Matt Barnes suspended for four games and fined

[mvp 78]

guys, we were never ahead or way behind in those games. it wasn't the time to retaliate. Sunday was the PERFECT time. and that's when they attempted to do it.

 

I don't have a problem with the retaliation coming on Sunday. It's not an issue for me.

[Station 13]

They typically give a 6 day suspension so that ERod would have gotten pushed back a few days.

 

Appeal usually drop 1 day for them. Soometimes with off days he wouldn't missed a start if timed correctly. And that is better than not having the 8th inning guy for 4 games.

[Station 13]

Erod tried to plunk him in the leg 3 pitches in a row. he missed. it happens.

 

I know, how the heck do you missed it 4 times. The message can also be sent throwing behind him while not connecting.

[mvp 78]

I know, how the heck do you missed it 4 times. The message can also be sent throwing behind him while not connecting.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killology

 

Because he's trained to aim at a glove, not a target that looks human. His empathy impacted the throw (decreased velocity, missed location).

[Kimmi]

The more I think about this, the more I think there's even more to it than we know so far. I'm thinking that there had been some discussions before this game about how to handle the reprisal, and that Pedroia had disagreed with how Farrell wanted to do it. So when Pedroia acted like he did after the pitch by Barnes it wasn't a spontaneous thing.

 

That suggests open dissent in the clubhouse and a problem that could linger all season. Not good at all.

 

I did not like Pedroia's reaction one bit, but I don't think it's going to be a lingering issue. Nor am I overly concerned about leadership issues. Pedroia has always been a leader. Go back to the way he stuck up for Youk with the Bobby V incident. Pedroia messed up. It happens.

 

I think you guys are reading too much into it.

[Kimmi]

guys, we were never ahead or way behind in those games. it wasn't the time to retaliate. Sunday was the PERFECT time. and that's when they attempted to do it.

 

Exactly.

[Wade Boggs]

I did not like Pedroia's reaction one bit, but I don't think it's going to be a lingering issue. Nor am I overly concerned about leadership issues. Pedroia has always been a leader. Go back to the way he stuck up for Youk with the Bobby V incident. Pedroia messed up. It happens.

 

I think you guys are reading too much into it.[/quote

 

I've moved on. It's about baseball now. It's water under the bridge.

[Kimmi]

I've moved on. It's about baseball now. It's water under the bridge.

 

Yup. I guess the question is whether the team has moved on from it. Time will tell.

[devildavid]

The more I think about this, the more I think there's even more to it than we know so far. I'm thinking that there had been some discussions before this game about how to handle the reprisal, and that Pedroia had disagreed with how Farrell wanted to do it. So when Pedroia acted like he did after the pitch by Barnes it wasn't a spontaneous thing.

 

That suggests open dissent in the clubhouse and a problem that could linger all season. Not good at all.

 

If that was the case, his teammates shouldn't be surprised by Pedroia's reaction. Pedroia strikes me as a bluntly honest guy who also wanted to let Machado know that he realizes the spiking was accidental and just part of the game. It kind of fits Pedroia's hard-nosed personality. Being a good teammate isn't always about agreeing with each other as long as you give your all on the field. Pedroia's teammates know he is team first every minute on the field and always gives full effort.

[Nick]

If that was the case, his teammates shouldn't be surprised by Pedroia's reaction. Pedroia strikes me as a bluntly honest guy who also wanted to let Machado know that he realizes the spiking was accidental and just part of the game. It kind of fits Pedroia's hard-nosed personality. Being a good teammate isn't always about agreeing with each other as long as you give your all on the field. Pedroia's teammates know he is team first every minute on the field and always gives full effort.

 

He uttered the words, "it's not me, it's them." He referred to his teammates as 'them'. He will have to live with it.

[devildavid]

He uttered the words, "it's not me, it's them." He referred to his teammates as 'them'. He will have to live with it.

 

Yes, letting him know his teammates wanted to do it and not him. They did it against his wishes. Maybe this is controversial, but it fits Pedroias blunt personality. I think he will live with it just fine.

[mvp 78]

Yes, letting him know his teammates wanted to do it and not him. They did it against his wishes. Maybe this is controversial, but it fits Pedroias blunt personality. I think he will live with it just fine.

 

David Ross presented some alternative facts stating that what Pedroia was trying to say was "I didn't tell them to do it, but they have my backs so stop staring at me."

 

This wouldn't be an issue if Machado wasn't such a baby.

[Bellhorn04]

For better or worse, that incident may be looked back on as a defining moment of the season.

[SoxHop]

Pedro would have drilled Machado. And I have no doubt he would have....

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19267081/pedro-martinez-says-drilled-manny-machado-sliding-dustin-pedroia

[Kimmi]

David Ross presented some alternative facts stating that what Pedroia was trying to say was "I didn't tell them to do it, but they have my backs so stop staring at me."

 

This wouldn't be an issue if Machado wasn't such a baby.

 

Ross had a very good interpretation of what Pedroia said, IMO. It made me rethink my initial reaction to it.

 

Also, Ross had some very good insight regarding Pedroia's leadership, for those who were/are concerned about his ability to be a leader.

 

Ross would know better than any of us.

[Kimmi]

Pedro would have drilled Machado. And I have no doubt he would have....

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19267081/pedro-martinez-says-drilled-manny-machado-sliding-dustin-pedroia

 

One of the many reasons why I love Pedro.

[Kimmi]

FTR, after reading Ross' comments and the following tweet, I am fully back on board the Pedroia bandwagon.

 

 

Scott Lauber‏Verified account @ScottLauber 5h5 hours ago

 

Dustin Pedroia, after going 2-for-3 in the first time he has ever batted in the 6-hole: "I'll rake in that spot, too." #RedSox

[Bellhorn04]

Pedroia is 6 for 14 with 2 walks in the 4 games since 'the incident'.

[mvp 78]

Pedroia is 6 for 14 with 2 walks in the 4 games since 'the incident'.

 

Ahem...

 

6 for 10 since being moved to 6th in the batting order.

 

0 for 4 when leading off.

[Station 13]

Pedroia is 6 for 14 with 2 walks in the 4 games since 'the incident'.

 

yeah but no ribeyes. He suxxxx

[Bellhorn04]

yeah but no ribeyes. He suxxxx

 

Brutal.

[Emp9]

David Ross presented some alternative facts stating that what Pedroia was trying to say was "I didn't tell them to do it, but they have my backs so stop staring at me."

 

This wouldn't be an issue if Machado wasn't such a baby.

 

I'm over the incident, and I never felt like there were leadership problems. I do wonder if Showalter gets over anything. This will still be a heated series if Showalter has his way me thinks.

[mvp 78]

I'm over the incident, and I never felt like there were leadership problems. I do wonder if Showalter gets over anything. This will still be a heated series if Showalter has his way me thinks.

 

Showalter and Machado are made for each other.

[S5Dewey]

What are the odds of a bench-clearing brawl tonight? I'm saying about 25%, which is large when compared with a 'normal' game.

[Emp9]

What are the odds of a bench-clearing brawl tonight? I'm saying about 25%, which is large when compared with a 'normal' game.

 

25% for each game? That's like 100% for the series. LOL

[S5Dewey]

25% for each game? That's like 100% for the series. LOL

 

LOL No.. that was tonight. It just remains the same @ 25% until it happens! Which, BTW, I think is inevitable sooner or later.

 

This reminds me of the old Yankees rivalry when they were just itchin' to get at one another. Tampa Bay too.

[Slasher9]

i hope barnes punches pedroia in the back of the head on "accident" if there is a brawl.....that is if Pedroia actually bothers to come out of the dugout to partake in it. he may just sit in the dugout screaming "its not me, its them" over and over again......

[Emp9]

LOL No.. that was tonight. It just remains the same @ 25% until it happens! Which, BTW, I think is inevitable sooner or later.

 

This reminds me of the old Yankees rivalry when they were just itchin' to get at one another. Tampa Bay too.

 

First pitch of the game. Strike down the middle, no swing. Both sides get a warning.

[cp176]

I'm over the incident, and I never felt like there were leadership problems. I do wonder if Showalter gets over anything. This will still be a heated series if Showalter has his way me thinks.

 

my bet tonight = no incident. We looked stupid coming out of Baltimore trying to make some kind of a statement. i have felt that there have been and still are leadership issues with this team.

[mvp 78]

i hope barnes punches pedroia in the back of the head on "accident" if there is a brawl.....that is if Pedroia actually bothers to come out of the dugout to partake in it. he may just sit in the dugout screaming "its not me, its them" over and over again......

 

Hunched over, rocking back and forth with his head in his tiny hands.