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I replied to the comment that we didn't have any prospects for CF in the minors. I pointed out the best prospect we have and identified his weaknesses. I didn't say he was ready to replace JBJ, but you hear what you want to hear and react accordingly.

 

But a replacement for Bradley was what the post was about, specifically a replacement for Bradley if he performed at a certain level.

 

The Sox best lineup right now features Bradley in CF. I don't see why people want to bench him in order to get more plate appearances for Mitch Moreland, who is barely a better hitter, all while weakening the team defensively in two outfield positions (but upgrading 1b defense).

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For all the arguments of JBJ's defense being overrated and him rated 11th or whatever, one of those 10 outfielders ahead of him isn't a replacement option. I just don't see how taking him out of the lineup and either inserting Moreland in (with JD as a full time OF) or starting Swihart full time is worth it. With the options we currently have, I don't see how benching JBJ or trading him without acquiring another OF (and this doesn't really makes sense either) will make the team better. Moreland isn't an elite offensive player, he's mediocre at best (and has been worse than JBJ so far for these SSS loving people) and JD is horrible in the outfield. Swihart is mostly an unknown, who hasn't prove anything.

 

Its a joke this gets discussed literally every year when JBJ starts slow. Trading him when he is slumping in the middle of the season makes literally no sense.

 

Exactly.

 

Bradley isn't the best Sox CF ever and isn't the best defensive CF in baseball, or even in the AL East. But he is the best all around option for this team and starts in their best lineup. Whether you like his streaky hitting or not, this team is 8-1 when he isn't hitting. Imagine how good they can be when he is...

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But a replacement for Bradley was what the post was about, specifically a replacement for Bradley if he performed at a certain level.

 

The Sox best lineup right now features Bradley in CF. I don't see why people want to bench him in order to get more plate appearances for Mitch Moreland, who is barely a better hitter, all while weakening the team defensively in two outfield positions (but upgrading 1b defense).

 

I'm not a huge JBJ fan, but the best Sox lineup so far has been:

 

Mookie RF

Beni LF

Hanley 1B

JD DH

Bogey SS

Devers 3B

Nunez 2B

Vaz C

JBJ CF

 

I think you play JBJ as much as you can and see if he can hit his way out of the funk.

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Last year, of the 62 AL OF with at least 200 PAs, Bradley ranked 44th in OPS. On the other hand, he ranked 15th in WAR. I do not value WAR as much as more objective data since WAR relies too much on subjective defensive metrics. Still, its obvious that Bradley is a very good defensive OF. There has to be a floor below which he should be removed from the lineup. So far this year his OPS is .399 with an OPS+ of 15. That is clearly below that floor. I have seen little evidence that he, as you put it, "will get better" so far. Where that floor is is the fodder for debate.

 

It's. Nine. Games.

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And the Sox are 8-1.

 

Yes.

 

Bradley has a lot of Mike Napoli (stylewise, not the raw power clearly) in him as a hitter. The production is streaky. He does not make a lot of contact, but his approach gets him on base enough that the dry spells are not dehabilitating. And when he hits it, it's usually with some authority. It makes him both effective over the long run and extremely maddening on a day to day basis.

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i'm changing my stance. he no longer needs to bat .100 for me.

JBj can go 0-for the rest of the season and he starts every game in CF for me. i dont care if he ever gets another hit....

his D is that important. ask Sale, Price what they think. bet they give the same answer as slasher....

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JBJ is the best option we have RIGHT NOW. I don't see changing him out with anyone we have on the team RIGHT NOW . Our team has only played teams from Florida this year RIGHT NOW. I don't even see the JBJ issue being the most pressing issue on the team RIGHT NOW. I'm not considering his start to the year RIGHT NOW, it's more what he has done in his past and what I think he will bring THIS YEAR. He's the best defensive center fielder I've ever seen on the Sox. It's just if he doesn't have his one month of hitting his defense doesn't make him valuable and I one year when he went ape s*** at the plate the whole team was feasting off crap pitching at the same time in a situation where the team was already slated for last place.

 

Has the guy ever done anything in the playoffs? By september they throw him something that breaks outside and he takes a swing that makes you wonder how he ever made it to the majors.

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I replied to the comment that we didn't have any prospects for CF in the minors. I pointed out the best prospect we have and identified his weaknesses. I didn't say he was ready to replace JBJ, but you hear what you want to hear and react accordingly.

 

It's a Talksox specialty.

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It's a Talksox specialty.

 

That one does deserve an lol particularly when one of the nicest posters says it. There was a clear message there.

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So as near I has I can figure there what might be one person if that on here who doesn't realize that JBJ is currently our best option in centerfield. Sticking with the thread has really never been strictly adhered to when the discussion generated in the thread is good. To answer the question should he be traded now - pretty unlikely that it would happen right now I'd say. If he continues his streaky ways, sure I could see it happening unless he wound up signing an extremely good home town contract. He is the best we got right now but every aspect of his game probably could be replaced whether we like the guy or not - that's just the way it goes.
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Exactly.

 

Bradley isn't the best Sox CF ever and isn't the best defensive CF in baseball, or even in the AL East. But he is the best all around option for this team and starts in their best lineup. Whether you like his streaky hitting or not, this team is 8-1 when he isn't hitting. Imagine how good they can be when he is...

 

There will come a point, perhaps, if Bradley cannot snap out of where he is at, when a replacement will be needed. That time is not now. It might be in June or so. For now, he plays, and we can all cringe when his turn to bat comes up.

Yes...imagine how good we could be with a CF who can actually hit the baseball AND play an acceptable CF. Love to see it.

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Now I am really starting to get pissed about this whole topic. I am an angry man. If we just hadn't traded Margot for that Kimbrel guy we could have somebody else who could get it done in cf. can't imagine anybody wanting to trade away a prospect like this Margot for a relief pitcher. lol (sarcasm alert for those with no sense of humor)
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Now I am really starting to get pissed about this whole topic. I am an angry man. If we just hadn't traded Margot for that Kimbrel guy we could have somebody else who could get it done in cf. can't imagine anybody wanting to trade away a prospect like this Margot for a relief pitcher. lol (sarcasm alert for those with no sense of humor)

 

This Sox team will fall on it's face this season because we have Moreland on the roster.

 

Clearly this team would be glory bound if it had Moose at 3rd and Devers at 1st with Duda or Morrison riding the pine.

 

How can Dombrowski be so stupid?

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This Sox team will fall on it's face this season because we have Moreland on the roster.

 

Clearly this team would be glory bound if it had Moose at 3rd and Devers at 1st with Duda or Morrison riding the pine.

 

How can Dombrowski be so stupid?

 

Honestly, the roster should be:

 

DH: JD

1B: Hanley/Duda/LoMo/Devers

2B: Nunez

SS: Xander

3B: Bullwinkle

RF: Betts

CF: JBJ

LF: Beni

C: Leon/Vazquez/Swihart

 

What was DD thinking? That's probably not enough people to catch or play 1B though. May have to re-sign Mitch and only have 10 pitchers.

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Honestly, the roster should be:

 

DH: JD

1B: Hanley/Duda/LoMo/Devers

2B: Nunez

SS: Xander

3B: Bullwinkle

RF: Betts

CF: JBJ

LF: Beni

C: Leon/Vazquez/Swihart

 

What was DD thinking? That's probably not enough people to catch or play 1B though. May have to re-sign Mitch and only have 10 pitchers.

 

that friggin third baseman will always be number one in my heart but no love for Rocky?

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Boris is a friggin' statue in the outfield.

 

 

He couldn't field worth a crap but I think that he was a hitman!

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i'm changing my stance. he no longer needs to bat .100 for me.

JBj can go 0-for the rest of the season and he starts every game in CF for me. i dont care if he ever gets another hit....

his D is that important. ask Sale, Price what they think. bet they give the same answer as slasher....

 

Does that mean you'd hang up on me too?

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JBJ for Boris Badenov?

 

 

Bad idea.

 

Because JBJ would actually catch Bullwinkle and Rocky, just like he does everything else. ..

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Bad idea.

 

Because JBJ would actually catch Bullwinkle and Rocky, just like he does everything else. ..

 

Would that be such a bad thing?

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JBJ was a disappointment again last night.

I hope the kis is putting in some extra batting practice, because he looks lost right now.

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