Should Jackie Bradley Jr be traded?

[Natick to NC]

Just to clarify - Are you just funning me or do really believe what you are saying here about JBJ and how he would have played in 1975? Not to be contrary but I really hope you don't mean this.

 

CP .....coooooome onnnn lol

[Spudboy]

Jackie quietly is getting hot.

 

He is making productive contact.

 

Not the hard contact in the gap or off the wall that we have seen in the past but I have confidence we will see it soon and often enough.

 

This thread has run it's course.

[cp176]

CP .....coooooome onnnn lol

 

i just don't get it!

[iortiz]

He is making productive contact.

 

Not the hard contact in the gap or off the wall that we have seen in the past but I have confidence we will see it soon and often enough.

 

This thread has run it's course.

 

Agreed Spud. Kid is going to be ok.

[Natick to NC]

i just don't get it!

 

.......sarcasm man ...good night !!!!

[moonslav59]

Jackie quietly is getting hot.

 

Yes, and who better to start getting hot against but the Skankees?

[moonslav59]

These "big three" have carried the offense, and the rest are pretty well bunched up between .592 and .733:

 

1.111 Boget (DL)

1.085 Betts

.964 HRam (leads league in RBI with 12)

 

.733 Beni

.725 JMart (10 rbi)

.715 Devers (10 rbi)

.714 Nunez

.607 JBJ

.602 Moreland

.592 Vaz

 

.348 Holt

.286 Leon

[Slasher9]

This isn't true. If you plug in his current numbers and prorate it for the remainder of the season, he ends up being a -1.5 WAR player including his defense. As long as his OPS is above .550, he's at least replacement level. Below that, he's not a AAAA guy. His bare minimum should be .650 to be a starter and bat 9th.

 

His offense isn't as bad as it looks right now, but his defense isn't the greatest the league has ever seen.

 

what's true is that even with his ever present lack of offense since he became a starting position player in the MLB - he has never had a negative WAR for a season. His defense is that good. ask Sale what he thinks.

but yes, please prorate his WAR from 10 games for the entire season.

[Natick to NC]

This thread should be locked today .JBJ is getting the job done and so is Rick Porcello ..Until they prove otherwise lock this please .

[Slasher9]

You said "why choose to trade the only one of the three that at least can field?"

 

Moreland can certainly field his position.

 

HanRam can field Morelands position too.

[mvp 78]

what's true is that even with his ever present lack of offense since he became a starting position player in the MLB - he has never had a negative WAR for a season. His defense is that good. ask Sale what he thinks.

but yes, please prorate his WAR from 10 games for the entire season.

 

You said that if he didn't hit, that he'd still be a valuable player. It's just not true. He needs to hit a little.

[mvp 78]

HanRam can field Morelands position too.

 

Hanley is looking better at 1b this year than he did at any point in 2016.

[Slasher9]

You said that if he didn't hit, that he'd still be a valuable player. It's just not true. He needs to hit a little.

 

point taken. i def took liberties saying he doesnt need to get another hit.

[Natick to NC]

Hanley played SS ...I never had a doubt he would be just fine at 1b

[Slasher9]

This thread should be locked today .JBJ is getting the job done and so is Rick Porcello ..Until they prove otherwise lock this please .

 

unfortunately the very next time JBj goes 0-4 with 2k's some posters will be demanding he be platooned, benched, released, or traded.

[mvp 78]

If you're going to trade JBJ, you do it in the offseason. Right now, he is what he is. I'm just waiting for his annual 30 day stretch of awesomeness.

[Bellhorn04]

If you're going to trade JBJ, you do it in the offseason. Right now, he is what he is. I'm just waiting for his annual 30 day stretch of awesomeness.

 

He's gonna be more consistent this year, mvp, you just watch...

 

His K/BB ratio is looking much better this year, at least.

[mvp 78]

He's gonna be more consistent this year, mvp, you just watch...

 

His K/BB ratio is looking much better this year, at least.

 

If he can get that K% under 20, I'll be very happy. I think his production last year is probably his floor. If he can at least maintain that, he's good with me.

[moonslav59]

what's true is that even with his ever present lack of offense since he became a starting position player in the MLB - he has never had a negative WAR for a season. His defense is that good. ask Sale what he thinks.

but yes, please prorate his WAR from 10 games for the entire season.

 

He's up to 0.0 now in fWAR.

[mvp 78]

Bradley has started the season swinging at more pitching in the zone and fewer pitches out of the zone. There are a lot of other good indications for JBJ, but it's still early.

[moonslav59]

Bradley has started the season swinging at more pitching in the zone and fewer pitches out of the zone. There are a lot of other good indications for JBJ, but it's still early.

 

I've always liked his swing, although it looks too "long".

 

I hope he heats it up and keeps it going for longer stretches.

[cp176]

If you're going to trade JBJ, you do it in the offseason. Right now, he is what he is. I'm just waiting for his annual 30 day stretch of awesomeness.

 

 

You should now by now that if you don't prove on here that you absolutely love JBJ and all things about him then you must hate him.

I just would like to know who these people are who want to see him traded right now. I've asked numerous times for anyone who doesn't think that he is our best option in center field at this time to speak up but no one ever speaks up.

[moonslav59]

Well, now that he's got a 2 game sample size showing he's getting hot, it's all hush now.

 

Found these from the first page of this thread:

 

Yes his Glove is nice but we need to cash in while we can. I wanted to trade him in off season but not a lot of people agreed with that and if last year was a fluke and he really cant hit, were screwed. -Stephen Curry

 

Should have traded him this past offseason, when his value was at its highest. I thought that even at the time (though I didn't say it on here, because I only began posting a few weeks ago). He is wayyyyyyy too streaky and has been a bad or mediocre hitter for longer than he's been a good hitter.... -tombirner

 

I wanted to trade him as well--just had a bad feeling about the guy and, yes, he is way too streaky. They could have moved Benintendi to CF and brought in an offensive upgrade at LF. It is possible that another team would have overpaid for Bradley, coveting his OF defense. It is too late to trade him now--his value is too low due to his slump. If he breaks out of it, I would consider trading him.... -Fan_Since_Boggs

 

I think JBJ is one of the best defensive players in the league and his offensive showing when hot indicates he could hit. I long ago identified what I thought was his hitting issues and noted earlier this year that despite his statement to the contrary, he really did not change his hitting mechanics. Should he go with someone who would get his attention and have him try a shorter and more compact swing, he might hit very well indeed. In my opinion, the Sox should talk seriously with him about his career and get Chili Davis to do a swing makeover. The time to have done that was the off season, so now he is in a position where he is hurting the team and his trade value is minimal. -Oldtimer

 

JBJ can't hit. Who waits for a guy to get "streaky". That's crazy. And is far from the best defensive outfit in baseball. He is smooth. He gets a good jump on the ball, then tthrows it to the wrong base---off line. No, his defense is very much over rated. Watch the guy from the Rays, for example. As under rated as JBJ is over rated. Spectacular plays, yes. Of any value a this time. No. Before the season gegan I lobbied (daily) for the Sox to get rid of him. My thought was to bring back Swihart as the left fielder. Put Benni in center. Swiahart has, I think, given up. The last time I looked, he was hitting about .200. So I was right and I was wrong. Par for the course. -bosoxmal

 

In response to this: Quote Originally Posted by Fisk View Post

Trading JBJ would be crazy, great center fielder and when he gets hot he can carry the team.

 

His slumps are too severe and prolonged. a700hitter

 

Just pointing out that the first page looks a lot different than this last one. (No surprise.)

[cp176]

still looking for that one special gem that says he should be benched or traded right now.

[Slasher9]

still looking for that one special gem that says he should be benched or traded right now.

 

Hey CP. just look at any of the first 10 game threads.

[mvp 78]

Well, now that he's got a 2 game sample size showing he's getting hot, it's all hush now.

 

Found these from the first page of this thread:

 

Yes his Glove is nice but we need to cash in while we can. I wanted to trade him in off season but not a lot of people agreed with that and if last year was a fluke and he really cant hit, were screwed. -Stephen Curry

 

Should have traded him this past offseason, when his value was at its highest. I thought that even at the time (though I didn't say it on here, because I only began posting a few weeks ago). He is wayyyyyyy too streaky and has been a bad or mediocre hitter for longer than he's been a good hitter.... -tombirner

 

I wanted to trade him as well--just had a bad feeling about the guy and, yes, he is way too streaky. They could have moved Benintendi to CF and brought in an offensive upgrade at LF. It is possible that another team would have overpaid for Bradley, coveting his OF defense. It is too late to trade him now--his value is too low due to his slump. If he breaks out of it, I would consider trading him.... -Fan_Since_Boggs

 

I think JBJ is one of the best defensive players in the league and his offensive showing when hot indicates he could hit. I long ago identified what I thought was his hitting issues and noted earlier this year that despite his statement to the contrary, he really did not change his hitting mechanics. Should he go with someone who would get his attention and have him try a shorter and more compact swing, he might hit very well indeed. In my opinion, the Sox should talk seriously with him about his career and get Chili Davis to do a swing makeover. The time to have done that was the off season, so now he is in a position where he is hurting the team and his trade value is minimal. -Oldtimer

 

JBJ can't hit. Who waits for a guy to get "streaky". That's crazy. And is far from the best defensive outfit in baseball. He is smooth. He gets a good jump on the ball, then tthrows it to the wrong base---off line. No, his defense is very much over rated. Watch the guy from the Rays, for example. As under rated as JBJ is over rated. Spectacular plays, yes. Of any value a this time. No. Before the season gegan I lobbied (daily) for the Sox to get rid of him. My thought was to bring back Swihart as the left fielder. Put Benni in center. Swiahart has, I think, given up. The last time I looked, he was hitting about .200. So I was right and I was wrong. Par for the course. -bosoxmal

 

In response to this: Quote Originally Posted by Fisk View Post

Trading JBJ would be crazy, great center fielder and when he gets hot he can carry the team.

 

His slumps are too severe and prolonged. a700hitter

 

Just pointing out that the first page looks a lot different than this last one. (No surprise.)

 

And if JBJ is still OPS'ing below 600 next month, we'll probably see people thinking he needs to be gone. The only problem is that RIGHT NOW, nobody is clamoring for him to get out of here.

 

I think people last year were stating that they should have traded him after his big 2016 season when his stock was never higher. His stock wasn't exactly very high this past offseason.

[OH FOY]

He cant catch up to Fastballs because of his long swing. Wish the Sox bring in Al Oliver to work with his swing. Perfect swing for LHB, who is not huge.

Center and Left, he'll hit .280 at least. Pull and sit.

Here's a nice long swing by #8

Edited April 13, 2018 by OH FOY!

[Bellhorn04]

He cant catch up to Fastballs because of his long swing. Wish the Sox bring in Al Oliver to work with his swing. Perfect swing for LHB, who is not huge.

Center and Left, he'll hit .280 at least. Pull and sit.

Here's a nice long swing by #8

 

Bradley singled off a 97.2 FB by Chapman in Wednesday's game.

[Natick to NC]

I think he's got an odd swing honestly and his head and eyes rarely watch the ball impact the bat ...I'm not saying that's a huge issue with some players ...with Bradley I'd try to teach him basics ....see ball hit ball ...the man rarely sees it and it's a miracle he hits over 200 ..Coaching and drive should have nipped that bud along time ago .For JBJ to really turn a corner I'd like to see eyes on that ball all the way in ...in my opinion he could be a perennial 285 hitter with 20 jacks easy ....but without this ? He's a lost puppy .When JBJ is going good he acknowledges this basic of basic practices . Edited April 13, 2018 by Natick to NC

[moonslav59]

I think he's got an odd swing honestly and his head and eyes rarely watch the ball impact the bat ...I'm not saying that's a huge issue with some players ...with Bradley I'd try to teach him basics ....see ball hit ball ...the man rarely sees it and it's a miracle he hits over 200 ..Coaching and drive should have nipped that bud along time ago .For JBJ to really turn a corner I'd like to see eyes on that ball all the way in ...in my opinion he could be a perennial 285 hitter with 20 jacks easy ....but without this ? He's a lost puppy .

 

I like his swing, even though it's too "long".

 

I don't see his head getting in front of his bat as often as you do, but I'll look more closely from now on.