Swihart requests a trade

[notin]

Probably not notin - sometimes you just have to keep putting one foot in front of another.

 

That doesn't mean you'll be heading in the right direction. ..

[notin]

 

I would hate to lose Swihart, but I agree that if the Sox are not going to play him, they need to trade him. Having him take up a roster spot is doing him no good and the team no good.

 

Sometimes better products don't pan out. In fact that's really the case with most of them. There's a really good chance the Sox deal Swihart and never miss him, much like how they don't miss Owens, Middlebrooks, or Cecchini.

 

This isn't always a matter of the prospect being mishandled or poorly developed. There are only 750 possible roster spots in MLB. It's a little silly to think they're are 100 players in the minors worthy of earning one every year. ...

[Bellhorn04]

This isn't always a matter of the prospect being mishandled or poorly developed. There are only 750 possible roster spots in MLB. It's a little silly to think they're are 100 players in the minors worthy of earning one every year. ...

 

I got you except for the last sentence.

 

How many players graduate from the minors to the majors each year on average, would you say?

[notin]

I got you except for the last sentence.

 

How many players graduate from the minors to the majors each year on average, would you say?

 

Last year, 262 rookies made their MLB debut, which does exceed one third of all roster spots. But 52 of debuted after September 1, when different roster rules apply. But only 3 had enough plate appearances to qualify for a title and only 50 had even 100 plate appearances. 50 pitchers had as many as 50 IP.

 

Historically, over one half of these players will never play in MLB again.

[mvp 78]

He should have never left. As predicted the day he was hired..,,DD has demolished our Farm. The hope was that the decimation would lead to a parade but that is still TBD.

So the scoreboard remains...Red Sox parades:

Ben = 1

DD = 0

He sealed his fate with the Panda and Hanley signings combined with 2 straight last place finishes.

[mvp 78]

Vazquez was signed as a Catcher when he was 17 years old. Swihart was converted to Catcher much later. He really didn't start competitive Catching until he was 20.

Actually Vazquez was Drafted sorry. Don't matter at this point, Sox should do all they could to move on from Swihart. See if he could resurrect his career somewhere else. Good chance he could too, the way the Catching state is in the Majors, a .240 hitter is a Hall of Famer.

Swihart played catcher in HS. He was ranked as second best catcher in the draft prior to the draft.

[mvp 78]

https://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playerprofile.aspx?ID=65401

[Natick to NC]

I'm always going all in for this player ...the guy is a huge target to throw to ...he blocks the view of the ump and thus can fool the s*** out of umpires ...his swing is disgustingly good through the zone every talent evaluator say he will hit for average when given at bats at any level including the bigs ...Theo freaking loved Swihart and surely pushed before he left to replace Jason V ..looooooved this kid .Hes only 26 but in baseball years very little wear and tear maybe 23 ....Blake freaking Swihart has more talent in his left pig toe than Vaz could ever dream of having ....the guy throws 98 as a. HS pitcher ...the kid can run ....he has never shown power but my God he's got a swing that gives him atleast 20 plus as he ages at Fenway ..I don't give a f*** what's been said about his D ....That bastard caught a knuckleballer last night!!! For f***s sake Veritek couldn't do that. Edited May 19, 2018 by Natick to NC

[harmony]

Buster Posey was a shortstop through his freshman year at Florida State (and in a subsequent summer league) but converted to catcher in the 2006-07 school year at FSU..

 

By 2010 Posey was the catcher for the World Series champion San Francisco Giants.

 

Some converted catchers develop faster than others.

Edited May 19, 2018 by harmony

[a700hitter]

He should have never left. As predicted the day he was hired..,,DD has demolished our Farm. The hope was that the decimation would lead to a parade but that is still TBD.

So the scoreboard remains...Red Sox parades:

Ben = 1

DD = 0

Their employment status remains:

 

DD - GM of premier franchise

Cherries — Coffee boy for Canadian team.

[notin]

I'm always going all in for this player ...the guy is a huge target to throw to ...he blocks the view of the ump and thus can fool the s*** out of umpires ...his swing is disgustingly good through the zone every talent evaluator say he will hit for average when given at bats at any level including the bigs ...Theo freaking loved Swihart and surely pushed before he left to replace Jason V ..looooooved this kid .Hes only 26 but in baseball years very little wear and tear maybe 23 ....Blake freaking Swihart has more talent in his left pig toe than Vaz could ever dream of having ....the guy throws 98 as a. HS pitcher ...the kid can run ....he has never shown power but my God he's got a swing that gives him atleast 20 plus as he ages at Fenway ..I don't give a f*** what's been said about his D ....That bastard caught a knuckleballer last night!!! For f***s sake Veritek couldn't do that.

 

And yet still, with all that, our manager refuses to play him and our GM can't seem to work out a decent trade. If all this were true, you'd think at least 15 GMs would be making substantial offers by now. ..

[notin]

Their employment status remains:

 

DD - GM of premier franchise

Cherries — Coffee boy for Canadian team.

 

Neither title is correct.

 

Dombrowski is the President of Baseball Operations for the Red Sox

Cherington is the Vice President of Baseball Operations for the Blue Jays

[FredLynn]

And yet still, with all that, our manager refuses to play him and our GM can't seem to work out a decent trade. If all this were true, you'd think at least 15 GMs would be making substantial offers by now. ..

 

No GM is going to make a "substantial offer" for an unproven player. Swihart hasn't been given a reasonable chance to prove himself behind the plate, so he remains an unknown commodity. He deserves a chance to do that. The Red Sox should have done that long ago.

[notin]

No GM is going to make a "substantial offer" for an unproven player. Swihart hasn't been given a reasonable chance to prove himself behind the plate, so he remains an unknown commodity. He deserves a chance to do that. The Red Sox should have done that long ago.

 

An unproven commodity? That's not what that testimonial from Natick to NC said...

[jacksonianmarch]

Swihart is a dead man walking

[fxkatt]

At this moment is Vasquez or Leon the better defensively. I know that V lost some arm strength post-surgery, and that both catchers are better than average defensively. Gotta think one or the other will raise his averages above .210 at some point. And Pedroia will soon offer more offense at second base to make up for poor catcher hitting.

 

I wonder if the Mets (excess good pitching) is not a good fit for Swihart. They did have two injured catchers earlier... not sure they're back yet, tho.

[Natick to NC]

And yet still, with all that, our manager refuses to play him and our GM can't seem to work out a decent trade. If all this were true, you'd think at least 15 GMs would be making substantial offers by now. ..

 

Riiiiiiight keep telling yourself this .

[Natick to NC]

At this moment is Vasquez or Leon the better defensively. I know that V lost some arm strength post-surgery, and that both catchers are better than average defensively. Gotta think one or the other will raise his averages above .210 at some point. And Pedroia will soon offer more offense at second base to make up for poor catcher hitting.

 

I wonder if the Mets (excess good pitching) is not a good fit for Swihart. They did have two injured catchers earlier... not sure they're back yet, tho.

 

Can Vaz throw a 100 mph heater ???? Then no his arm is s*** compared to Swihart....Vaz is what 5 foot 8 ??? He looks like a munchkin back there ....Swihart is built like a brick s*** house and is 6 1 ....Blake caught Wright last night blocking a ball in the dirt on a nasty Knuckle ball ....Blake Swihart is our best chance at an elite hitting Catcher .

Edited May 19, 2018 by Natick to NC

[Natick to NC]

Swihart is a dead man walking

 

Don't be a cock punch .

[fxkatt]

Can Vaz throw a 100 mph heater ???? Then no his arm is s*** compared to Swihart....Vaz is what 5 foot 8 ??? He looks like a munchkin back there ....Swihart is built like a brick s*** house and is 6 1 ....Blake caught Wright last night blocking a ball in the dirt on a nasty Knuckle ball ....Blake Swihart is our best chance at an elite hitting Catcher .

 

Strange, I was quoting your one line and all of the above appeared. Anyway, I guess our starting--and relief, pitchers should maybe have the last word as to whom they'd rather pitch to. Can we poll each one of them?? Secret ballot. The results might be interesting, and I AS MANAGER would abide by the vote.

[Natick to NC]

Strange, I was quoting your one line and all of the above appeared. Anyway, I guess our starting--and relief, pitchers should maybe have the last word as to whom they'd rather pitch to. Can we poll each one of them?? Secret ballot. The results might be interesting, and I AS MANAGER would abide by the vote.

 

Are you serious ??? Helllll no !!! f*** all the players they want there buddy playing and a pussy ass manager if they can get it ...Swihart is the Alpha period.

[fxkatt]

Ha. Leon is the most alpha of our catchers..He outweighs Swihart by 50 pounds, and is one inch shorter. Have a drink on me.

[Bellhorn04]

Can Vaz throw a 100 mph heater ???? Then no his arm is s*** compared to Swihart....Vaz is what 5 foot 8 ??? He looks like a munchkin back there ....Swihart is built like a brick s*** house and is 6 1 ....Blake caught Wright last night blocking a ball in the dirt on a nasty Knuckle ball ....Blake Swihart is our best chance at an elite hitting Catcher .

 

You're being silly. Vazquez threw out 21 out of 50 who tried to steal on him last year.

[Natick to NC]

Ha. Leon is the most alpha of our catchers..He outweighs Swihart by 50 pounds, and is one inch shorter. Have a drink on me.

 

Dude if you think some fat puke like Vaz is an alpha of anything it's of munchkin land lol

[Natick to NC]

You're being silly. Vazquez threw out 21 out of 50 who tried to steal on him last year.

 

Look at his stats this year ...putrid ...his arm is s*** now he under throws and overthrows at will he's a hack and wouldn't start for 98 percent of teams .

[Natick to NC]

Ha. Leon is the most alpha of our catchers..He outweighs Swihart by 50 pounds, and is one inch shorter. Have a drink on me.

 

If you consider Archie Bunker alpha ???? Sure

[Spudboy]

1. He was called up well before he was ready (out of necessity). He did an admirable job considering, but being thrown into the fire before he was ready messed with his development.

 

2. In 2016, he was sent down after 6 freaking games. SIX! If that's not bad enough, the Sox then decided he was going to become a left fielder.

 

3. After healing from his injury, the Sox said they were committed to playing him only as a catcher. How long did that last? Next thing you know, he's going to be tried out at 1B, 3B, 2B, etc.

 

Now maybe he wasn't progressing as quickly as the Sox would have liked him to. I really don't know. But either way, he was not given a fair chance as a catcher.

 

Amen.

[Natick to NC]

My God this team is unstoppable if they give this guy a legit look ...I'm talking Legit look at Catcher .Give him the next month of Games ...it would pay off at the tune of a Worldseries title ....Ask his best friend Alex Bregman starting third base for the World Series Champs who the Redsox should be starting at Catcher....he would tell you 100 percent Blake and then the next thing he won't say .....We become the leaders in the clubhouse for..... World Series title .....

1. Betts RF

2.Xander SS

3.JD DH

4. Devers

5.Hanley or Mitch

6.Benny

7.swihart

8.Nuney

Edited May 19, 2018 by Natick to NC

[Kimmi]

OK, let's say they should have given Vaz a couple more weeks in AAA in 2016.

 

What should they have done with Swihart after those couple more weeks?

 

Sent him to AAA and worked on his development, solely as a catcher.

[Kimmi]

I’m not convinced it would’ve worked out antway. The Sox see Blake everyday, which is far more important than game reps.

 

It might not have worked out anyway. I can't argue with that.