What are the chances of Porcello being offered a contract extension?

[moonslav59]

Another big issue with the MLB is you have the best player in the game playing in anaheim on a continually non competitive team in the Pacific time zone

 

...as long as he's not on the Yanks, all is good!

 

[Kimmi]

I don’t give a flying f*** about PED use.

 

It makes me sick when I see or saw someone like ARod hitting a game winning HR, or any HR against us. What goes through my mind is, freaking, cheating PED user.

 

So yes, it bothers me.

[Kimmi]

It was always kind of hypocritical, or at least naive , to think other teams were using steroids while the Sox were squeaky clean. Usage was very wide spread. I don't mind giving a pass to Chavis , who does seem like a good kid , for a youthful mistake . Just don't let it happen again. Wright is another story. If you are a lowlife, being able to get hitters out with your knuckleball does not make you less of a lowlife. I do not like to see him pitching for the Red Sox .

 

I do not think that the Sox were squeaky clean during the steroid era.

[S5Dewey]

It makes me sick when I see or saw someone like ARod hitting a game winning HR, or any HR against us. What goes through my mind is, freaking, cheating PED user.

 

So yes, it bothers me.

 

Yes. Of all the things we agree on this is at the top of the list. Which is why I'm still not completely comfortable with Chavis. The big difference is that Chavis did it as a kid, trying to make it into the bigs while ARod was just plain cheating his peers.

[Kimmi]

Yes. Of all the things we agree on this is at the top of the list. Which is why I'm still not completely comfortable with Chavis. The big difference is that Chavis did it as a kid, trying to make it into the bigs while ARod was just plain cheating his peers.

 

I am also not completely comfortable with Chavis. I can agree with the fact that he was a young kid who made a mistake and paid for it, and hope he never does it again.

 

OTOH, did PEDs help him get to and stick in the majors faster? If so, what kind of message does that send to kids? Cheating gets you to the majors faster? I don't know.

[TylerD]

I did steroids once. Made me sick to my stomach. Now I don’t do them.

[mvp 78]

Don’t start bitching about the hot weather. People in the NE are not going to cry for you. LOL!

 

Loving the hot weather. Just not moved into the new house yet. Stuck in limbo at a friend’s house for now.

[a700hitter]

Loving the hot weather. Just not moved into the new house yet. Stuck in limbo at a friend’s house for now.

That can end a friendship if you are not careful.

[TylerD]

That can end a friendship if you are not careful.

 

Yup. Moved in with my girlfriend. I think she loves me a little less now lol. In fairness I’m a pain in the ass.

[notin]

Yes. Of all the things we agree on this is at the top of the list. Which is why I'm still not completely comfortable with Chavis. The big difference is that Chavis did it as a kid, trying to make it into the bigs while ARod was just plain cheating his peers.

 

To be honest, I think Chavis becomes the less excusable of the two.

 

If it helped Chavis get to the majors faster, that’s exactly the wrong message to send to young players today dreaming of a big chance.

 

A-Rod? He was already a big leaguer (as far as we know) when he started. Yes he cheated at baseball. But at the end of the day, if that’s the worst thing he ever did, is it really so bad? He’s not exactly conning seniors or killing puppies...

[TylerD]

I want Bieber. Saw him in the All Star game. I like him. Don’t know what his contract is don’t care. Get him.

[notin]

I want Bieber. Saw him in the All Star game. I like him. Don’t know what his contract is don’t care. Get him.

 

He’s pre-arb.

 

Would you trade Benintendi for him?

[moonslav59]

He’s pre-arb.

 

Would you trade Benintendi for him?

 

Offer Beni, Johnson & Thornburg (salary dump).

[TylerD]

Offer Beni, Johnson & Thornburg (salary dump).

 

This!

[notin]

Offer Beni, Johnson & Thornburg (salary dump).

 

While dumping salary of a player about to be released doesn't save much, the Sox would need a LF. I don't like Sam Travis much in that role.

[Slasher9]

If they stick with this supercharged Baseball the stats in baseball will have no historic comparative legitimacy. Part of the greatness of baseball is its history and comparing players across generations. This baseball is producing stats that can’t be compared to stats of just 10 years ago. And I don’t think that it is increasing interest in the game.

 

A number of things have reduced the enduring and future popularity of the game and most of them involve the economics of the game.

 

First and foremost is that there are almost no Day games and no Day World Series games. In the pursuit of advertising dollars they have sacrificed generations of kids who are safely sleeping in bed before games get to the 5th inning.

 

Another problem is that kids in many cities and states are never able to develop an attachment to players because they leave in FA as soon as they become stars. Kids feel abandoned when that happens and it sours them on the game.

 

The games have become intolerably long and a attention spans are too short.

 

Obviously, ticket prices are too high for kids to go to a game with their allowance money and they have to starve if they get in, because you can’t bring in food or drinks and the food costs as much as the ticket.

 

These are major problems that will affect the future popularity of the game.

 

This is not going to be fixed by a juiced baseball or by playing in Europe or Japan or anywhere else.

 

Great post

[moonslav59]

While dumping salary of a player about to be released doesn't save much, the Sox would need a LF. I don't like Sam Travis much in that role.

 

LF'ers are a dime a dozen. We could trade Shawaryn for one tomorrow, beside Holt, JD, Moreland and Pearce can play LF...maybe even Nunez, Vaz or Lin.

 

Bieber's addition would outweigh the loss in LF, IMO.

[jacksonianmarch]

You guys keep touting Beni like he’s got insane trade value. He’s a corner OFer for starters, so he plays a premium offensive position. Beni has been handled and has played like a player with something the matter. He’s not quick on the ball inside like he had been and he looks really slow in the OF. His defensive metrics which were positive last year, are slightly negative this year. His K rate has jumped nearly 7% and the added K’s haven’t brought him any added power. As a matter of fact, his IsoP has dropped and his BABIP has risen in a worse season (meaning he should actually be worse than what you’re seeing). He’s a reclamation type trade candidate, not a headliner. If the Sox deal him now, he’s gonna return 50 cents on the dollar, especially since he becomes more expensive starting next year. With arbitration taking into account the last two seasons, his 2018 will buoy his arb value and cause his first year take home to be in the $5 mil range. Now, having him on a series of 1 yr deals for three years will be of benefit, the receiving team will only have the rest of 2019 to enjoy pre arb pay levels.

[jacksonianmarch]

I’m not saying he has no value, just he’s on the down slope and is about to get pricey. Your best bet is to hang onto him.

[notin]

LF'ers are a dime a dozen. We could trade Shawaryn for one tomorrow, beside Holt, JD, Moreland and Pearce can play LF...maybe even Nunez, Vaz or Lin.

 

Bieber's addition would outweigh the loss in LF, IMO.

 

If trading Benintendi opens the door to more playing time for Holt (who is still in the 2b picture), Pearce, Lin, or Nunez, that’s a reason NOT to do it. And the notion of putting Martinez in the OF regularly when he isn’t 100% isn’t convincing me otherwise either.

 

I actually could see Chavis heading out there if/when Moreland returns for us annual second half fade. But that might be their best internal option...

[notin]

You guys keep touting Beni like he’s got insane trade value. He’s a corner OFer for starters, so he plays a premium offensive position. Beni has been handled and has played like a player with something the matter. He’s not quick on the ball inside like he had been and he looks really slow in the OF. His defensive metrics which were positive last year, are slightly negative this year. His K rate has jumped nearly 7% and the added K’s haven’t brought him any added power. As a matter of fact, his IsoP has dropped and his BABIP has risen in a worse season (meaning he should actually be worse than what you’re seeing). He’s a reclamation type trade candidate, not a headliner. If the Sox deal him now, he’s gonna return 50 cents on the dollar, especially since he becomes more expensive starting next year. With arbitration taking into account the last two seasons, his 2018 will buoy his arb value and cause his first year take home to be in the $5 mil range. Now, having him on a series of 1 yr deals for three years will be of benefit, the receiving team will only have the rest of 2019 to enjoy pre arb pay levels.

 

Well we do have one website that disagrees on your opinion of his trade value...

[jacksonianmarch]

Meh on any website looking at value. Any website that says you can trade pedroia has no merit.

 

Beni has good value. He just doesn’t have elite value. Last season should have been a springboard, instead it’s looking like a career season. You guys seem to love to want to deal guys when they’re fading and then won’t deal guys when their value is high.

[notin]

Meh on any website looking at value. Any website that says you can trade pedroia has no merit.

 

Beni has good value. He just doesn’t have elite value. Last season should have been a springboard, instead it’s looking like a career season. You guys seem to love to want to deal guys when they’re fading and then won’t deal guys when their value is high.

 

Pedroia’s value is at -30 on that website. That’s pretty untradable except for other negative value salary dumps.

 

That site set Benintendi’s value at 58. I didn’t set it that high. I opted for a neutral third party evaluation.

 

Funny thing about that site. I checked on Encarnacion vs. Then. Both players came in with a value of 0.9...

[jacksonianmarch]

Pedroia’s value is at -30 on that website. That’s pretty untradable except for other negative value salary dumps.

 

That site set Benintendi’s value at 58. I didn’t set it that high. I opted for a neutral third party evaluation.

 

Funny thing about that site. I checked on Encarnacion vs. Then. Both players came in with a value of 0.9...

 

Then isn’t a nobody. And getting half a season of Encarnacion for $3.5 mil isn’t something to shake a stick at.

[notin]

Then isn’t a nobody. And getting half a season of Encarnacion for $3.5 mil isn’t something to shake a stick at.

 

I thought it might have added some credibility to their values as well as that trade...

[jacksonianmarch]

My question for the “simulator” is if they can assign financials to the deal. Then for Encarnacion straight up isn’t a great deal, but Then for Encarnacion At $3.5 mil for 90 games is far more shaded the Yanks way

[notin]

My question for the “simulator” is if they can assign financials to the deal. Then for Encarnacion straight up isn’t a great deal, but Then for Encarnacion At $3.5 mil for 90 games is far more shaded the Yanks way

 

It can. Check it out. It’s fairly thorough as far as websites go...

[mvp 78]

That can end a friendship if you are not careful.

 

She’s out of town until November.

[mvp 78]

Yup. Moved in with my girlfriend. I think she loves me a little less now lol. In fairness I’m a pain in the ass.

 

Change more diapers.

[TylerD]

Change more diapers.

 

Pee diapers are not problem..... the poop ones.... I throw up every time, but I'm getting better..... sort of.