Angel Hernandez Factor?

[cp176]

We need robot umpires , android managers and Siri or Amazon's Alexa Echo Voice, and maybe that GPS girl to do all the announcing. Things would be perfect. Except, the complainers would have to find something else to gripe about.

 

No complaining ever again - robots don't make mistakes.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Something just occurred to me. Wasn't Angel Hernandez the umpire who incorrectly called Todd Walker's HR foul in the 2003 ALCS and had it almost immediately overturned by another umpire?

[Youk Of The Nation]

not to mention, how are managers going to argue with robot umps? Will they run out on the field yelling "01110000 01101001 01110010 01100001 01101110 01101000 01100001 00100000 01110000 01100001 01101110 01110100 01110011 00001010 00001010 00001010!!!"?

 

 

I ran that through a binary translator on Google and it translates as "Piranha Pants".

[mvp 78]

Something just occurred to me. Wasn't Angel Hernandez the umpire who incorrectly called Todd Walker's HR foul in the 2003 ALCS and had it almost immediately overturned by another umpire?

 

[Youk Of The Nation]

It actually hit the foul pole. He really is just the worst.

[moonslav59]

The guy must be blind.

 

It explains everything.

[Kimmi]

Personally I think using replay on safe and out calls is a very good thing. Sure it slows things up a bit but there have been a TON of calls reversed. That means a lot of wrong made right.

 

Doesn't that say something about our umpires though? I understand getting it wrong on the bang-bang plays. But they miss too many that are not bang-bang. And if the missed call is a bang-bang play, the replay is likely to be inconclusive.

 

Hold the umpires more accountable.

[Bellhorn04]

Doesn't that say something about our umpires though? I understand getting it wrong on the bang-bang plays. But they miss too many that are not bang-bang. And if the missed call is a bang-bang play, the replay is likely to be inconclusive.

 

Hold the umpires more accountable.

 

I think it's possible that the umps are doing the best they can. Some of these calls are incredibly hard to make with the naked eye. On the force play, you have to be able to see two things at once-the ball hitting the glove and the foot hitting the bag. And both are moving pretty fast. I'm not sure it's humanly possible, frankly.

[oldtimer]

I think it's possible that the umps are doing the best they can. Some of these calls are incredibly hard to make with the naked eye. On the force play, you have to be able to see two things at once-the ball hitting the glove and the foot hitting the bag. And both are moving pretty fast. I'm not sure it's humanly possible, frankly.

 

All it takes is blinking at the wrong time. They do the best they can, however, those that score much worse than the rest on a yearly basis should be demoted. The bang bang play is just that. Umpires not only see the play but listen for the ball hitting the glove and the foot hitting the base, when that occurs.

 

When we have real time accurate robo assessment of balls and strikes it is still my contention that it could be easily used as a tool by the HP umpire to get all of his calls correct.

[SoxnCycles]

not to mention, how are managers going to argue with robot umps? Will they run out on the field yelling "01110000 01101001 01110010 01100001 01101110 01101000 01100001 00100000 01110000 01100001 01101110 01110100 01110011 00001010 00001010 00001010!!!"?

 

That 01100001 word will get you run every time.

[notin]

I ran that through a binary translator on Google and it translates as "Piranha Pants".

 

I wondered if anyone would do that...

[notin]

That 01100001 word will get you run every time.

 

"Crash must have called him a 01100001" - Annie Savoy (modified)...

[SoxnCycles]

I wondered if anyone would do that...

 

Run it through a binary translator, or call someone "Piranha Pants"?

[notin]

Something just occurred to me. Wasn't Angel Hernandez the umpire who incorrectly called Todd Walker's HR foul in the 2003 ALCS and had it almost immediately overturned by another umpire?

 

Who was the umpire who called Bellhorn's home run in game 6 of the 2004 ALCS as a double? Was it also Angel Hernandez?

[notin]

Run it through a binary translator, or call someone "Piranha Pants"?

 

I'm trying to get some momentum for my umpire accountability plan here...

[SoxnCycles]

I'm trying to get some momentum for my umpire accountability plan here...

 

I'm on board!

[Youk Of The Nation]

Who was the umpire who called Bellhorn's home run in game 6 of the 2004 ALCS as a double? Was it also Angel Hernandez?

 

That was actually Jim Joyce

[Bellhorn04]

That was actually Jim Joyce

 

Another one of the good guys.

 

Seriously, every Sox fan owes a bit of a debt to that umpiring crew IMHO

[notin]

That was actually Jim Joyce

 

 

Joyce is definitely not one who should have a piranha stuffed down his pants...

[oldtimer]

Last night Benintendi took a third strike that was off the plate. Caused a flap and Cora got himself ejected. A robo-ump would have got that call right for ball 4.

[notin]

Last night Benintendi took a third strike that was off the plate. Caused a flap and Cora got himself ejected. A robo-ump would have got that call right for ball 4.

 

But how long until the robot umps turn on you?

 

You do realize both The Terminator and The Matrix both started their legends with robot umpires, right?

[S5Dewey]

Getting back to Hernandez, there is a school of thought that may have some validity that Hernandez is umpiring in the playoffs this year because he's filed a discrimination suit against MLB, saying that he's being overlooked because 1) Joe Torre doesn't like him, and 2) he's a minority.

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19805392/umpire-angel-hernandez-sues-mlb-discrimination-treatment-joe-torre

[dgalehouse]

But how long until the robot umps turn on you?

 

You do realize both The Terminator and The Matrix both started their legends with robot umpires, right?

 

A robot ump wouldn't have ejected Cora. He ( it ) would have killed Cora.

[Kimmi]

I think it's possible that the umps are doing the best they can. Some of these calls are incredibly hard to make with the naked eye. On the force play, you have to be able to see two things at once-the ball hitting the glove and the foot hitting the bag. And both are moving pretty fast. I'm not sure it's humanly possible, frankly.

 

You may be right that the umps are doing the best they can. I have never umpired a game, so I can't say that they could do any better.

 

That said, I do believe the lack of accountability is a problem.

[moonslav59]

You may be right that the umps are doing the best they can. I have never umpired a game, so I can't say that they could do any better.

 

That said, I do believe the lack of accountability is a problem.

 

Humans are humans. Even the best umps make too many mistakes- accountability or not. No ump could have called that strike that was thrown when Vaz stood up and blocked the view.

 

Robo umps for balls and strikes needs to begin in 2019.

[Kimmi]

Humans are humans. Even the best umps make too many mistakes- accountability or not. No ump could have called that strike that was thrown when Vaz stood up and blocked the view.

 

Robo umps for balls and strikes needs to begin in 2019.

 

I have no problem with that type of missed call. It happens.