Referendum on John Farrell

[Kimmi]

And that is definitive. Of course the Guardians were better than the Red Sox, and that is why they had home field advantage. That is why home field advantage is important. It is an indicator of which team is the better team.

 

This really makes no sense.

[a700hitter]

This really makes no sense.

Really, you can't grasp that?

[Kimmi]

If ever the saying about a team winning despite the manager were true, the Cubs won last night's game despite Maddon.

[Bellhorn04]

Really, you can't grasp that?

 

I do get your point. And I move that we all talk no more about the 'home field advantage' issue until next October at least.

[Bellhorn04]

If ever the saying about a team winning despite the manager were true, the Cubs won last night's game despite Maddon.

 

Shaughnessy pointed out the obvious when he said that Maddon was saved from a Grady Little legacy.

[a700hitter]

I do get your point. And I move that we all talk no more about the 'home field advantage' issue until next October at least.

I promise not to be the first to bring it up.

[a700hitter]

Shaughnessy pointed out the obvious when he said that Maddon was saved from a Grady Little legacy.

I wonder if Theo would have fired him like he fired Grady if the game had gone the other way.

[Bellhorn04]

I promise not to be the first to bring it up.

 

Deal.

[Slasher9]

If ever the saying about a team winning despite the manager were true, the Cubs won last night's game despite Maddon.

 

that was my #1 postgame observation.

[Dojji]

Shaughnessy pointed out the obvious when he said that Maddon was saved from a Grady Little legacy.

 

This is the opposite of Grady Little. Lester was still dealing and there wasn't a pressing need to pull him. If they let Lester finish that inning off, he probably accomplishes it, and probably wins the World Series MVP. Champan comes into his own inning and probably has a rocky 9th but gets the last out and the Cubs win 6-3 or 6-4. every problem Maddon had to deal with after that point was one he made for himself.

[oldtimer]

This is the opposite of Grady Little. Lester was still dealing and there wasn't a pressing need to pull him. If they let Lester finish that inning off, he probably accomplishes it, and probably wins the World Series MVP. Champan comes into his own inning and probably has a rocky 9th but gets the last out and the Cubs win 6-3 or 6-4. every problem Maddon had to deal with after that point was one he made for himself.

 

I thought the decision to pull Henricks in favor of Lester was also a bad one.

[sk7326]

I wonder if Theo would have fired him like he fired Grady if the game had gone the other way.

 

If Maddon did the same silly thing twice in the same postseason like Grady did? Yes.

 

Of the things he did - the yanking of Hendricks so quickly was his worst.

[Slasher9]

If Maddon did the same silly thing twice in the same postseason like Grady did? Yes.

 

Of the things he did - the yanking of Hendricks so quickly was his worst.

 

i would rank having chapman pitch game 6 (and even worse...more than 1 inning) when up by 5 runs was the winner for me.

[sk7326]

i would rank having chapman pitch game 6 (and even worse...more than 1 inning) when up by 5 runs was the winner for me.

 

Chapman pitching Game 6 was dicey but understandable. If you don't trust any other reliever - the cost of a loss was so high that managing like it was the last game of the season was justifiable (because it was). After all if you put in (anybody else) with a 5 run lead, and he let a run score, then pulling the alarm for Chapman would not have received any comment at all.

 

He obviously was gassed in Game 7 - coming into a situation with a runner on was tricky as he resorted to a fastball he couldn't command. When he went slider heavy (like in the 9th) it worked.

 

The bunt with Baez was dumb - but Baez looked totally lost at that point, so a bunt almost made sense. Heck, even pulling Hendricks quickly was fine in theory (again, trying not to be greedy) but he was so hot, should have at least given him a look at the third go through the order.

[Slasher9]

i would have understood if he pitched the 9th inning with the team up by 4 runs or less. outside of that it was a egregious error with a game 7 happening the very next night. again, none of it matters because the cubs won. but i am 100% comfortable saying that the Cubs won in spite of Maddon.

[S5Dewey]

i would have understood if he pitched the 9th inning with the team up by 4 runs or less. outside of that it was a egregious error with a game 7 happening the very next night. again, none of it matters because the cubs won. but i am 100% comfortable saying that the Cubs won in spite of Maddon.

 

IMO there's not much doubt that the Cubs won in spite of Maddon. However, from a historical standpoint all of his blunders will be forgotten and he'll go down in the history books as the manager who took the Cubs to their first WS championship in 108 years. Ugh.

[Kimmi]

i would have understood if he pitched the 9th inning with the team up by 4 runs or less. outside of that it was a egregious error with a game 7 happening the very next night. again, none of it matters because the cubs won. but i am 100% comfortable saying that the Cubs won in spite of Maddon.

 

Maddon tries too hard to make the baseball world believe that he's a genius. Unfortunately, he's not.

[Kimmi]

imo there's not much doubt that the cubs won in spite of maddon. However, from a historical standpoint all of his blunders will be forgotten and he'll go down in the history books as the manager who took the cubs to their first ws championship in 108 years. Ugh.

 

ugh!!!

[mvp 78]

If Maddon wasn't the manager, the Cubbies wouldn't bother me. He's a tool.

[Dojji]

Well unfortunately he's gonna be in our face all offseason and probably longer. Once a manager wins the Series, they usually don't go away in a hurry.

[Spudboy]

Maddon reminds me of some men that used to hang around the VFW hall and consume Shlitz and pickled eggs.

 

Gray straggly beard growth, soiled eye glasses, and chunks of crunched food in their teeth.

[a700hitter]

Maddon reminds me of some men that used to hang around the VFW hall and consume Shlitz and pickled eggs.

 

Gray straggly beard growth, soiled eye glasses, and chunks of crunched food in their teeth.

That does paint a picture.

[Maxbialystock]

Maddon reminds me of some men that used to hang around the VFW hall and consume Shlitz and pickled eggs.

 

Gray straggly beard growth, soiled eye glasses, and chunks of crunched food in their teeth.

 

VFW = Veterans of Foreign Wars.

[Kimmi]

Who will Farrell/Dombrowski choose for a new bench coach?

 

Dana LeVangie, Brian Butterfield, Alex Cora, Jason Varitek?

[SoxnCycles]

Who will Farrell/Dombrowski choose for a new bench coach?

 

Dana LeVangie, Brian Butterfield, Alex Cora, Jason Varitek?

 

I like Alex Cora.

Seems like a smart dude.

[Spudboy]

I like Alex Cora.

Seems like a smart dude.

 

I like Cora as well. My guess is that someone from the current staff will be promoted.

[sk7326]

Who will Farrell/Dombrowski choose for a new bench coach?

 

Dana LeVangie, Brian Butterfield, Alex Cora, Jason Varitek?

 

Cora has a good gig - and probably doesn't need an apprenticeship.

[Kimmi]

I like Alex Cora.

Seems like a smart dude.

 

I like Cora as well. As a player, you never saw him make a mental mistake. His head was always in the game. He'd be a good choice, IMO.

[Kimmi]

Cora has a good gig - and probably doesn't need an apprenticeship.

 

Possibly. The early impression I'm getting is that it might be LeVangie, though that's based on speculation from the writers.

[Spudboy]

So it seems that Farrell was extended through 2018 today.

 

That should makes so many of you experts so happy.