2016 MLB Gamethread

[Spudboy]

He will probably blow a tire soon after he joins the team. That has been his history. He never wanted to leave the Mets, so this could rejuvenate him.

 

As for the wife beating, we have seen a long history of different rules applying to athletes. Society is willing to sweep it under the carpet when professional athletes are involved. As a baseball move, it looks like a good move for the Mets. Plus, it fits the cheap assed Mets budget as they will only pay him the league minimum.

 

I see.

[a700hitter]

A 4 home run inning by Verlander against the Guardians. Ouch!!

[Spudboy]

A 4 home run inning by Verlander against the Guardians. Ouch!!

 

GO TRIBE!!!!1!1!!1

 

I still root for Tito!!!!

[Kimmi]

GO TRIBE!!!!1!1!!1

 

I still root for Tito!!!!

 

I do too. I mentioned before that if it's not the Sox, then the Cubs, I hope it's the Guardians.

 

They have played themselves into a 5 game lead in the Central.

[Kimmi]

The Rangers are a remarkable 17-5 in one run games. They are 6 wins better than their Pythagorean W-L record.

 

In other words, they've been lucky.

[iortiz]

The Rangers are a remarkable 17-5 in one run games. They are 6 wins better than their Pythagorean W-L record.

 

In other words, they've been lucky.

Lucky loves preparation and talent. They have both.

[Spudboy]

The Rangers are a remarkable 17-5 in one run games. They are 6 wins better than their Pythagorean W-L record.

 

In other words, they've been lucky.

 

How does your stat indicate luck as being the driver of their success?

 

That is a good team ( with unhealthy pitching at the moment ).

[Kimmi]

How does your stat indicate luck as being the driver of their success?

 

That is a good team ( with unhealthy pitching at the moment ).

 

They are a good team, but they aren't as good as their record indicates. They have been fairly lucky as well.

 

1. Pythagorean W-L, or more simply, average runs scored vs average runs allowed accounts for between 91% and 94% of the variance in actual W-L record. To be 6 games above what the Pythagorean record says you should be indicates some luck. The vast majority of teams will end up within 2 wins of their Pythagorean record.

 

2. Do you know how difficult it is to sustain a 17-5 (.773) record in one run games? So difficult, that if the Rangers maintain that, I believe it would be the best record since 1901. Don't quote me on that since I'm working off my memory here, but I know it would be close. Most teams, good or bad, will finish near .500 in one run games. The Rangers are currently 6 games better in one run games than .500 (exactly the # of games they're beating their Pythagorean W-L by).

 

Believe it or not, the outcome of one run games has more to do with randomness than it does with skill. The Rangers have been lucky in that regard.

[Spudboy]

I understand it much better now Kimmi. I just don't know how it can be strictly luck. An unlikely and uncommon record, an aberration. But luck seems to say " we can't explain this so it must be luck."

[Kimmi]

I understand it much better now Kimmi. I just don't know how it can be strictly luck. An unlikely and uncommon record, an aberration. But luck seems to say " we can't explain this so it must be luck."

 

The word 'luck' is kind of misinterpreted, I think. It's not luck as in lucky rabbit's foot, it's more luck as in randomness, or getting good breaks. It's not really that it can't be explained, but that it's not based on skill as much as it is on random events.

 

An no, it's not strictly luck, but it is a good amount of luck.

[User Name]

in b4 argument about clutch

[Bellhorn04]

The Rangers are a remarkable 17-5 in one run games. They are 6 wins better than their Pythagorean W-L record.

 

In other words, they've been lucky.

 

I agree that it's luck, but it's also the kind of luck that we have seen sustained over entire seasons. Like the 2012 Orioles, who were 29-9 in one run games.

[a700hitter]

I agree that it's luck, but it's also the kind of luck that we have seen sustained over entire seasons. Like the 2012 Orioles, who were 29-9 in one run games.

At the end of the year, those teams are known as good teams -- winners.

[User Name]

Then they turn back into pumpkins, like Baltimore did.

[Bellhorn04]

Then they turn back into pumpkins, like Baltimore did.

 

Well, let's see:

85-77 in 2013 with 20-31 in one run games. So that would appear to be the correction.

 

But:

96-66 in 2014 with 32-23 in one run games. So they beat Pythagoras again.

81-81 in 2015 with 25-26.

46-30 in 2016 with 8-8.

 

So since 2013 they are 3 games under .500 in one run games.

[bosoxmal]

Watching the Cleveland @ Toronto game. The Guardians, in addition to thevaunted pitching staff, has a lineup that is swinging the bat. Two first pitch home runs in the the couple of i8nnings, Nobody wating around to see if the pitch is a 1/2" inside, or 1/2" outside, See it as a probable strike, hit it! Seems to be working. Only yhte 2 homers in their first four innings but they have 6 hits all together off Dickey.are doing it both sides of the ball.

[a700hitter]

I have never seen the Toronto Blue Jays wearing the red jerseys that they are wearing today.

[Bellhorn04]

I have never seen the Toronto Blue Jays wearing the red jerseys that they are wearing today.

 

It's their Canada Day jerseys.

[a700hitter]

It's their Canada Day jerseys.

Oh, they celebrate being Canadian? LOL!!

[Bellhorn04]

Oh, they celebrate being Canadian? LOL!!

 

Of course they do.

[a700hitter]

Of course they do.

I may move there someday after Global Warming gets a bit more of a foothold there.

[Bellhorn04]

Going to the 17th inning in this one.

[Kimmi]

It's been a good game. Both teams have had runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs and were unable to score.

 

For all of the "robot ump" crowd, the Jays have been extremely frustrated with the home plate ump, and there have been 3 ejections because of it.

[yankthis]

Tied at 1 in the 17th. Time to invoke the "flip a coin" rule lol.

[yankthis]

18th now. It would be hilarious if both teams score 4 runs with 2 outs and have to keep on going.

[a700hitter]

O's getting thumped by the Mariners 8-2. That will keep us from falling back further.

 

Also, Rich Hill is having a pretty good outing in his return from the DL.

[bosoxmal]

Not much to scout. Hoping they would have to use their bullpen. Top of the 5th, bases loaded, nobody out A's 7-Rays 0. Finally Cash pulls the plug on Smyly who looked like he was ready to cry. He really was lousy. Maybe the Rays are dumb enough to use up their better relievers.

 

The Sox should sweep this three game series and go into the break with momentum.

[Bellhorn04]

You're talking about last night's game? Very confusing.

[mvp 78]

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/throwback-thursday-the-end-of-whitey-herzog-and-a-way-of-baseball

 

If you have a slow afternoon, here's a good read. I loved those 80's Cardinals teams.

[Kimmi]

You're talking about last night's game? Very confusing.

 

They played today, so I think he's talking about today's game, though I didn't watch it.