Steven Wright facing 80 game suspension

[notin]

I entirely understand why Wright did what he did. What I don’t understand is why he didn’t tell the team in the offseason. I get he has a contract, but that can be voided. I think the Sox will likely release him at the end of his suspension assuming the pen has received reinforcements by then and he’ll have pissed off the one organization that kept giving him chances

 

If the Sox release him now, the entire contract is voided, which would give the Sox an additional $1.375mill cap room before taxes really pile up. If they wait until after his suspension, that number drops to $687,000, despite Wright not receiving any of it. But they also do Wright a favor by getting the suspension out of the way ASAP and hedge their own bets against mid-season bullpen acquisitions.

 

I think they hold him for at least half of a season...

[mvp 78]

I entirely understand why Wright did what he did. What I don’t understand is why he didn’t tell the team in the offseason. I get he has a contract, but that can be voided. I think the Sox will likely release him at the end of his suspension assuming the pen has received reinforcements by then and he’ll have pissed off the one organization that kept giving him chances

 

I think it says a lot about his character.

[BillyWilliams]

Uniform point taken, but we’re also talking about the only Major Leaguer to receive a lifetime ban under the new drug testing program. That has to carry considerable negative PR...

 

I disagree.

 

wright's transgressions happened while he was on the sox, but they can release him as "punishment" showing they will not tolerate his actions.

 

The signing of mejia occurred after his lifetime ban, showing they are willing to overlook his transgressions and still give him a uniform.

[a700hitter]

The cheating means nothing to me at this point. There has been so much cheating that has gone unchecked and undiscovered that it doesn't matter to me. The Domestic Violence stuff is more of a taint imo.

[mvp 78]

The cheating means nothing to me at this point. There has been so much cheating that has gone unchecked and undiscovered that it doesn't matter to me. The Domestic Violence stuff is more of a taint imo.

 

Yup.

[Jack Flap]

Signing Mejia was not a good look.

 

I'm not sure that I've ever rooted for a player not to make the team, but I am rooting against Mejia.

 

If he does make the team, I'll sadly have to root for him, and that won't make me happy.

 

I understand how you feel...I like a good redemption story as much as the next guy, but it's hard not to feel weird about the whole Mejia thing. I guess I'll have to tell myself that in a world where we've recently seen the Yanks (Chapman) and Astros (Osuna) exploit domestic violence situations to gain a competitive edge, there are worse sins than giving one final chance to a guy who was quite young when he made his (admittedly stupid and repeated) mistakes, and has paid for them by seeing a once-promising career derailed.

 

Mostly, though, I'm puzzled as to why the league would want to set the precedent that the three-strike "lifetime ban" isn't actually a lifetime ban at all, but rather a "wait a couple of years, and if you appear contrite and ask really nicely, you can be reinstated" type of ban...not a great message, IMO.

[notin]

I understand how you feel...I like a good redemption story as much as the next guy, but it's hard not to feel weird about the whole Mejia thing. I guess I'll have to tell myself that in a world where we've recently seen the Yanks (Chapman) and Astros (Osuna) exploit domestic violence situations to gain a competitive edge, there are worse sins than giving one final chance to a guy who was quite young when he made his (admittedly stupid and repeated) mistakes, and has paid for them by seeing a once-promising career derailed.

 

Mostly, though, I'm puzzled as to why the league would want to set the precedent that the three-strike "lifetime ban" isn't actually a lifetime ban at all, but rather a "wait a couple of years, and if you appear contrite and ask really nicely, you can be reinstated" type of ban...not a great message, IMO.

 

Not a new message, either.

 

Steve Howe was banned from MLB in 1992 after his seventh (yes, seventh) suspension for illegal drugs. He was re-instated shortly after and pitched occasionally in MLB until 1996.

 

Fergie Jenkins was banned by MLB after being busted with cocaine in 1980. Also re-instated shortly after and pitched for 3 more years before being inducted into Cooperstown...

[TylerD]

Dude is a dirtbag. He can go away now.

 

Agreed with this. Dude has so much potential but can't stay healthy and now with the suspension. Time to move away from him. Not much good a player does for you when he only plays a few games a season (or in his case not even)

[notin]

The cheating means nothing to me at this point. There has been so much cheating that has gone unchecked and undiscovered that it doesn't matter to me. The Domestic Violence stuff is more of a taint imo.

 

 

Agreed. The steroid/HGH/banned substance stuff gets overblown.

 

But the DV is a much more serious issue, yet the Sox still kept him.

 

It is possible the Sox do release Wright, but just for PEDs? After keeping him through a DV case?

 

If anything, his relessrwill be a combination of PEDs, the DV, and his inability to ever stay on the field...

[SCM33]

Have they released him yet?

[Kimmi]

The cheating means nothing to me at this point. There has been so much cheating that has gone unchecked and undiscovered that it doesn't matter to me. The Domestic Violence stuff is more of a taint imo.

 

I agree that the domestic violence stuff is more of a taint.

 

That said, in the supposed post steroid era, using PEDs should not be overlooked or even accepted as it was during the steroid era. Even back then, the "it's okay because everyone is doing it" excuse should not fly. Currently, it's an even weaker excuse then it was previously.

[Kimmi]

I understand how you feel...I like a good redemption story as much as the next guy, but it's hard not to feel weird about the whole Mejia thing. I guess I'll have to tell myself that in a world where we've recently seen the Yanks (Chapman) and Astros (Osuna) exploit domestic violence situations to gain a competitive edge, there are worse sins than giving one final chance to a guy who was quite young when he made his (admittedly stupid and repeated) mistakes, and has paid for them by seeing a once-promising career derailed.

 

Mostly, though, I'm puzzled as to why the league would want to set the precedent that the three-strike "lifetime ban" isn't actually a lifetime ban at all, but rather a "wait a couple of years, and if you appear contrite and ask really nicely, you can be reinstated" type of ban...not a great message, IMO.

 

I don't excuse Chavis for using PEDs because he and the people in his camp should know better. However, I can understand the willingness to forgive him and give him a second chance.

 

With Mejia getting caught 3 times, there's no excuse. I agree that MLB is setting a bad precedent by allowing Mejia back in.

 

When it was announced that the Sox signed Mejia, there was a fair amount of negative reaction from players around the league. None from our own players as far as I know, but I'm sure they weren't happy about it either. If Mejia makes the team, he is taking a roster spot from another player. Imagine the message being sent to that other player, who is presumably clean. MLB is basically telling those youngsters that it pays to cheat.

[harmony]

I don't excuse Chavis for using PEDs because he and the people in his camp should know better. However, I can understand the willingness to forgive him and give him a second chance.

 

With Mejia getting caught 3 times, there's no excuse. I agree that MLB is setting a bad precedent by allowing Mejia back in.

 

When it was announced that the Sox signed Mejia, there was a fair amount of negative reaction from players around the league. None from our own players as far as I know, but I'm sure they weren't happy about it either. If Mejia makes the team, he is taking a roster spot from another player. Imagine the message being sent to that other player, who is presumably clean. MLB is basically telling those youngsters that it pays to cheat.

Jenrry Mejia missed three-plus prime years of his MLB career, including his age 26, 27 and 28 seasons. That's not telling anyone that it pays to cheat.

[Jeter02]

amazing that in 2019 guys are still being reckless/getting caught

[cp176]

amazing that in 2019 guys are still being reckless/getting caught

 

Why does that amaze you? With millions upon millions of dollars on the line, it should come as absolutely no surprise to anyone that many of these guys would do anything at all to get in on the gravy train.

[FredLynn]

Jenrry Mejia missed three-plus prime years of his MLB career, including his age 26, 27 and 28 seasons. That's not telling anyone that it pays to cheat.

 

He should have missed the rest of them.

[Jeter02]

Why does that amaze you? With millions upon millions of dollars on the line, it should come as absolutely no surprise to anyone that many of these guys would do anything at all to get in on the gravy train.

i'm not surprised per se, despite the $ that's out there, seeing that "name" guys are getting caught, thought it might give more people pause, but i guess not..

[notin]

amazing that in 2019 guys are still being reckless/getting caught

 

 

If you were a 20-something AAAA player destined to ride buses into your mid-30’s and knew you were close, but your history said “not close enough.” And your choices were dying in minor league obscurity or maybe taking this little shot or that little pill and suddenly seeing every childhood dream, every moment you and your friends pretended in the backyard - suddenly become your real life, what would you do?

 

My choice wouldn’t be ethical and wouldn’t be popular with the fans. But no way I want my one-step-away career ending with me on a hotel bed in Rochester wondering “what if”...

[Kimmi]

Jenrry Mejia missed three-plus prime years of his MLB career, including his age 26, 27 and 28 seasons. That's not telling anyone that it pays to cheat.

 

By reinstating him, MLB is sending the wrong message, regardless of whether Mejia missed 3 prime seasons.

[Kimmi]

If you were a 20-something AAAA player destined to ride buses into your mid-30’s and knew you were close, but your history said “not close enough.” And your choices were dying in minor league obscurity or maybe taking this little shot or that little pill and suddenly seeing every childhood dream, every moment you and your friends pretended in the backyard - suddenly become your real life, what would you do?

 

My choice wouldn’t be ethical and wouldn’t be popular with the fans. But no way I want my one-step-away career ending with me on a hotel bed in Rochester wondering “what if”...

 

I would be too worried about

 

1. the long term effects that putting PEDs into my body would have.

 

2. getting caught and having that be the of my career.

 

3. the disappointment in my parents for cheating.

[Northern Star]

This has got to be some kind of mistake as we all know sox players don't take PED's.

 

Just ask big papi...........

 

lol, and here we go....

[SCM33]

I disagree.

 

wright's transgressions happened while he was on the sox, but they can release him as "punishment" showing they will not tolerate his actions.

 

The signing of mejia occurred after his lifetime ban, showing they are willing to overlook his transgressions and still give him a uniform.

 

f*** you. Only 18 to go? How many of those Championships were you alive to see when recruiting and Free Agency wasn't regulated?

 

Thats what I hate about Yankee Fans, living on the championships of the 1920s, when their grandparents werent even born. Give me a break.

 

Since you and I have been born, the scoreboard is Yankees 5, Redsox 4. Stop cowering into the ones you know nothing about, or never saw. I guarantee I know more about the Yankee players than you do.

 

Don't be a fraud. Don't hide behind championships that don't mean anything 100 years later, when Free Agents and the MLB draft was regulated.

Edited March 12, 2019 by SCM33

[harmony]

f*** you. Only 18 to go? How many of those Championships were you alive to see when recruiting and Free Agency wasn't regulated?

 

Thats what I hate about Yankee Fans, living on the championships of the 1920s, when their grandparents werent even born. Give me a break.

 

Since you and I have been born, the scoreboard is Yankees 5, Redsox 4. Stop cowering into the ones you know nothing about, or never saw. I guarantee I know more about the Yankee players than you do.

 

Don't be a fraud. Don't hide behind championships that don't mean anything 100 years later, when Free Agents and the MLB draft was regulated.

For what it's worth, the New York Yankees have won 11 World Series titles in my lifetime.

 

To my chagrin.

Edited March 12, 2019 by harmony

[BillyWilliams]

f*** you. Only 18 to go? How many of those Championships were you alive to see when recruiting and Free Agency wasn't regulated?

 

Thats what I hate about Yankee Fans, living on the championships of the 1920s, when their grandparents werent even born. Give me a break.

 

Since you and I have been born, the scoreboard is Yankees 5, Redsox 4. Stop cowering into the ones you know nothing about, or never saw. I guarantee I know more about the Yankee players than you do.

 

Don't be a fraud. Don't hide behind championships that don't mean anything 100 years later, when Free Agents and the MLB draft was regulated.

 

Ah, another millennial twat that thinks he knows everything but in reality doesn't know s***.

 

First off, I have seen more WS titles than the 5 you speak of.

 

Secondly, you certainly don't know more about the Yankees than I do. Remove your head from your ass and stop using your bellybutton as a porthole window.

 

Lastly, go f*** yourself *******.

[notin]

Ah, another millennial twat that thinks he knows everything but in reality doesn't know s***.

 

First off, I have seen more WS titles than the 5 you speak of.

 

 

But his point that you haven’t seen 27 is true. Unless you’re a contemporary of bosoxmal...

[mvp 78]

Ah, another millennial twat that thinks he knows everything but in reality doesn't know s***.

 

First off, I have seen more WS titles than the 5 you speak of.

 

Secondly, you certainly don't know more about the Yankees than I do. Remove your head from your ass and stop using your bellybutton as a porthole window.

 

Lastly, go f*** yourself *******.

 

I don't believe SCM is a millenial. I'm pretty sure he's just a bald Gen Xer.

[BillyWilliams]

But his point that you haven’t seen 27 is true. Unless you’re a contemporary of bosoxmal...

 

So one should not appreciate their team's history?

[BillyWilliams]

I don't believe SCM is a millenial. I'm pretty sure he's just a bald Gen Xer.

 

Could be, but that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't know what he's talking about ......

[mvp 78]

Could be, but that doesn't change the fact that he doesn't know what he's talking about ......

 

That's rich coming from you. LOL......................

[BillyWilliams]

That's rich coming from you. LOL......................

 

Same could be said for you..........