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I hear you. I'm just saying that those prospects could have been used in the Sale trade (which may have allowed us to retain moncada).

Kimbrell was taking on salary + big time prospects. it should be one or the other. not both.

 

Given the current performance of the prospects DD surrendered, which player-Sale or Kimbrel-would you not have wanted on your team in exchange for those prospects?

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Given the current performance of the prospects DD surrendered, which player-Sale or Kimbrel-would you not have wanted on your team in exchange for those prospects?

 

the point im trying to make is we could have had both Sale & Kimbrell + still have moncada. DD overpaid for Kimbrell to begin with which used up prospects which led to having to use moncada to get sale.

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the point im trying to make is we could have had both Sale & Kimbrell + still have moncada. DD overpaid for Kimbrell to begin with which used up prospects which led to having to use moncada to get sale.

 

So who would we have traded for Kimbrel?

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Such nonsense. It is like debating whether someone overpaid for a Lamborghini and a Bugatti. f*** it. It doesn't matter. We have a Lambo and a Bugatti. Enjoy it. Who gives a f*** if the guys we traded ever do anything. They are not doing it now, and they didn't do it last year. In the meantime we are riding in the Bugatti and Lamborghini.
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So who would we have traded for Kimbrel?

 

We took the contract. so in terms of prospects - not much. but DD felt differently. he felt it took all the $$$ + good prospects.

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Such nonsense. It is like debating whether someone overpaid for a Lamborghini and a Bugatti. f*** it. It doesn't matter. We have a Lambo and a Bugatti. Enjoy it. Who gives a f*** if the guys we traded ever do anything. They are not doing it now, and they didn't do it last year. In the meantime we are riding in the Bugatti and Lamborghini.

 

i get what you are saying. but if we didn't overpay for that Lambo we would still have a prospect or 2 left to get the Ferrari.....

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i get what you are saying. but if we didn't overpay for that Lambo we would still have a prospect or 2 left to get the Ferrari.....
Where is there space in the garage for the Ferrari? There is no payroll available thanks to Ben's asshat budget choking contracts. As to the 8 guys on the field and the DH, we will have 11 players for 9 spots when Pedroia returns. No room there either.
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Price's velocity not only dropped when he changed his delivery, so did hid deceptions. Here's a link (if it works) showing different position of Lefty Grove.

 

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=lefty+grove%2C+pictures&fr=tightropetb&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsports.mearsonlineauctions.com%2FItemImages%2F000064%2F64688a_lg.jpeg#id=43&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fusatftw.files.wordpress.com%2F2015%2F04%2Fswp07_historygrove_18_36056893.jpg%3Fw%3D1000%26h%3D768&action=click

 

Can you imagine Lefty chamging what worked because he walked two or three guys per game? Feller, Johnson, etc did not piech from a strtech unless they absolutely had to! Get back where you were David, !

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We took the contract. so in terms of prospects - not much. but DD felt differently. he felt it took all the $$$ + good prospects.
Kimbrel is underpaid as an elite closer as proved by recent closer contracts.
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Kimbrel is underpaid as an elite closer as proved by recent closer contracts.

 

I think so too.

 

Kimbrel's contract was 2 years for 24 million plus an option year at 13 million.

 

Chapman got 86 million.

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Given the current performance of the prospects DD surrendered, which player-Sale or Kimbrel-would you not have wanted on your team in exchange for those prospects?

 

I wouldn't have made the Kimbrel deal. I admit it.

 

Not because I don't like Kimbrel as a pitcher, but because I would have preferred the team focus on building the rotation from something. I would have preferred to look for a closer (rarely the top need of a last place team) in free agency, avoided Price and his 7 year deal, and focused on finding a starter via trade.

 

Not sure what starters would be available for Margot, Guerra, Allen and Asuaje. But both Margot (BA 56, BP 14) and Guerra (BA 52, BP 56) were concensus top 100 prospects at the time, and were excellent bargaining chips. Allen and Asuaje were both decent additions, as well...

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Kimbrel is underpaid as an elite closer as proved by recent closer contracts.

 

Maybe that proves the others are overpaid. Depends on the way one looks at it.

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Price now is diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. I haven't as yet heard if he will need surgery to correct the problem. If he does, we will be without one of our hoped for starters again this year. The Price contract is looking pretty awful at this point in time.

 

Bill

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Kimbrel is underpaid as an elite closer as proved by recent closer contracts.

 

They should have given the Padres more prospects for him.

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Price now is diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. I haven't as yet heard if he will need surgery to correct the problem. If he does, we will be without one of our hoped for starters again this year. The Price contract is looking pretty awful at this point in time.

 

Bill

 

Seriously? Guess he needs to spend less time on Instagram.

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Carpal Tunnel Syndrome = dodging the Yankees series.

i would still rather have Clay on my team than this dude.....

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Carpal Tunnel Syndrome = dodging the Yankees series.

i would still rather have Clay on my team than this dude.....

 

Like choosing between Russian Roulette and playing checkers on the 405 in LA.

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Like choosing between Russian Roulette and playing checkers on the 405 in LA.

 

hahaha. i like the analogy. but only if the bullet in Russian Roulette costs $217MM....

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hahaha. i like the analogy. but only if the bullet in Russian Roulette costs $217MM....

 

And your arm gets really sore the second you pick up the gun.

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I am officially done with this donkey. We just saw Pom offer up what I have to call the most courageous pitching performance of the season so far into Video Game David. Go take a long walk off a short peer David.
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Such nonsense. It is like debating whether someone overpaid for a Lamborghini and a Bugatti. f*** it. It doesn't matter. We have a Lambo and a Bugatti. Enjoy it. Who gives a f*** if the guys we traded ever do anything. They are not doing it now, and they didn't do it last year. In the meantime we are riding in the Bugatti and Lamborghini.

 

It is as if I wrote this post!

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Such nonsense. It is like debating whether someone overpaid for a Lamborghini and a Bugatti. f*** it. It doesn't matter. We have a Lambo and a Bugatti. Enjoy it. Who gives a f*** if the guys we traded ever do anything. They are not doing it now, and they didn't do it last year. In the meantime we are riding in the Bugatti and Lamborghini.

 

By why not just have 25 different Ford Tauruses? That could be fun too!

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By why not just have 25 different Ford Tauruses? That could be fun too!

 

But only if they were SHOs.

 

Those cars were a blast to drive.

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I am officially done with this donkey. We just saw Pom offer up what I have to call the most courageous pitching performance of the season so far into Video Game David. Go take a long walk off a short peer David.

 

Pedroia?

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The rich irony?

 

It appears that this clown developed Carpal Tunnel Sybdrome while playing an insane amount of video games on his iPhone, while taking all that time off last year. When asked what his current rehab would look like, Price responded, "more video games man. What the hell else can I do?"

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I'm so f***ing sick of the ******** that is Price.

 

Clearly, he will never opt out. Fine. I accept that. BUT . . He will pay a heavy price for staying.

 

You want the f***ing bIG bucks from Sox fans? Ok.... but you damned well better deliver !

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I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, for the money your paying the diva u could have gone after Cueto and the Shark back in 16.

 

Cueto far better pitcher and the Shark although not an elite arm but has been durable and Both RHP.

 

Factor that in with Sale Pomeranz and Eddy R, far better starting 5 than what u have now!

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