Yankees Trade Rumors

[Carpin]

It all depends on if a team is trying to win. Cubs gave up much more for a reliever.

 

The difference is that the cubs were desperate to land a closer, they had a big hole before the trade; the yanks have Andujar, even if he's not as good as Machado, he's far from a liability

[jacksonianmarch]

And the Cubs were staring at a 108 year title drought. There’s a different pressure on your club when there’s a curse as some of you guys might remember.

 

There will be no Machado deal for Andujar. I could definitely see Andujar dealt for pitching if we get Machado, but we won’t send an .800 OPS 3b in the majors who has 5 more years of team control for a rental. That’s just stupid.

 

From the sounds of it, there’s been almost no offers for the Mets pair of aces. It seems initial requests scared everyone off. To this point, the Yanks have shown no willingness to deal Sheffield, as they’ve essentially labeled him as untouchable. Cashman has done this before where he’s seen the market and might upgrade a strength at a cheaper cost than upgrading a weakness

[Bellhorn04]

19 days to go. Cashman is going to do something major, I have little doubt of that.

[jacksonianmarch]

19 days to go. Cashman is going to do something major, I have little doubt of that.

 

I agree with you there. I do not agree that he's selling the farm for a starter. He could be setting up smokescreens and has his eye on something totally unexpected

[Carpin]

Let's wait for "stealth Cashman" to strike again

[OH FOY]

I don't see Machado for you guys. That Cashman would give away, all these good young kids, Doubt it for a Rental. Dynamic Trade, with kids mentioned for Machado, I would say DeGrom.

[jacksonianmarch]

Let's wait for "stealth Cashman" to strike again

 

Exactly. We knew Gray was heading to NY last year, but before that the deal with CWS came with no chatter and the Stanton trade was already done and waiting his approval when it was leaked. When you hear the Yankees involved in a rumor, I would say most of the time it’s the other team leaking and may not even be true.

 

He’s already said he’s doing something. In June he said the team had earned the right to be upgraded via trade. He’s not going to say that if he didn’t have an idea of what he could get.

 

In terms of predicting what he’s doing....

 

I think he makes a deal for an innings eater, possibly a JA Happ or a Kyle Gibson. I also think he’s going to land another high leverage reliever.

[OH FOY]

Just want to clarify, I don't think you guys will go for a "Dynamic" Trade. Just a thought what direction if that's was the case. Still think Happ, and a Reliever too. Less will get you more, for your purposes.

[moonslav59]

I don't see Machado for you guys. That Cashman would give away, all these good young kids, Doubt it for a Rental. Dynamic Trade, with kids mentioned for Machado, I would say DeGrom.

 

deGrom makes more sense, in terms of need area and team control years, but he'll cost more than Machado in prospects.

 

Does anyone doubt that Machado is a Yankee in 2019?

 

[Bellhorn04]

Does anyone doubt that Machado is a Yankee in 2019?

 

Strong possibility, obviously. The Dodgers might make a run at him, to make things interesting.

[Carpin]

deGrom makes more sense, in terms of need area and team control years, but he'll cost more than Machado in prospects.

 

Does anyone doubt that Machado is a Yankee in 2019?

 

 

I just read that the asking price for deGrom is that high that the Muts have no proposals for him.

 

Machado to the yankees will only happen if we deal Andujar or Didi, I don't see a fit right now. Amazing talent but I think Cashman will get involved to drive his price up a lot

[dgalehouse]

Happ is one of the more overrated guys out there. Hardly much of an upgrade. I seriously doubt that Dombrowski would go after him. Don't think Cashman is that dumb either. Go big or go home. Happ is not the answer.

[Station 13]

 

Does anyone doubt that Machado is a Yankee in 2019?

 

 

They do have spending leeway. But 35M a year, they can have him for 10 years.

[jacksonianmarch]

Doubt he’s at $35 mil a year. I have a strong suspicion that he’s a Yankee next year. I could also see a scenario where Andujar is moved for pitching after that.

 

Machado to 3B

Andujar plus for DeGrom

Sheffield moves into the rotation

Frazier takes over LF

Carroll or Kahnle move up to take over for Robertson

 

Team would be reloaded

[Carpin]

I just read that Yankees might be inclined to deal Sonny Gray, he has been a huge disappointment, they even mention the Brewers are players for him.

 

https://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2018/07/mlb_trade_rumors_yankees_dealing_away_disappointin.html

 

Don't know if this can happen, sometimes he looks very good, but most of the time he's nothing more than a punching bag out there

[jacksonianmarch]

Gray has value. His splits show he’s a damn good pitcher when he’s not in NY or BOS.

[Carpin]

Then he might have more value for somebody else, if he can't pitch in Bos or NY he has half the value for us

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I'm starting to think the Mets wait to the offseason to make a decision on Degrom. A new GM will be hired in the offseason and he will be responsible for deciding if the Mets rebuild or continue to try to compete. If the latter, the Mets have a very competitive rotation next year:

Degrom

Syndergaard

Matz

Wheeler

 

You can win a World Series with that rotation. The Mets would need to make changes to their position players and upgrade the bullpen.

 

I think the Yankees end up with Eovaldi. That sounds like Cashman's speed, a rotation upgrade who would allow the Yankees to hold on to their best young talent. I wonder who the Yankees would have to give up for Eovaldi? C.Adams and something else (but not Florial, Sheffield, or any young talent on the current roster)?

Edited July 14, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[jacksonianmarch]

Eovaldi and Happ are killing their market right now. Both have been rocked of late. I wonder if coming out of the ASB is Sheffield will get a couple starts in German’s place. There’s a real chance the Yanks shore up the pen even further and leave the rotation in the hands of the four vets and a rotating kid. Cash is gonna do something for sure

[a700hitter]

The Yankees are getting interest in Sonny Gray.

[Spudboy]

The Yankees are getting interest in Sonny Gray.

 

That sucks.

 

I wish they would get stuck with him.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

C.Frazier, Brian Cashman's favorite trade chip--he can't get rid of him fast enough--was put on the DL for a concussion. This was the second time this year that Frazier landed on the DL due to concussion. With the trade deadline coming up, the timing couldn't be more problematic for the Yankees: a second concussion will give teams pause in trading for Frazier. To obtain a SP, the Yankees will need to turn to other trade chips. I doubt they can use Loaisiga in a trade (shoulder). Of course, the Yankees still have Florial and Sheffield and could obtain a really good starter with those two. According to reports, however, the Yankees are unwilling to trade Sheffield.

 

The Yankees might look to obtain more of a 4th or 5th starter, a guy who won't require a top prospect. But this might not be the best strategy. The Yankees are one of the best teams in baseball--why not go all out for a SP and increase the team's odds of winning a championship?

Edited July 23, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Fan_since_Boggs]

The Yankees are getting interest in Sonny Gray.

 

Someone -- was it Heyman? -- said this is all nonsense. The Yankees are not trading Gray. After all, the Yankees are a little short in the rotation as it is. They can't possibly lose another starter.

[a700hitter]

Someone -- was it Heyman? -- said this is all nonsense. The Yankees are not trading Gray. After all, the Yankees are a little short in the rotation as it is. They can't possibly lose another starter.

Many of the rumors at this time of the year are nonsense.

[dgalehouse]

I'm starting to think the Mets wait to the offseason to make a decision on Degrom. A new GM will be hired in the offseason and he will be responsible for deciding if the Mets rebuild or continue to try to compete. If the latter, the Mets have a very competitive rotation next year:

Degrom

Syndergaard

Matz

Wheeler

 

You can win a World Series with that rotation. The Mets would need to make changes to their position players and upgrade the bullpen.

 

I think the Yankees end up with Eovaldi. That sounds like Cashman's speed, a rotation upgrade who would allow the Yankees to hold on to their best young talent. I wonder who the Yankees would have to give up for Eovaldi? C.Adams and something else (but not Florial, Sheffield, or any young talent on the current roster)?

 

If I were the Mets , I would not trade any of these pitchers and try to rebuild. They had everything go wrong this year , but they have a good nucleus of talent to build around , and could easily get back in contention next year. But if they did intend to deal deGrom , now would be the time. They would get better offers for him now than they would in the off season.

[jacksonianmarch]

Frazier’s concussion won’t complicate matters as he will end up being fine going forward. Loaisiga’s shoulder will as nobody will want to deal for him until they see him throw again and that won’t be til after the break. We’ve got a lot more than just them, though. Machado brought back more in quantity than I had expected. They only got one top 100 guy which was about what I’d anticipated. The Mets got almost nothing for Familia. The rest of the rentals out there will likely be had for nothing. With the deadline approaching, my expectations have become true. I expected almost radio silence out of NYY. I’ve heard more Sox rumors than Yanks rumors. This adds to Cashman’s unpredictable nature. My bet all along has been that we would get JA Happ and a reliever. I still think that’s the way they’ll go, but I’m pulling that out of my ass just as much an anyone. Cash could make a roster changing shakeup as well.

[jacksonianmarch]

As expected, the Yanks are in on Britton. They’re also in on Archer, which would be interesting IMO but probably a rough move as the Sox dominate him and he’s got issues with the long ball (Sonny Gray says hi). I think Britton and Happ would be the right move.

 

Apparently Wilpon of the Mets is so caught up in the Yankees winning percentage and trying to stay relevant that a deal to NYY would likely not happen even if the Yanks were the best option. The dysfunction in that FO is at an all time high.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Wasn't J.Morneau's career derailed due to concussions? I don't remember now, but two concussions in four months of baseball should be a red flag IMO. Some teams might want to see Frazier stay healthy (or concussion-free) for a full season before trading for him.

[Slasher9]

Wasn't J.Morneau's career derailed due to concussions? I don't remember now, but two concussions in four months of baseball should be a red flag IMO. Some teams might want to see Frazier stay healthy (or concussion-free) for a full season before trading for him.

 

His trade value has plummeted. He’s a throw in at best right now

[jacksonianmarch]

That’s not true at all. Frazier is 23 and has been killing AAA pitching. He’s in demand for sure. My bet is he is kept, though, with the current injury. Morneau had a bunch of concussions over his long big league career. I’d take a career like Morneau’s for Frazier absolutely.

 

The problem right now isn’t a lack of viable trade assets to send elsewhere, the problem right now is a lack of quality guys to deal for. We saw a generational talent in Machado moved, a dominant closer in Hand and a few ancillary guys moved this far (Familia, Colome, Span, Pearce), but no real juice to the deadline at all. The Yanks needs are clear. We have seven days to see if they address them