What are the chances of Porcello being offered a contract extension?

[TylerD]

From post #121 in this thread. Sorry, I undershot. Sainthood is at least a step below "a god".

"Porcello was a god tonight. That is all."

 

I am not religious what so ever (nothing against those that are) was just using a word to explain how good Porcello was.... Instead of god.... You may insert "fantastic, great, amazing, unreal, unbelievable, incredible, big dick rick, Oakland's daddy" Whatever you want.... My point was he was very very good. That is all. Let's move on.

[notin]

St. Biggus Dickus of Boston

 

 

And his wife, Incontinentia Buttocks...

[mvp 78]

And his wife, Incontinentia Buttocks...

 

I know I swore to use Gen Z humor today, but I just couldn't help myself.

[Swiharts Ghost]

What a start last night!!!! Stuff is glaring .The subject deserves some love .Porcello seems like extension candidate and the man loves pitching for Boston.

[TylerD]

What a start last night!!!! Stuff is glaring .The subject deserves some love .Porcello seems like extension candidate and the man loves pitching for Boston.

 

Amen!!!!!!!

[jung]

Amen!!!!!!!

 

Did we not notice that the very next night a cadre of Sox RH relief pitchers with Vaz catching did precisely the same job, dominating that lineup, on the road in our park that Rick had done the previous night with Sandy catching? Perhaps they are gods. Perhaps they are the best RH relief pitchers in baseball or more likely, that A's lineup did not stand a chance against even passible never mind decent RH pitching. Val gave up a run...and then NOTHING through the rest of the RH relief pitchers till Thorny in the 9th who does not count. He is flat awful. He does not even meet the "passable" standard.

[notin]

What a start last night!!!! Stuff is glaring .The subject deserves some love .Porcello seems like extension candidate and the man loves pitching for Boston.

 

Dombrowski drafted Porcello and is very likely a fan, although he did trade him to Boston.

 

But the big issue with a Porcello extension is cash. As the Sox have already commmitted about $100mill to Price, Sale, Bogaerts, and Martinez, and the ever-looming Betts’ contract figures to top all of them, there might not be room in the budget for Porcello...

[Bellhorn04]

Did we not notice that the very next night a cadre of Sox RH relief pitchers with Vaz catching did precisely the same job, dominating that lineup, on the road in our park that Rick had done the previous night with Sandy catching? Perhaps they are gods. Perhaps they are the best RH relief pitchers in baseball or more likely, that A's lineup did not stand a chance against even passible never mind decent RH pitching. Val gave up a run...and then NOTHING through the rest of the RH relief pitchers till Thorny in the 9th who does not count. He is flat awful. He does not even meet the "passable" standard.

 

Porcello's performance on Tuesday night does not go down as one of the great pitching gems in history. You're right that the A's are a mediocre offensive team at best.

 

But 8 innings of shutout ball with 4 baserunners allowed is impressive nonetheless. I would hazard a guess that there haven't been many 8 inning shutouts in all of MLB this year.

[Bellhorn04]

Dombrowski drafted Porcello and is very likely a fan, although he did trade him to Boston.

 

But the big issue with a Porcello extension is cash. As the Sox have already commmitted about $100mill to Price, Sale, Bogaerts, and Martinez, and the ever-looming Betts’ contract figures to top all of them, there might not be room in the budget for Porcello...

 

Yep. Not enough slices of pie to go around.

[notin]

Porcello's performance on Tuesday night does not go down as one of the great pitching gems in history. You're right that the A's are a mediocre offensive team at best.

 

But 8 innings of shutout ball with 4 baserunners allowed is impressive nonetheless. I would hazard a guess that there haven't been many 8 inning shutouts in all of MLB this year.

 

 

In spite of the fact that the A’s have probably faced numerous RHP on the road...

[jung]

Porcello's performance on Tuesday night does not go down as one of the great pitching gems in history. You're right that the A's are a mediocre offensive team at best.

 

But 8 innings of shutout ball with 4 baserunners allowed is impressive nonetheless. I would hazard a guess that there haven't been many 8 inning shutouts in all of MLB this year.

 

You can't possibly be serious. Even suggesting that "it might" is pretty preposterous given the long and storied history of pitching in baseball.

 

Walter Johnson himself has 110 9 inning shutouts.

Edited May 2, 2019 by jung

[notin]

You can't possibly be serious. Even suggesting that "it might" is pretty preposterous given the long and storied history of pitching in baseball.

 

Re-read the post. He says does not...

[Bellhorn04]

You can't possibly be serious. Even suggesting that "it might" is pretty preposterous given the long and storied history of pitching in baseball.

 

Walter Johnson himself has 110 9 inning shutouts.

 

Nice reading comprehension!

[mvp 78]

You can't possibly be serious. Even suggesting that "it might" is pretty preposterous given the long and storied history of pitching in baseball.

 

Walter Johnson himself has 110 9 inning shutouts.

 

OMG dude. Invoking the name of Walter Johnson in the year of our lord 2019.

[cp176]

Porcello's performance on Tuesday night does not go down as one of the great pitching gems in history. You're right that the A's are a mediocre offensive team at best.

 

But 8 innings of shutout ball with 4 baserunners allowed is impressive nonetheless. I would hazard a guess that there haven't been many 8 inning shutouts in all of MLB this year.

 

Porcello is what many of us have said he is - a durable middle of the rotation pitcher. It was great to see him perform the way he did the other night.

[notin]

OMG dude. Invoking the name of Walter Johnson in the year of our lord 2019.

 

 

It’s ok. He was genuflecting as he typed it...

[Slasher9]

OMG dude. Invoking the name of Walter Johnson in the year of our lord 2019.

 

for us flat earthers its the year potato.

[TylerD]

Did we not notice that the very next night a cadre of Sox RH relief pitchers with Vaz catching did precisely the same job, dominating that lineup, on the road in our park that Rick had done the previous night with Sandy catching? Perhaps they are gods. Perhaps they are the best RH relief pitchers in baseball or more likely, that A's lineup did not stand a chance against even passible never mind decent RH pitching. Val gave up a run...and then NOTHING through the rest of the RH relief pitchers till Thorny in the 9th who does not count. He is flat awful. He does not even meet the "passable" standard.

 

20 innings in his last 3 starts with 5 runs..... and against Detroit 3 of those runs came in one inning and then he settled right down and was pretty damn good the rest of the way. Another one of those starts was against Tampa Bay who granted is not a super powerful offense, they are still a very good team and atop our division. He gave us a chance to win that game and we did. He was absolutely fantastic against Oakland in which you say that isn't that impressive because Oaklands lineup sucks (even though they are ranked in the top 10 in offense)

 

Once again, let Porcello walk when he could be giving us a discount to keep him. Who the hell would you rather start in the 3rd spot of the rotation over Porcello? Porcello has easily proven he is a good 3rd guy in the rotation, and when he catches fire he is even better than that. Just accept the fact that Porcello is staying in Boston!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOO

[Hitch]

For the right price we absolutely should keep him. I don't think the right price will be Rick's price however, no matter the talk of discounts.

[jung]

20 innings in his last 3 starts with 5 runs..... and against Detroit 3 of those runs came in one inning and then he settled right down and was pretty damn good the rest of the way. Another one of those starts was against Tampa Bay who granted is not a super powerful offense, they are still a very good team and atop our division. He gave us a chance to win that game and we did. He was absolutely fantastic against Oakland in which you say that isn't that impressive because Oaklands lineup sucks (even though they are ranked in the top 10 in offense)

 

Once again, let Porcello walk when he could be giving us a discount to keep him. Who the hell would you rather start in the 3rd spot of the rotation over Porcello? Porcello has easily proven he is a good 3rd guy in the rotation, and when he catches fire he is even better than that. Just accept the fact that Porcello is staying in Boston!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOO

 

Gee I don't remember wanting to trade him. I remember calling him the most consistent starter we have and essentially the backbone of this rotation and repeating it right during his period of sucking ass while they were all sucking ass.

 

The point is that there is really nothing we could have learned nor should have learned from Rick's recent start against the A's, not that he is some glorified second coming nor that Sandy is either. What we learned AND confirmed in last night's game is that the A's are horribly limited in their lineup configurations v RH pitching at the moment and will likely continue to be until Olsen comes back and may still be until the other LH bat they are missing comes back. All we really learned is how easy it is to dominate their RH hitting lineup with RH pithing of ANY MERIT WHATSOEVER especially on the road.

[TylerD]

Gee I don't remember wanting to trade him. I remember calling him the most consistent starter we have and essentially the backbone of this rotation and repeating it right during his period of sucking ass while they were all sucking ass.

 

The point is that there is really nothing we could have learned nor should have learned from Rick's recent start against the A's, not that he is some glorified second coming nor that Sandy is either. What we learned AND confirmed in last night's game is that the A's are horribly limited in their lineup configurations v RH pitching at the moment and will likely continue to be until Olsen comes back and may still be until the other LH bat they are missing comes back. All we really learned is how easy it is to dominate their RH hitting lineup with RH pithing of ANY MERIT WHATSOEVER especially on the road.

 

Fair point, I missed that. My thing is.... If you take away his first 2 horrible starts to the season he has an era somehwere around 2.75 in his last 4 starts. Unfortunately with Porcello I think we can all agree he won't go back to his Cy Young year (if he did he would be our ace) but he will always be a very solid 3rd spot guy in my opinion.

[redsoxrules]

Dont get too excited from his recent stretch. Seen this too many from him. You think hes about to turn a corner and pitch like his cy young year and then he stinks for a few starts. Hes inconsistent.

Hes not worth no more than 3 year at 45.

[TylerD]

Dont get too excited from his recent stretch. Seen this too many from him. You think hes about to turn a corner and pitch like his cy young year and then he stinks for a few starts. Hes inconsistent.

Hes not worth no more than 3 year at 45.

 

Unfortunately a lot of 3rd or 4th guys in the rotation are like that. But I think Porcello has more good games than bad games by far.

[Kimmi]

Porcello's performance on Tuesday night does not go down as one of the great pitching gems in history. You're right that the A's are a mediocre offensive team at best.

 

But 8 innings of shutout ball with 4 baserunners allowed is impressive nonetheless. I would hazard a guess that there haven't been many 8 inning shutouts in all of MLB this year.

 

Just the mere fact that Porcello pitched 8 innings is big accomplishment that goes highly unappreciated, never mind that is was a shutout 8 innings.

 

Our bullpen has been used a lot from our starters being knocked out early. He allowed the pen some valuable rest, which it turned out, came in handy the following night.

[Kimmi]

Dont get too excited from his recent stretch. Seen this too many from him. You think hes about to turn a corner and pitch like his cy young year and then he stinks for a few starts. Hes inconsistent.

Hes not worth no more than 3 year at 45.

 

I am one of Porcello's biggest supporters and defenders. I would not offer him more than three years.

[TylerD]

I am one of Porcello's biggest supporters and defenders. I would not offer him more than three years.

 

I would!!!!!!!

 

He’s staying in Boston people whether some like it or not

[jung]

I would!!!!!!!

 

He’s staying in Boston people whether some like it or not

 

Not sure I would hand Rick more than three years at this point. Do we not see how this year's rocket ship baseball is flying? I am not sure that it will make sense to hand a Rick Porcello the kind of money he might be able to demand in what might the last year of giving pitchers other than the very best of them big money. If we are going to continue to promote a game that includes virtually every piece of s*** fly ball just going and going and going, I am not sure it will make much sense to pay anybody other than the top "K" pitchers in baseball big money. Rick is the Steady Eddy of this staff. He has been the backbone IMO. He has actually been the guy that has stopped the crazy for this team when they needed a start that stopped the crazy. Sale has been great in Boston. But in the rare occasions when Sale blows up, its pretty nuclear.

 

I would have said that last year's baseball was as much of a rocket ship as MLB would try to run past us. Obviously I was wrong! If we don't think this will have an impact on the perception of pitchers and pitching in MLB, I just would not even know what to say to that. At any rate I would be reluctant to give any Starter along the lines of a Porcello more than 3 years till we are able to see where the f*** MLB thinks it is going to take this. As I said, they are way past where I think they would dare to go with rocket ship baseballs already.

[TylerD]

Not sure I would hand Rick more than three years at this point. Do we not see how this year's rocket ship baseball is flying? I am not sure that it will make sense to hand a Rick Porcello the kind of money he might be able to demand in what might the last year of giving pitchers other than the very best of them big money. If we are going to continue to promote a game that includes virtually every piece of s*** fly ball just going and going and going, I am not sure it will make much sense to pay anybody other than the top "K" pitchers in baseball big money. Rick is the Steady Eddy of this staff. He has been the backbone IMO. He has actually been the guy that has stopped the crazy for this team when they needed a start that stopped the crazy. Sale has been great in Boston. But in the rare occasions when Sale blows up, its pretty nuclear.

 

I would have said that last year's baseball was as much of a rocket ship as MLB would try to run past us. Obviously I was wrong! If we don't think this will have an impact on the perception of pitchers and pitching in MLB, I just would not even know what to say to that. At any rate I would be reluctant to give any Starter along the lines of a Porcello more than 3 years till we are able to see where the f*** MLB thinks it is going to take this. As I said, they are way past where I think they would dare to go with rocket ship baseballs already.

 

I guess it remains to be seen what pitches we could possibly get and what price.

[Kimmi]

I would!!!!!!!

 

He’s staying in Boston people whether some like it or not

 

I wouldn't, just because of his current age.

 

I was all over his first deal with us.

[TylerD]

I wouldn't, just because of his current age.

 

I was all over his first deal with us.

 

Ya that's fair. Regardless I hope they sign him back even if it's for just a couple years.