2017/18 Hot Stove Thread

[Natick to NC]

Joe Kelly 3.5 roughly 2.2 for Holt JBJ 6 million ? And we have what 3 million to play with ? That would cover it and bring Prospects back if that's the route to restock the farm ....go 13 X 3 for Arietta ? .....Playoff rotation of Sale ,Price ,Arietta looks nice to me .What if we have a taker for Pokchop ?we pay half they get a CY winner two years removed ? .....then you keep JBJ and Kelly ..personally I'd jettison Porkchops contract in a cocaine heartbeat . Edited February 26, 2018 by Natick to NC

[mvp 78]

JBJ and Benny would have to in this scenario wouldn't they ??? Or is someone on the block ?I think several are up for sale but we will see.

 

Beni doesn't play RF tho? And I wouldn't put Betts or JBJ in LF.

[mvp 78]

Joe Kelly 3.5 roughly 2.2 for Holt JBJ 6 million ? And we have what 3 million to play with ? That would cover it and bring Prospects back if that's the route to restock the farm ....go 13 X 3 for Arietta ? .....Playoff rotation of Sale ,Price ,Arietta looks nice to me .What if we have a taker for Pokchop ?we pay half they get a CY winner two years removed ? .....then you keep JBJ and Kelly ...

 

I'd rather have JBJ than Arrieta.

[Natick to NC]

....MVP I hear ya ....I just remember that rotation last year folding in the playoffs ....Arietta is a big body weird delivery guy ...I just trust this player in the playoffs more than JBJ ...JBJ is an incredible fielder one of the best I've ever seen...This is about rings for me ...JBJ is like pokey Reese to me ...yes he's amaaaaaazing but wow is he just a late game defensive replacement in the crunch ? Maybe maybe not ? I know what Jake is .best case is trade Porkchop keep JBJ and have them both .

[mvp 78]

Who is porkchop?

[Emp9]

I’m guessing Holt by proccess of elimination... but I really don’t know either. :/

[Bellhorn04]

Who is porkchop?

 

Porcello I figure.

[Natick to NC]

Porcello I figure.

 

Yes

[Emp9]

Well, at least we’ve cleared that up.

 

Really? What if Porkchop is f***in’ money this year? It cld happen..

[Bellhorn04]

Well, at least we’ve cleared that up.

 

Really? What if Porkchop is f***in’ money this year? It cld happen..

 

As you know message board posters have crystal balls.

[moonslav59]

Are we really done this offseason ??? Sure sounded like JD may play 60 games in RF ....are we really done ?I don't think so bet we will see the next ten days .The fact remains we would need to toss another 10 to 15 million in payroll to even get Jake ...I think he's worth every penny .

 

Yes, we are done.

 

JD will not play RF in Fenway.

[Natick to NC]

Still winning this thing with or without Jake .I want Porcello to kill it but wow has he sucked in the playoffs .not convinced Sandy doesn't suck at calling games either . Edited February 26, 2018 by Natick to NC

[mvp 78]

Well, at least we’ve cleared that up.

 

Really? What if Porkchop is f***in’ money this year? It cld happen..

 

It's more likely than Hanley returning to form IMO.

[mvp 78]

Still winning this thing with or without Jake .I want Porcello to kill it but wow has he sucked in the playoffs .not convinced Sandy doesn't suck at calling games either .

 

3.88 career FIP in the postseason.

 

4.02 career FP in the regular season.

 

SSS

[Emp9]

As you know message board posters have crystal balls.

 

Balls of crystal, got it.

[Kimmi]

One of the stranger trends this off-season was to sign injured pitchers to low money two year deals, knowing full well the pitcher would not pitch at all the first season. The goal is to get a single season put of a good pitcher at a lower AAV. Michael Pineda and Drew Smyly both received such deals from the Twins and Cubs respectively.

 

With that in mind, two important facts.

 

1. Craig Kimbrel is a free agent after this year.

2. Trevor Rosenthal is injured and unlikely to pitch this season. ..

 

If we can afford him in terms of luxury tax, sign me up.

[a700hitter]

Major penalties for going over $40M over.

Do they have enough payroll left to sign Arrieta?

[mvp 78]

Do they have enough payroll left to sign Arrieta?

 

No.

[moonslav59]

Do they have enough payroll left to sign Arrieta?

 

We have $4-6M left, depending on mid season call-ups and contractual offsets and bonuses.

 

That might get us a 2 month rental in July.

[jacksonianmarch]

I learned that you need to set aside a fair amount for medical and bonuses. This is why NYY is $15 mil below but the real number available is somewhere around $7 mil

[Bellhorn04]

I learned that you need to set aside a fair amount for medical and bonuses. This is why NYY is $15 mil below but the real number available is somewhere around $7 mil

 

That's all factored into the Cot's Contracts tax numbers.

[MADSTORK]

We have $4-6M left, depending on mid season call-ups and contractual offsets and bonuses.

 

That might get us a 2 month rental in July.

 

You can thank Cherington for the 4 to 6 mill left !

 

Your paying for all three stiffs who now have you Cap strapped in Rick, Pablo and Hanley

[Kimmi]

You can thank Cherington for the 4 to 6 mill left !

 

Your paying for all three stiffs who now have you Cap strapped in Rick, Pablo and Hanley

 

Rick? As in Porcello?

[Hitch]

Rick? As in Porcello?

 

Don't bite Kimmi

[Natick to NC]

Rick? As in Porcello?

 

Kimmi ,Porkchop is a career 5 era who melts like velveta with any sign of trouble ...his contract is horrrrrrific and should be jettisoned the minute someone is willing to pay half .A 10 million dollar cushion from that trade would get you Lance Lynn,Cobb or Arietta ....Heck if we go right up against the tax with getting rid of Matt Damon I mean Holt on top of that trade ? We can get Lynn and Cobb....I prefer Arietta ....

Edited February 28, 2018 by Natick to NC

[moonslav59]

Kimmi ,Porkchop is a career 5 era who melts like velveta with any sign of trouble ...his contract is horrrrrrific and should be jettisoned the minute someone is willing to pay half .

 

Gross hyperbole.

 

He's never even had a season over 5.00. let alone a career ERA of that. (It's 4.25.)

 

He's been under 3.44 in two of the last his last 4 seasons of his prime years.

[Natick to NC]

4.65 era in 17 moon ..he's a 4.5 guy who is not I repeat not worth his contract

[Emp9]

4.65 era in 17 moon ..he's a 4.5 guy who is not I repeat not worth his contract

 

Devil’s advocate... few are, I’ll repeat, ... few are.

[Natick to NC]

4.6 era in 17 moon and his second strait dumpster fire playoff appearance ...soured me....The 21 million this year and 21 million next is disgusting .Moon you are right he's not a 5 era guy it was gross hyperbole but dammmmn that's a lot of money for average .....I just read this ....it's over the top .The man did win a CY and helped deliver 2 division titles ...He's not a garbage pitcher he's just a conundrum inside a tube stuffed and shot out of a cylinder....He's Clay 2.0 except clay was huge in the playoffs . Edited February 28, 2018 by Natick to NC

[Natick to NC]

I just think he's Infuriating . Edited February 28, 2018 by Natick to NC