Sale to IL with elbow injury

[harmony]

f*** the yankees

f*** yankees fans.

f*** their 27 championships of which maybe 1 or 2 are legitimate and dont have an * next to it.

so it's 9 vs 2 or 9 vs 27*....either way Red Sox Nation > Yankees Universe

f*** the 2019 over rated yankees. the are the WORST 100 win team in the history of baseball.

these are all FACTS and CANNOT be disputed.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/facts-vs-opinions-examples-games-activities.html

[notin]

f*** the yankees

f*** yankees fans.

f*** their 27 championships of which maybe 1 or 2 are legitimate and dont have an * next to it.

so it's 9 vs 2 or 9 vs 27*....either way Red Sox Nation > Yankees Universe

f*** the 2019 over rated yankees. the are the WORST 100 win team in the history of baseball.

these are all FACTS and CANNOT be disputed.

 

Let's just hope the WC team knocks them out. So root against Tampa, as the Yankees (12-5) have owned them this season. But Oakland (2-0) and Cleveland (4-3) have winning records against them...

[jacksonianmarch]

f*** the yankees

f*** yankees fans.

f*** their 27 championships of which maybe 1 or 2 are legitimate and dont have an * next to it.

so it's 9 vs 2 or 9 vs 27*....either way Red Sox Nation > Yankees Universe

f*** the 2019 over rated yankees. the are the WORST 100 win team in the history of baseball.

these are all FACTS and CANNOT be disputed.

 

You clearly have an issue with facts and opinions.

 

Also, Ortiz and Manny were juicing hard, so if you need an asterisk, you might as well hang one on 04, 07, and 13.

[oldtimer]

You clearly have an issue with facts and opinions.

 

Also, Ortiz and Manny were juicing hard, so if you need an asterisk, you might as well hang one on 04, 07, and 13.

 

That comment about Ortiz is untrue and sshould get you disqualified from the site. A-Rod was the big juicer and lair to boot.

[Kimmi]

Pitching win championships, I'm not so sure SP are the key anymore, but if Severino can come back with no more setbacks, we have a fighting chance, if you remember Severino was a beast the first 2-3 months of last year right after spring training, he's going thru the same process right now, the difference now is that all teams are running at full force and the batters are already in form. but I like our chances if they come back strong (big if). Betances will add to one of the best RP crews in the league, only going up from here.

I don't remember a team with so many injuries in recent memory, even less with a winning record, with the best record in the league??? no way. I feel like this is our year, not fully confident, but I'm getting there.

 

Your pitching will definitely by helped out by your bullpen, but I'm not sure if it will be enough.

 

As I said, I may very well end up eating my words, but I'm just not feeling it for the Yankees this year.

 

Maybe it's wishful thinking. Maybe not.

[Kimmi]

So far the Yankees have experienced an amazing season in the face of adversity.

 

To place the Yankee success into perspective, the current Red Sox record (67-60, .528) is closer to the current record (54-74, .422) of the lowly Seattle Mariners than to the current Yankee record (83-44, .654).

 

Not according to our man, Pythagoras.

[Kimmi]

We don't need ace form. We need a guy capable of going 4-5 innings and allowing 2 or less runs.

 

I don't think you will be successful with that much reliance on your bullpen.

[Kimmi]

The name of the game for the 2019 Yankees is depth. The injuries we have suffered are insane. But the depth is what has set us apart. Depth in the pen with Betances out. Depth in the rotation to some degree with German stepping in for Severino. And to a major degree, depth in the lineup.

 

Our projected healthy opening day lineup was

1. Hicks CF

2. Judge RF

3. Stanton DH

4. Sanchez C

5. Andujar 3B

6. Gregorius SS

7. Torres 2B

8. Voit 1B

9. Gardner LF

 

Hicks misses 6 weeks to start the year, comes back well then hits the shelf again with an arm issue

Judge misses 2 months with an oblique injury

Stanton has missed almost all season with a multitude of maladies

Sanchez has been on the DL twice with lower leg issues

Andujar is out for the season with a shoulder issue

Gregorius missed the first two months due to TJS

Torres missed a week with a core issue, but has avoided the DL

Voit missed time with a core issue, came back and has now been out a month with the same core issue

Gardner missed 2 weeks with a knee issue

 

We traded for EE, he is on the shelf with a broken wrist

Frazier spent two weeks on the shelf with an ankle issue

Maybin missed a month with a calf

Lemahieu missed a week with a groin

 

Crazy, and still we are on pace for well over 100 wins

 

I have always been a big fan of depth. It is often the case that the season doesn't come down to what your starting players do, but what the depth players can do when the starters inevitably spend some time on the DL.

[Kimmi]

I think your analysis will be proved correct. The Yankees had a real shot to win a championship this year, but Cashman blew it when he failed to upgrade the starting rotation. Maybe he would have acted if the Astros acquired Grienke 24 hours earlier, I don't know, but I do wonder if the timing of the Grienke trade (last minute) was part of the Astros strategy. As we all know, the Astros are an incredibly smart organization. Once the Astros acquired Grienke, and the Yankees were left with nothing, the contrast between the two organizations became very clear.

 

Sure, the Dodgers didn't do anything either, but the Dodgers were looking for bullpen pieces, not rotation help and the Dodgers believe that they have the young arms in the farm system who can help in the bullpen in October. I think they plan to move Maeda to the bullpen in October as well.

 

Want to have a good laugh? Project the Yankees starting rotation in October and then compare it to Verlander, Cole, and Grienke. Depending on who they play in the first round, the Yankees could be one and done in the playoffs. If the Yankees get lucky, maybe they make it to the ALCS, but the Astros will destroy them, similar to how the Red Sox totally destroyed the Yankees in the playoffs last year. There will be a lot of upset Yankees fans this October. Can't wait.

 

I was surprised that Cashman didn't add a quality starter during the preseason, and perhaps even more surprised when he didn't add one at the deadline. I have thought all along that starting pitching would be their downfall, and if not for German, they would be in much worse shape.

 

Anything can happen in the playoffs, so the Yankees might catch fire at the right time. But if I were a betting person, I'd bet on the Astros, the Dodgers, and the Guardians before the Yankees. Oddly enough, I'd bet on the Red Sox over the Yankees too, if we can manage to get there.

[Kimmi]

We need 4 innings from our starters

 

That proves that your rotation stinks.

 

Last year, you only needed 3 innings from your starters.

[Kimmi]

well Pythagorean will agree with me after game 162. so theres that.

 

The Yankees are not as good as they think they are.

[Kimmi]

It seems kind of weak to be taking pot shots at the Yankees, as we sit sixteen games behind them , fighting ( not very hard apparently) for our playoff lives . Is that all that is left of back to back to back to back ? Pretty weak .

 

It is never, never weak to take pot shots at the Yankees.

[moonslav59]

We are sixteen games behind them . Why ? Don't tell me it's because of our rotation. Their rotation is no better . If they have such glaring weaknesses, why can't we beat them ?

 

Because we suck.

 

Our starting pitchers suck, too.

 

Our pen sucks: theirs doesn't.

 

We come up short when we need it way more than them.

 

The Yanks have a clear weakness. It's not a big enough weakness (the rotation) to lose to the sucky Sox, but it will likely matter against Houston, LA and maybe others.

[dgalehouse]

It is never, never weak to take pot shots at the Yankees.

 

When you are 16 games behind them , it is kind of weak. If they have all these deficiencies, what does that say about us ?

[harmony]

Not according to our man, Pythagoras.

Valid point.

[Bellhorn04]

When you are 16 games behind them , it is kind of weak. If they have all these deficiencies, what does that say about us ?

 

The pot shots probably say that we're a little childish when it comes to being sports fans. But that's part of the appeal, isn't it? You get to be kind of a loud-mouthed schnook for a while. It's an escape from all the seriousness of our everyday lives.

[moonslav59]

When you are 16 games behind them , it is kind of weak. If they have all these deficiencies, what does that say about us ?

 

Who cares?

 

We suck, but it shouldn't stop us from being critical of others, especially our arch enemies.

 

I'm not sure what the issue is. Should we all go meek and mild, because we're having a down year or few years?

[dgalehouse]

Who cares?

 

We suck, but it shouldn't stop us from being critical of others, especially our arch enemies.

 

I'm not sure what the issue is. Should we all go meek and mild, because we're having a down year or few years?

I'm not going all meek and mild . I just think some of this comes across as sour grapes . Whatever . To each his own .

[moonslav59]

I'm not going all meek and mild . I just think some of this comes across as sour grapes . Whatever . To each his own .

 

Maybe part of it is sour grapes, at least to some, but that's understandable.

 

I'm not seeing a lot of unfounded criticism or "pot shots."

 

Yes, there's the usual Yankee hate statements and sentiments, but nothing out of the ordinary between fierce rivalries.

 

My placing the Yankees 3rd in odds of winning it all has nothing to do with them being the Yanks. I've always been high on having 2-3 great SP'ers. The Yanks have none (healthy).

 

 

 

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I really don't get ripping Brian Cashman.

 

I think he has done a great job. It was easy to call him out when the Yankees were the far and away payroll leaders, but he has been extremely good, especially recently. He's found several hidden talents around the league like Urshela, Voit, and Tauchmann, and acquired them all for basically nothing. (Although he did give up Giovanni Gallegos to get Voit.) Not every GM gets that many hidden gems in that short of a time frame.

 

Cashman does some things very well, no doubt about it. On the other hand, he is very fortunate to have the Yankees money and power behind him. It would be very interesting to see how he would do with the Oakland A's, for example.

 

While Cashman does some things very well, many critics have called him out on his inability to adequately evaluate starting pitchers. This goes back at least as far as J.Vazquez and continues to the present day with his weird handling of the S.Gray situation, his failure to sign Corbin, his decision to pay Happ 17m per year, and, among other questionable moves, his failure to improve the Yankees starting rotation at the trade deadline.

 

This year, in particular, there is an exclamation point behind such criticism because the Yankees are locked into the playoffs but need help in the starting rotation and Cashman couldn't get it figured out.

Edited August 23, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[a700hitter]

I'm not going all meek and mild . I just think some of this comes across as sour grapes . Whatever . To each his own .

Hating the Yankees is sour grapes? I only regret that the last 3 years when we were above them in the standings that I didn't rub their faces in it more.

[jacksonianmarch]

Hating the Yankees is sour grapes? I only regret that the last 3 years when we were above them in the standings that I didn't rub their faces in it more.

 

You guys got sped up quick with DD entering the fray, while we were still rebuilding. I knew our time was coming. The worst is when we are at our peak and you guys beat us. That was 04

[Slasher9]

You clearly have an issue with facts and opinions.

 

Also, Ortiz and Manny were juicing hard, so if you need an asterisk, you might as well hang one on 04, 07, and 13.

 

You, sir, fall under the yankee fan sentence....

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I really don't get ripping Brian Cashman.

 

To gain a better understanding, this might be worth reading:

https://nypost.com/2019/07/31/brian-cashmans-pitching-trade-history-has-its-share-of-disasters/

 

The article reviews some of Cashman's trade deadline deals, but it is worth noting that many of his offseason SP acquisitions have been called out, too.

 

And sometimes a GM can blow it by failing to act. For example, the Astros acquired Verlander while Cashman was twiddling his thumbs. The Red Sox acquired Eavoladi last year at around the same time the Yankees acquired Z.Britton. I think the 2019 trade deadline will be remembered as another example of Cashman's failure to acquire an SP that could help the Yankees win a championship.

[FredLynn]

When you are 16 games behind them , it is kind of weak. If they have all these deficiencies, what does that say about us ?

 

It is ALWAYS considered good form to bash the Yankees in any way you see fit. However, if you choose not to do so, the rest of us will have to make up for the shots you fail to take at them.

[harmony]

It is ALWAYS considered good form to bash the Yankees in any way you see fit. However, if you choose not to do so, the rest of us will have to make up for the shots you fail to take at them.

Should a Red Sox fan be happy or disappointed that the Athletics beat the Yankees to remain seven games up on the Sox in the Wild Card race?

 

The Rays won as well to move past the Guardians into the second Wild Card slot seven games ahead of the Red Sox.

Edited August 23, 2019 by harmony

[notin]

You clearly have an issue with facts and opinions.

 

Also, Ortiz and Manny were juicing hard, so if you need an asterisk, you might as well hang one on 04, 07, and 13.

 

If only they were clean like the Yankees...

[jacksonianmarch]

If only they were clean like the Yankees...

 

Every team was juicing. I’m debating the point that all but two of the Yankees titles were legitimate.

[notin]

Every team was juicing. I’m debating the point that all but two of the Yankees titles were legitimate.

 

Which he said about them why?

[mvp 78]

Jeter did the most roids.