Definitive, sustantiated role of Pedroia in Price/Eck incident

[Elktonnick]

This has become not about Price, Eckersley nor Pedroia. The media has its sights set on Farrell. They want Farrell gone IMHO

[a700hitter]

This has become not about Price, Eckersley nor Pedroia. The media has its sights set on Farrell. They want Farrell gone IMHO

probably a good theory.

[notin]

The time to complain about people being *******s is ALWAYS. The most important thing in this world is to be a genuinely good person.

 

And as far as I know, there are no current Sox players with domestic violence, sex assault, DUI, firearm or other nonsense going on.

 

But this is a witch hunt, pure and simple. The existence of this thread and the role of Pedroia not only proves that, but also shows how effective it is....

[cp176]

But this is a witch hunt, pure and simple. The existence of this thread and the role of Pedroia not only proves that, but also shows how effective it is....

 

I just listened to Pedroia's interview. He is a man - he stood up like one - he answered all questions as well as he could. he says he is the leader. he says that Price will talk with Eck when he sees him. He says that Price is one of his most favorite teammates ever. He says that the team is not distracted and that they love each other. he says that they are focused. I am a fan - that is it - I am ok with him and what he said. Actually I am more than ok with it. A non-story - yup- leave it alone. That statement really is meant for the media and not for us. Move on!

[Jack Flap]

Once again, I don't disagree with really anything that you have said here but I'm going to hold the line I'm walking on all the way - This was a story that we did not need to know anything about. It became news because it was not handled properly from the beginning. Management gets a big fat 0 for the way they handled this one. Everyone is in an uproar and no one other than the people on the plane no the real facts of the story.

 

I can agree with most of this as well. What should have been a blip on the radar has been allowed to snowball thanks to Farrell's failure to handle the situation.

 

Pedroia's words today were encouraging. Get Price and Eckersley together, squash the damn thing, and move on. I'm a lot more worried about Price's health and what it means for our postseason chances at this point...

[Gringo]

If Lance McCullers told Nolan Ryan to f*** off on an airplane, it'd be a story in Houston, too, so IMO, this isn't just about the swarming Boston media, the story has legit play. Who leaked the story to begin with, and why? Ooh, the intrigue.

[a700hitter]

If Lance McCullers told Nolan Ryan to f*** off on an airplane, it'd be a story in Houston, too, so IMO, this isn't just about the swarming Boston media, the story has legit play. Who leaked the story to begin with, and why? Ooh, the intrigue.

Ryan is an owner.

[cp176]

If Lance McCullers told Nolan Ryan to f*** off on an airplane, it'd be a story in Houston, too, so IMO, this isn't just about the swarming Boston media, the story has legit play. Who leaked the story to begin with, and why? Ooh, the intrigue.

 

It is a joke and should be a non-story but with so many people thinking that our hitters are just underperforming so, it has become a scapegoat theory. There must be something wrong with them. That terrible incident on the team plane has to be the reason we just can't hit. It is once again a joke. They aren't that good. I applaud the moves made by DD and his efforts to build up our pitching core and solidify things defensively, but many of us did not have the great faith that by not replacing Ortiz our little hitters would be able score the runs necessary to win at this level. They have to work twice as hard to score.

[jacksonianmarch]

So many people on this site said that the sox O would be fine without Ortiz. You might be having some revisionism here.

[jad]

It's hard to see how this explains their performance. I can't imagine anyone going to the plate thinking, "I love Eck, thus I can't hit" or "Price really showed that guy ... I thus can't hit." I assume in baseball when you're at the plate, you're only thinking of yourself, not team 'chemistry'. The issue to me has nothing to do with performance. It's simply a question of whether multi-millionaire celebrities (in sports, entertainment, or government) are going to held to the same basic standards of civil behavior as the rest of us.

[Bellhorn04]

Price actually pitched great his first few starts after the incident. That was back before the intrepid Mr. Shaughnessy elevated it to firestorm status.

[notin]

It's hard to see how this explains their performance. I can't imagine anyone going to the plate thinking, "I love Eck, thus I can't hit" or "Price really showed that guy ... I thus can't hit." I assume in baseball when you're at the plate, you're only thinking of yourself, not team 'chemistry'. The issue to me has nothing to do with performance. It's simply a question of whether multi-millionaire celebrities (in sports, entertainment, or government) are going to held to the same basic standards of civil behavior as the rest of us.

 

It doesn't affect performance and the standards are higher....

[Kimmi]

I would first like to say that I am pleased with Pedroia facing the media and speaking for the team.

 

As far as Price is concerned, I won't excuse his behavior. That said, when he was first signed, a big part of his appeal was his supposed leadership and presence in the clubhouse. Also, throughout last season when he was not pitching up to expectations, he owned up to it. He never made excuses and usually said something along the lines of "I have to do better".

 

It seems to me that comments during the postseason and offseason have somewhat embittered him to the Twitter crowd and the media. He reacted poorly.

 

But I can't imagine that he has suddenly become a horrible teammate or less of leader.

[Kimmi]

It's hard to see how this explains their performance. I can't imagine anyone going to the plate thinking, "I love Eck, thus I can't hit" or "Price really showed that guy ... I thus can't hit." I assume in baseball when you're at the plate, you're only thinking of yourself, not team 'chemistry'. The issue to me has nothing to do with performance. It's simply a question of whether multi-millionaire celebrities (in sports, entertainment, or government) are going to held to the same basic standards of civil behavior as the rest of us.

 

The performance was already not up to expectations when this story resurfaced.

 

However, I disagree that this type of media circus does not affect performance.

[notin]

If Lance McCullers told Nolan Ryan to f*** off on an airplane, it'd be a story in Houston, too, so IMO, this isn't just about the swarming Boston media, the story has legit play. Who leaked the story to begin with, and why? Ooh, the intrigue.

 

Several years ago, then Cubs manager Dusty Baker ripped color man Steve Stone on an airplane and complained about Stone to ownership. That was Stone's last season doing Cubs' games.

 

Did you hear about it?

[notin]

And yea this is about th re Boston media. Fans like Eckersley. When Sox players rip someone Shaughnessy, its Shaughnessy who winds up with the funny nickname. Edited July 29, 2017 by notin

[dgalehouse]

What Price did was uncalled for and unacceptable. He was 1000% wrong. No amount of spin can change that. He needs to apologize. Then we move on. As for the other players ; most of them have underperformed pretty much all year. There must be a reason for that, but I have no idea what it is. Farrell and the coaches should have some clue. Do they?

[Northern Star]

Just let it go.

 

Man, this town is tough.

 

Everyone and everything is under a million microscopes.

 

or a magnifying glass in this case.

[cp176]

So many people on this site said that the sox O would be fine without Ortiz. You might be having some revisionism here.

 

Actually there were quite a few people here that absolutely believed that this offense was suspect coming into the season.

[cp176]

What Price did was uncalled for and unacceptable. He was 1000% wrong. No amount of spin can change that. He needs to apologize. Then we move on. As for the other players ; most of them have underperformed pretty much all year. There must be a reason for that, but I have no idea what it is. Farrell and the coaches should have some clue. Do they?

 

We can all have our opinions regarding what was said and done but when we start assuming that we we really know what happened we are making a mistake. That is meddling. Once again, it should have been dealt with on the plane and ended. It is none of our business. Two grown men perhaps will at some pint sit down and discuss what happened between them. The best thing a fan can do right now is stay out of their business and do what fans are supposed to do.

[notin]

What Price did was uncalled for and unacceptable. He was 1000% wrong. No amount of spin can change that. He needs to apologize. Then we move on. As for the other players ; most of them have underperformed pretty much all year. There must be a reason for that, but I have no idea what it is. Farrell and the coaches should have some clue. Do they?

 

Sure Price was out of line and should be accountable. But how is that the business of anyone except Price and Eckersley?

[notin]

we can all have our opinions regarding what was said and done but when we start assuming that we we really know what happened we are making a mistake. That is meddling. Once again, it should have been dealt with on the plane and ended. It is none of our business. Two grown men perhaps will at some pint sit down and discuss what happened between them. The best thing a fan can do right now is stay out of their business and do what fans are supposed to do.

 

this!!!^^^

[Bellhorn04]

Sure Price was out of line and should be accountable. But how is that the business of anyone except Price and Eckersley?

 

It's everybody's business now because the story got out and it's the internet age. At the least, Farrell probably should have realized this was going to become a problem and he and Price should have both personally apologized.

[cp176]

this!!!^^^

 

Thanks notin - We all love this team and lifelong fans probably do feel as though it is in some way or another our team. The Red Sox really are fortunate that they have such a passionate fan base. When I hear people talk about how tough it is to play in Boston, I can't help but think that it is always tough to play somewhere that you are expected to win. It is a good thing for the most part but it can get messy sometimes I guess.

[cp176]

It's everybody's business now because the story got out and it's the internet age. At the least, Farrell probably should have realized this was going to become a problem and he and Price should have both personally apologized.

 

 

For all of the good that people think has come from the internet age there are still times that maybe we actually might be better off without it.

[notin]

It's everybody's business now because the story got out and it's the internet age. At the least, Farrell probably should have realized this was going to become a problem and he and Price should have both personally apologized.

 

So that argument hinges on just because people know about something, it becomes their business?

[Bellhorn04]

So that argument hinges on just because people know about something, it becomes their business?

 

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that's the way this s*** works now, so it's up to Farrell to know how to manage it so it doesn't disrupt his team.

[jad]

I see Price came out today admitting (supposedly) he didn't handle things well last year. He is now waiting for Eck to reach out to him to clear the air. (Doesn't sound to me like much has changed). Apparently Eck needs to apologize for getting on the plane and subjecting himself to abuse from this a-hole, and Price is generously willing to at least discuss it.

[cp176]

I see Price came out today admitting (supposedly) he didn't handle things well last year. He is now waiting for Eck to reach out to him to clear the air. (Doesn't sound to me like much has changed). Apparently Eck needs to apologize for getting on the plane and subjecting himself to abuse from this a-hole, and Price is generously willing to at least discuss it.

 

Hey jad - crap happens! Give the guy a break and lets see what happens. He still can throw the ball and he is going to be here for a number of years. We need his arm to get it done.

[jad]

Ha! Blessedly, I don't think any professional athlete gives a crap what I think! So I can consider him a p.o.s. as a person, and still hope he gets his location back.