2018 World Series Champions Boston Red Sox

[Slasher9]

Power Pitching wins Championships! Congrads to all you pink hats and hat's off to the 3 Stooges who defied all odds!

 

you're a f***ing idiot.

like for real.

[Emp9]

My favorite moment was the team's reaction to Eovaldi's outing in Game 3, and how they rallied around him after giving up the walk off home run. That has to be the worst feeling in the world for a pitcher, especially after such a grueling game. The team was not having anything to do with letting Eovaldi get down on himself. Well done Red Sox.

 

Took ‘em 10 innings to walk off. Probably the only real home field advantage in these playoffs was having last ups in a tie/close game. I felt the odds of that happening was inevitable as time went on. I just wish it happened earlier because that game really f***ed-up my sleep cycle.

[moonslav59]

It's funny. I'm down here in Sugar Land, Texas listening to their sports talks shows, and they're like, "We shouldn't pay $30M for Kershaw, because he sucks in the playoffs. We need to find guys like Price and Eovaldi- guys that can step it up when it counts."

 

I had to laugh, but that's the reality of how many fans view player value. They went on to bitch about Cole and even Verlander's playoff performances. Yup, they did!

[Bellhorn04]

It's funny. I'm down here in Sugar Land, Texas listening to their sports talks shows, and they're like, "We shouldn't pay $30M for Kershaw, because he sucks in the playoffs. We need to find guys like Price and Eovaldi- guys that can step it up when it counts."

 

I had to laugh, but that's the reality of how many fans view player value. They went on to bitch about Cole and even Verlander's playoff performances. Yup, they did!

 

The idiot factor is huge on those sports radio talk shows.

[moonslav59]

The idiot factor is huge on those sports radio talk shows.

 

True, and this was the host speaking.

[jung]

It's funny. I'm down here in Sugar Land, Texas listening to their sports talks shows, and they're like, "We shouldn't pay $30M for Kershaw, because he sucks in the playoffs. We need to find guys like Price and Eovaldi- guys that can step it up when it counts."

 

I had to laugh, but that's the reality of how many fans view player value. They went on to bitch about Cole and even Verlander's playoff performances. Yup, they did!

 

Oh but GM's should just be able to pull up a computer database and presto ......understand which pitchers will yield the most value for a big money contract. The only GM's that can't are those that just don't pull up those endless streams of data from the computer which surely will without question reveal which pitchers will go out and perform to their contracts.....RIGHT??? Those GM's should of course be summarily FIRED!

[Hitch]

The idiot factor is huge on those sports radio talk shows.

 

It truly is. They are damned near impossible to listen to.

[kenmeister]

It's funny. I'm down here in Sugar Land, Texas listening to their sports talks shows, and they're like, "We shouldn't pay $30M for Kershaw, because he sucks in the playoffs. We need to find guys like Price and Eovaldi- guys that can step it up when it counts."

 

I had to laugh, but that's the reality of how many fans view player value. They went on to bitch about Cole and even Verlander's playoff performances. Yup, they did!

 

Oh. My. G-d.

 

Btw I don't think it's an accident that Price started pitching better in the playoffs the deeper we got in, and the more frequently he got used. For him it was a matter of getting used to the atmosphere and not having time to think too much.

[jung]

So this is an interesting fact that I did not know because it simply does not really interest me to know. There are only 5 votes for WS MVP. 3 of those votes go to the broadcast rights holders. 1 vote goes to MLB.com. One vote is shared by two sports writers who are chosen moments before the vote is actually cast and told that they are the two sports writers that will share a vote.

 

What a cluster that is. Can MLB get anything right lately? Pearce got the award on a 3-2 vote. 5 total votes with some splits and the sports writers that will split one vote chosen moments before they have to vote. RIDICULOUS!

[Emp9]

Understanding the reality that it’s only possible for one team to win a World Series every year and that the rest can go suck it. I’m sure a lot of competitive teams don’t get what they pay for. It comes with the territory and it goes without saying, right?

[Dojji]

Pearce deserved that MVP. Other players deserved a great deal of praise for their performance, especially Price and Kelly and Eovaldi. But you have to give the reward to some individual, and the dude that hit 2 HRs in the clinching game is a solid choice.

[jung]

Pearce deserved that MVP. Other players deserved a great deal of praise for their performance, especially Price and Kelly and Eovaldi. But you have to give the reward to some individual, and the dude that hit 2 HRs in the clinching game is a solid choice.

 

But the guy who won two games in the WS of baseball, a game that will always be driven by pitching until and unless they change the fact that every single thing that happens in baseball starts with a pitch did not deserve the award? You are welcome to your opinion. I just don't think so.

 

But that is not my real complaint here though my preferred vote was co-MVP Price/Pearce followed by Price alone followed by Pearce alone. My real complaint here is that as usual with MLB and especially lately they have adopted an utterly STUPID process.

[Hitch]

Pearce deserved that MVP. Other players deserved a great deal of praise for their performance, especially Price and Kelly and Eovaldi. But you have to give the reward to some individual, and the dude that hit 2 HRs in the clinching game is a solid choice.

 

Not to mention his clutch hits in game 4.

[moonslav59]

Oh. My. G-d.

 

Btw I don't think it's an accident that Price started pitching better in the playoffs the deeper we got in, and the more frequently he got used. For him it was a matter of getting used to the atmosphere and not having time to think too much.

 

To me, he's always been a great pitcher and it was just a matter of time (and lengthening his sample size) before he had a good stretch during a pinpoint sample size that is a playoff season.

 

I'd expect Kershaw to pitch great at times, if his playoff sample size grew.

 

The fans who bitched at Price, before this October, were probably the same ones starting to question Betts and his post season numbers.

 

Maybe his HR in the last game will keep them at bay for a while.

 

By and large, most players' playoff sample sizes are just too small to definitively judge a player, plus the numbers are often scattered over several years with huge gaps between them. We've seen players turn around 300-600 PA sample sizes, and yet some put so much faith in 80-150 PAs sample sizes or less.

[moonslav59]

So this is an interesting fact that I did not know because it simply does not really interest me to know. There are only 5 votes for WS MVP. 3 of those votes go to the broadcast rights holders. 1 vote goes to MLB.com. One vote is shared by two sports writers who are chosen moments before the vote is actually cast and told that they are the two sports writers that will share a vote.

 

What a cluster that is. Can MLB get anything right lately? Pearce got the award on a 3-2 vote. 5 total votes with some splits and the sports writers that will split one vote chosen moments before they have to vote. RIDICULOUS!

 

Nothing surprises me, when it comes to awards and how they choose them.

 

We've had Gold Glove winners who played DH most of the year, and voters leaving Pedro off the MVP ballot in a season unmatched by any player in my lifetime.

[jung]

What by the way do the Broadcast Rights holders know about who should be the MVP of the WS? They bought the rights, sold their commercials. They are out at that point. However, are there other influences on broadcasters that might sway their vote? You're darn right there are.

 

My God Chevy is giving away a truck. They have more right to a vote than the Broadcast Rights Holders have. MLB.com I can see having a vote. I can see sports writers having a vote though having two split one vote and be informed moments before that they are the two is laughable.

 

If you want only 5 votes cast, fine...not much time to get the votes in and tabulate them. I get that. But if you are going to have only 5 votes, get the Broadcast Rights clowns out of there and make it a cumulative vote. Have the 5 voters plus the splits give you their top three candidates for the MVP and the winner is the guy that gets the most votes. That is 15 actual votes they would have to tabulate. No big deal.

 

Who is the idiot at MLB Headquarters that came up with yet another stupid MLB cluster that would immediately make more sense with the application of a bare minimum of common sense?

[Dojji]

What by the way do the Broadcast Rights holders know about who should be the MVP of the WS? They bought the rights, sold their commercials. They are out at that point. However, are there other influences on broadcasters that might sway their vote? You're darn right there are.

 

My God Chevy is giving away a truck. They have more right to a vote than the Broadcast Rights Holders have. MLB.com I can see having a vote. I can see sports writers having a vote though having two split one vote and be informed moments before that they are the two is laughable.

 

If you want only 5 votes cast, fine...not much time to get the votes in and tabulate them. I get that. But if you are going to have only 5 votes, get the Broadcast Rights clowns out of there and make it a cumulative vote. Have the 5 voters plus the splits give you their top three candidates for the MVP and the winner is the guy that gets the most votes. That is 15 actual votes they would have to tabulate. No big deal.

 

Who is the idiot at MLB Headquarters that came up with yet another stupid MLB cluster that would immediately make more sense with the application of a bare minimum of common sense?

 

You're treating this like it matters a lot more than it does. If I was voting I might have given the MVP to Price, but because Pearce was also worthy I'm not going to sweat it, and I recommend you do the same.

[moonslav59]

Pearce deserved that MVP. Other players deserved a great deal of praise for their performance, especially Price and Kelly and Eovaldi. But you have to give the reward to some individual, and the dude that hit 2 HRs in the clinching game is a solid choice.

 

Pearce was huge, no doubt, but to me, we had the series won before game 5, anyways.

 

To me, I think Price deserved it and Eovaldi maybe was tied with Pearce for 2nd.

 

Pearce had just 12 ABs (16 PAs). 4 hits in 12 ABs/ 8 times in base in 16 PAs.

 

Price faced 54 batters and got 41 outs.

 

This is always the argument I use for giving SP'ers the MVP. Great starters often pitch to 850+ PAs a year- far more than any batter ever gets. Just because they are bunched up, does not make them any less valuable.

[cp176]

Is it just me or would I have found it next to impossible to choose the MVP- Any number of players could have received it. Price I guess would have been my pick but I really don't think one player should have been singled out from this team. It isn't particularly important for sure but the principle of even having this award for this team this year doesn't seem to fit.

[Dojji]

Joe Castiglione wanted Pierce and Price to be co-MVPs, there's a precedent for that, it would probably have been the best way to handle this.

[Slasher9]

Chevy would have 1million percent chosen pearce over price. im sure they had a say in it.

[jung]

You're treating this like it matters a lot more than it does. If I was voting I might have given the MVP to Price, but because Pearce was also worthy I'm not going to sweat it, and I recommend you do the same.

 

When MLB starts again to exhibit a bare minimum of common sense about ANYTHING I will at least begin to stop sweating it. Until then, I will hold my opinion and you can hold yours. They already have one league exhibiting pure trash. But MLB hides behind the notion that as the administrator they can do absolutely nothing about that. Really MLB? You can exert no influence on the NL...none.....zippo...zero....nada.

 

MLB and the AL and NL being intensely secretive organizations, for all I know they could be operating at fever pitch behind the scenes to resolve their collective messes. But I doubt it. Oh by way, since they only exist because of an anti-trust provision designed specifically by law passed by the people we send to Washington DC, should MLB actually be allowed to be as secretive as they are?

[FredLynn]

Pearce was huge, no doubt, but to me, we had the series won before game 5, anyways.

 

To me, I think Price deserved it and Eovaldi maybe was tied with Pearce for 2nd.

 

Pearce had just 12 ABs (16 PAs). 4 hits in 12 ABs/ 8 times in base in 16 PAs.

 

Price faced 54 batters and got 41 outs.

 

This is always the argument I use for giving SP'ers the MVP. Great starters often pitch to 850+ PAs a year- far more than any batter ever gets. Just because they are bunched up, does not make them any less valuable.

 

I also picked Price and was a bit surprised that Pearce won it. But he (Pearce), along with a bunch of other guys, had a great WS.

[jung]

Joe Castiglione wanted Pierce and Price to be co-MVPs, there's a precedent for that, it would probably have been the best way to handle this.

 

 

That would have been the best result IMO. However since the auto companies have been involved in these Championship MVP award prizes there has at least as I recall NEVER been a co-MVP awarded in any of the major team enterprises where they offer that prize. As insane as it seems, it appears that it does not happen because whomever is putting up the prize vehicle won't push another one across the table.

 

They probably would if the Networks spent even five seconds per game panning over to a shot of the prize vehicle. I never saw that vehicle until it was awarded and I think i only missed coverage walking the damn dog!

[moonslav59]

I'm sure glad we had Pearce and his HRs were highly valuable.

 

I mean no slight on him, but 54 batters faced bt Price vs 16 PAs by Pearce tips the scales.

 

So many pf Prices batters faced were high leverage against hitters with great numbers. The Dodgers had like 8 guys over .800 this year. The type of balanced team many want the Sox to have.

 

Price was lights out, and his relief appearances were pressure-packed.

[moonslav59]

That would have been the best result IMO. However since the auto companies have been involved in these Championship MVP award prizes there has at least as I recall NEVER been a co-MVP awarded in any of the major team enterprises where they offer that prize. As insane as it seems, it appears that it does not happen because whomever is putting up the prize vehicle won't push another one across the table.

 

They probably would if the Networks spent even five seconds per game panning over to a shot of the prize vehicle. I never saw that vehicle until it was awarded and I think i only missed coverage walking the damn dog!

 

What's a freakin truck worth?

 

This is comical.

 

We got players with bonuses based on this sort of crap worth more than a truck.

[jung]

What's a freakin truck worth?

 

This is comical.

 

We got players with bonuses based on this sort of crap worth more than a truck.

 

It sure as heck ain't the cost of a damn extra trophy! Thats pocket change.

[SoxnCycles]

To me, he's always been a great pitcher and it was just a matter of time (and lengthening his sample size) before he had a good stretch during a pinpoint sample size that is a playoff season.

 

I'd expect Kershaw to pitch great at times, if his playoff sample size grew.

 

The fans who bitched at Price, before this October, were probably the same ones starting to question Betts and his post season numbers.

 

Maybe his HR in the last game will keep them at bay for a while.

 

By and large, most players' playoff sample sizes are just too small to definitively judge a player, plus the numbers are often scattered over several years with huge gaps between them. We've seen players turn around 300-600 PA sample sizes, and yet some put so much faith in 80-150 PAs sample sizes or less.

 

Nope. Fans who bitched about Price were fans that thought he had some sort of mental block, when it came to high pressure situations.

I'm glad he finally got over it, but I still think he's a head case.

[sk7326]

I'm sure glad we had Pearce and his HRs were highly valuable.

 

I mean no slight on him, but 54 batters faced bt Price vs 16 PAs by Pearce tips the scales.

 

So many pf Prices batters faced were high leverage against hitters with great numbers. The Dodgers had like 8 guys over .800 this year. The type of balanced team many want the Sox to have.

 

Price was lights out, and his relief appearances were pressure-packed.

 

Neither Price nor Pearce was a "bad" choice. Joe Kelly and Nathan Eovaldi were minor steps down from them.

[Station 13]

Did anybody saw Porcello celebration? Good thing it was not before children and very late at night. LMAO