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No Sale in those three days, right?

 

We shouldn't miss Sandy that much.

 

I'm looking for JBJ to wake up the echoes this series.

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@OverTheMonster

 

Sandy León placed on paternity leave with Óscar Hernández getting called up and Chandler Shepherd being DFA’d

 

Note how fast Sandy Leon jumps ship as soon as his bat was warming up a little to help Mama deliver the baby. What can Sandy do, block the kid from falling off the bed ? Oscar will show us new meaning to light hitting catcher.

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Note how fast Sandy Leon jumps ship as soon as his bat was warming up a little to help Mama deliver the baby. What can Sandy do, block the kid from falling off the bed ?

 

Yeah, these paternity leaves are pretty damn questionable. And you'd think ballplayers and their partners could time things to have their kids in the offseason. :cool:

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Yeah, these paternity leaves are pretty damn questionable. And you'd think ballplayers and their partners could time things to have their kids in the offseason. :cool:

 

Yeah, you would think the analytic staff could provide data to each player about the optimum dates for conception to have the baby in a non prime month, or during a predicted IL stint in season. Great use of 10 days off.

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Yeah, these paternity leaves are pretty damn questionable. And you'd think ballplayers and their partners could time things to have their kids in the offseason. :cool:

 

True story: My ex was a teacher and when they were negotiating maternity leave a member of the school board suggested they should schedule their pregnancies so they'd deliver in the summer.

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True story: My ex was a teacher and when they were negotiating maternity leave a member of the school board suggested they should schedule their pregnancies so they'd deliver in the summer.

 

Most teachers I grew up with tried to do that anyway

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Most teachers I grew up with tried to do that anyway

 

"Ok Dear, the School Board says we can sex without protection during September, October, and November. The rest of the time we have to be using some kind of contraceptive".

 

Ya. Run that by a teacher and see how they feel about it. :D

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No Sale in those three days, right?

 

We shouldn't miss Sandy that much.

 

I'm looking for JBJ to wake up the echoes this series.

 

Sale is pitching today. I haven't heard whether Leon is back yet or not.

 

Regardless, Vazquez is a very good defensive catcher in his own right.

 

It was never a matter of Leon versus Vazquez for me, but a matter of Leon versus Swihart. No contest, and I say that as a Swihart supporter.

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Most teachers I grew up with tried to do that anyway

 

 

Big difference between deciding to do it and being required to do it...

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Sale is pitching today. I haven't heard whether Leon is back yet or not.

 

Regardless, Vazquez is a very good defensive catcher in his own right.

 

It was never a matter of Leon versus Vazquez for me, but a matter of Leon versus Swihart. No contest, and I say that as a Swihart supporter.

 

Neither Leon, nor Swihart have done anything of significance since the trade. Swihart actually has more homers and a higher OPS. Leon has a 3.96 CERA.

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Sale is pitching today. I haven't heard whether Leon is back yet or not.

 

Regardless, Vazquez is a very good defensive catcher in his own right.

 

It was never a matter of Leon versus Vazquez for me, but a matter of Leon versus Swihart. No contest, and I say that as a Swihart supporter.

 

I've said the same, myself. It was Leon vs Swihart, and to me that choice was always clearly Leon.

 

It is interesting how Sale walked so many people today with Vaz.

 

Small sample size, but I'll be glad when Leon is back behind the plate for Sale's next start.

 

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#Leongate is real

 

Maybe it is Salegate, if Chris cannot pitch effectively to Vazquez. They were chirping at each other all day. Sale needs to take charge if he doesn't like Vaz's catching ability or gamecalling. Leon will not be there next year.

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Maybe it is Salegate, if Chris cannot pitch effectively to Vazquez. They were chirping at each other all day. Sale needs to take charge if he doesn't like Vaz's catching ability or gamecalling. Leon will not be there next year.

 

Possibly, but it’s not so crazy to think they’d keep him as backup catcher. It’s not like there is another obvious name in the system barking at the door...

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Maybe it is Salegate, if Chris cannot pitch effectively to Vazquez. They were chirping at each other all day. Sale needs to take charge if he doesn't like Vaz's catching ability or gamecalling. Leon will not be there next year.

 

After signing that big extension with Sale, I think they'll keep Leon around.

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Maybe it is Salegate, if Chris cannot pitch effectively to Vazquez. They were chirping at each other all day. Sale needs to take charge if he doesn't like Vaz's catching ability or gamecalling. Leon will not be there next year.

 

If Leon only catches Sale and nobody else, he'll be worth keeping around.

 

2019 CERA with Sale:

 

2.61 w Leon

6.39 w Vaz

 

2018 was closer:

2.04 w Leon

2.27 w Vaz

 

2017 (Vaz caught 0nly 2 games)

2.63 w Leon

13.50 w Vaz

 

Career:

2.44 w Leon (350 inn)

4.37 w Vaz (78 Inn)

 

 

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If Leon only catches Sale and nobody else, he'll be worth keeping around.

 

2019 CERA with Sale:

 

2.61 w Leon

6.39 w Vaz

 

2018 was closer:

2.04 w Leon

2.27 w Vaz

 

2017 (Vaz caught 0nly 2 games)

2.63 w Leon

13.50 w Vaz

 

Career:

2.44 w Leon (350 inn)

4.37 w Vaz (78 Inn)

 

 

 

I am sure Leon is a fixture on this year's team, and maybe next also, if Chris Sale needs him. I just think that Sale should be able to pitch to a plywood backstop if he had to . He should make some sort of peace with Vaz because you can't spell Chris without the letters in Christian . Also, Sale may need a Vaz PH Pesky Pole HR to bail out one of his starts with Leon.

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I am sure Leon is a fixture on this year's team, and maybe next also, if Chris Sale needs him. I just think that Sale should be able to pitch to a plywood backstop if he had to . He should make some sort of peace with Vaz because you can't spell Chris without the letters in Christian . Also, Sale may need a Vaz PH Pesky Pole HR to bail out one of his starts with Leon.

 

Sure CHRISTopher Sale shares letters with CV, but Leon spelled backwards is NOEL. That's a bigger importance IMO.

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Sure CHRISTopher Sale shares letters with CV, but Leon spelled backwards is NOEL. That's a bigger importance IMO.

 

No wonder Noel's wife decided to give birth just so Ydnas would miss one of Christopher's starts, proving up Moon's stat based evidence that it's Sale/Leon forevermore.

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Just please don't anybody use the word 'binky', okay? Man I hate that one.

 

You're just mad because you're a POLLYANNA.

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Neither Leon, nor Swihart have done anything of significance since the trade. Swihart actually has more homers and a higher OPS. Leon has a 3.96 CERA.

 

I'm not talking offensively. Sale is clearly a better pitcher when pitching to Leon.

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I've said the same, myself. It was Leon vs Swihart, and to me that choice was always clearly Leon.

 

It is interesting how Sale walked so many people today with Vaz.

 

Small sample size, but I'll be glad when Leon is back behind the plate for Sale's next start.

 

 

Sale also had a slower pace last night. He didn't look as comfortable as he usually does.

 

He and Leon are just on the same page. That's nothing against Vaz, it just is what it is.

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Neither Leon, nor Swihart have done anything of significance since the trade. Swihart actually has more homers and a higher OPS. Leon has a 3.96 CERA.

 

That'll go down after today's 9 innings and 0 earned runs. :cool:

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That'll go down after today's 9 innings and 0 earned runs. :cool:

 

1 thing is pretty certain....whatever SCM states...the opposite will happen

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1 thing is pretty certain....whatever SCM states...the opposite will happen

 

 

Maybe he knows that, too, and is acting accordingly. He’s what Graham Nash called “King Midas in Reverse”...

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