What are the chances of Porcello being offered a contract extension?

[a700hitter]

I am one of Porcello's biggest supporters and defenders. I would not offer him more than three years.

He's still fairly young. If you are alright with his prior contract, you should be okay with another 3 years. He will be the same pitcher. He doesn't rely on overpowering hitters and durability has been his strong suit He had one DL stint that was more of a phantom DL situation as he was stinking up the joint and spiraling down the drain at the time.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Is 3 at 50 reasonable ? Incentives to say 62 ?

[Bellhorn04]

Is 3 at 50 reasonable ? Incentives to say 62 ?

 

It's reasonable. I just don't think there's room in the budget.

[notin]

I wouldn't, just because of his current age.

 

I was all over his first deal with us.

 

I would argue his current age is one of the better reasons TO sign him. He’s only 30...

[jung]

It's reasonable. I just don't think there's room in the budget.

 

It is reasonable but I think Rick makes north of $21M now on a 3 year deal. Will he take 3 years at a reduction in a contract that makes it up in incentives? This IMO is the dilemma MLB is creating for the Franchises with this loony rocket ship baseball:

- Is MLB done fooling with rocket ships for baseballs or are they going to continue to modify the ball to promote this game of fly balls just going and going and going

- I think they have already now gone too far but I would have said that before this year!

- how are Franchises to value pitching and pitchers under these circumstances?

- If it were me valuing pitchers, I would only really value the big "K" numbers pitchers in the game and everybody else could pound sand

 

Why would you pay big money for a Pitcher unless he at least holds the potential to K everybody when every Tom, Dick and Larry fly ball just keeps going and going and going. We do realize that the baseball they use in the Home Run Derby is NOT an official MLB baseball but is even more of a rocket ship than what is used in the regular season.....RIGHT. So they can take this even farther if they want.

Edited May 4, 2019 by jung

[Kimmi]

Ya that's fair. Regardless I hope they sign him back even if it's for just a couple years.

 

I am with you on that. I would love to have Porcello back.

 

Porcello fans unite!

[Kimmi]

He's still fairly young. If you are alright with his prior contract, you should be okay with another 3 years. He will be the same pitcher. He doesn't rely on overpowering hitters and durability has been his strong suit He had one DL stint that was more of a phantom DL situation as he was stinking up the joint and spiraling down the drain at the time.

 

I would be okay with a 3 year deal, though my preference would be 2 years. I would not offer him more than 3 years.

 

There's a big difference between giving a 26 year old pitcher a 4 year deal and giving a 30 year old pitcher a 4 year deal.

[Kimmi]

I would argue his current age is one of the better reasons TO sign him. He’s only 30...

 

I disagree with the 'only 30' argument. He is likely past his peak and in decline.

 

No long term contracts for 30+ pitchers.

[devildavid]

I disagree with the 'only 30' argument. He is likely past his peak and in decline.

 

No long term contracts for 30+ pitchers.

 

30 is old for a pitcher. I hate to point it out, but look at Sale. He turns 30 and has his worst start to a season.

 

And I was never a big Porcello supporter. He has always been an eminently hittable pitcher. However, I think he has done a good job for the Sox. So I agree with you about no deal more than three years.

[TylerD]

I am with you on that. I would love to have Porcello back.

 

Porcello fans unite!

 

We should create a picket line with signs saying “sign Porcello “ lol! And then rage if they don’t. But I think they will. Hopefully.

[TylerD]

Sign this man. This should have been a damn win tonight. That is all.

[notin]

Would fans like to see Porcello extended if it means non-tendering Bradley?

[TylerD]

Would fans like to see Porcello extended if it means non-tendering Bradley?

Hmmmm. I dunno.

I plead the 5th.

[Bellhorn04]

Would fans like to see Porcello extended if it means non-tendering Bradley?

 

I'd *probably* do that.

[jacksonianmarch]

I’d be wary of signing Porcello long term. Yes, he’s young, but he’s got a ton of miles on his arm. He’s got almost 400 more innings on his arm in the bigs than Sale. The guys who get big workloads early break down earlier too. See Felix, King

 

Put this initially in another thread, sorry

[Bellhorn04]

I’d be wary of signing Porcello long term. Yes, he’s young, but he’s got a ton of miles on his arm. He’s got almost 400 more innings on his arm in the bigs than Sale. The guys who get big workloads early break down earlier too. See Felix, King

 

Put this initially in another thread, sorry

 

I don't think anyone wants to sign him for more than 3 years.

 

With regard to the durability aspect, he might be one of those physical freaks who just doesn't break down like most guys do.

[TylerD]

I’d be wary of signing Porcello long term. Yes, he’s young, but he’s got a ton of miles on his arm. He’s got almost 400 more innings on his arm in the bigs than Sale. The guys who get big workloads early break down earlier too. See Felix, King

 

Put this initially in another thread, sorry

 

He’s showing no sins of slowing down. I agree maybe not long term but sign him for two or three years.

[Kimmi]

Sign this man. This should have been a damn win tonight. That is all.

 

IMO, Porcello is one of the most underappreciated starting pitchers.

 

And this opinion has nothing to do with his most recent outings.

[TylerD]

IMO, Porcello is one of the most underappreciated starting pitchers.

 

And this opinion has nothing to do with his most recent outings.

Agreed Kimmi. I think he’s a pitcher that if we let walk could bite us. Not saying we won’t find a 3rd man in the rotation. But finding a 3rd pitcher that 9 out of 10 times will give you 6 plus innings, wants to play for your team and may take a discount is very very rare. We still don’t know the price obviously, however if the price is right I just don’t see how the organization could pass it up. Nobody will convince me that it’s the right choice to pass up on Porcello ever.

[notin]

Agreed Kimmi. I think he’s a pitcher that if we let walk could bite us. Not saying we won’t find a 3rd man in the rotation. But finding a 3rd pitcher that 9 out of 10 times will give you 6 plus innings, wants to play for your team and may take a discount is very very rare. We still don’t know the price obviously, however if the price is right I just don’t see how the organization could pass it up. Nobody will convince me that it’s the right choice to pass up on Porcello ever.

 

 

It won’t be easy at all to replace Porcello, who is still only 30 years old despite his long career.

 

The big factor will be the money and years he is loooking for. And then if the Sox can fit him into the budget. What really hurts is that the Sox don’t have much in the way of minimum wage replacements on the horizon forcing there way on to the roster and freeing up resources.

 

It might come down to re-signing Porcello vs tendering Bradley. Bradley is not making that as difficult as the Sox would like...

[moonslav59]

With Keuchel still unsigned, who knows what the market will be next winter for someone like Porcello.

 

I'd love to have him back, but I think the price and years will both be too high.

[TylerD]

It won’t be easy at all to replace Porcello, who is still only 30 years old despite his long career.

 

The big factor will be the money and years he is loooking for. And then if the Sox can fit him into the budget. What really hurts is that the Sox don’t have much in the way of minimum wage replacements on the horizon forcing there way on to the roster and freeing up resources.

 

It might come down to re-signing Porcello vs tendering Bradley. Bradley is not making that as difficult as the Sox would like...

 

Well said!

[TylerD]

With Keuchel still unsigned, who knows what the market will be next winter for someone like Porcello.

 

I'd love to have him back, but I think the price and years will both be too high.

 

I haven’t paid much attention on the price for Keuchel. Any speculation on what he would ask for?

[Kimmi]

Agreed Kimmi. I think he’s a pitcher that if we let walk could bite us. Not saying we won’t find a 3rd man in the rotation. But finding a 3rd pitcher that 9 out of 10 times will give you 6 plus innings, wants to play for your team and may take a discount is very very rare. We still don’t know the price obviously, however if the price is right I just don’t see how the organization could pass it up. Nobody will convince me that it’s the right choice to pass up on Porcello ever.

 

I would try my best to re-sign him for a relatively short term deal. Don't know if that will be possible, but I certainly wouldn't overlook trying to keep him.

 

I may be wrong, but he strikes me as someone who is not all about taking the biggest contract.

[TylerD]

Remember that time Porcello delivered us 6 innings once again and was solid.

[Station 13]

Remember that time Porcello delivered us 6 innings once again and was solid.

 

You can count on him to take his turn in the rotation. Very underrated and under appreciated at times. We have so many broken starters over the years and Porcello has made 30+ starts every year.

[TylerD]

You can count on him to take his turn in the rotation. Very underrated and under appreciated at times. We have so many broken starters over the years and Porcello has made 30+ starts every year.

 

Well said! The man will definitely be missed if he leaves.

[notin]

Porcello’s return will be 100% dependent on his asking price and years.

 

While he has said he wants to return to Boston, they all say that until free agency. Dombrowski did draft him out of high school and stick him in the MLB rotation 2 years later. But also traded him away to Boston (in a deal that sent one of the most durable players in MLB for one of the least).

 

It’s going to come down to finding money. If JDM opts out, the Sox probably save a little bit there (since they’re very likely to bring JDM back at a lower AAV), but the Sox don’t have any major deals coming off the books except for the long-departed Pablo Sandoval.

[TylerD]

Porcello’s return will be 100% dependent on his asking price and years.

 

While he has said he wants to return to Boston, they all say that until free agency. Dombrowski did draft him out of high school and stick him in the MLB rotation 2 years later. But also traded him away to Boston (in a deal that sent one of the most durable players in MLB for one of the least).

 

It’s going to come down to finding money. If JDM opts out, the Sox probably save a little bit there (since they’re very likely to bring JDM back at a lower AAV), but the Sox don’t have any major deals coming off the books except for the long-departed Pablo Sandoval.

 

Makes sense! I agree.

 

I really wish we knew ballpark what Porcello asked for as a “discount” Eventually the figures will come to light I’m sure.

[moonslav59]

I doubt Porcello comes back, even if we lose JD to the option & free agency.