2016 Red Sox Hot Stove Discussion Thread

[Palodios]

Trading Miley for spare parts will be a mistake. There better be actual value coming back to the Sox.

[Palodios]

And Miley is going to the Mariners. That sucks. No word on the return yet.

[Elktonnick]

Ke Rosenthal tweeted about 12:30 that it could be either Buchholtz or Miley. One can only hope that it is CB

[BSN07]

It's Miley. I agree with Pal tho, if it's for spare parts I am not a fan of the trade

[mvp 78]

Deal is done.

[Palodios]

Carson Smith and Roenas Elias.

[jd98]

Trading Miley for spare parts will be a mistake. There better be actual value coming back to the Sox.

 

I'm not a big fan of Miley, but I completely agree. He's pretty much the definition of mediocre, but there is definite value in 200 IP of medocrity.

[BSN07]

RP Carson Smith and LH SP Roenis Elias

[BSN07]

Anyone know anything about these guys?

[mvp 78]

Miley and aro to mariners for carson smith and roenis Elias agreed to

[Palodios]

Everyone seems to give the impression Carson Smith is beastly. Not sure about Elias.

[Bellhorn04]

Carson Smith is the big catch. Nice addition to the bullpen.

[BSN07]

I am seeing Smith is a power arm and Mariner fans aren't happy to see him go. Elias looks like a pre arb lotto ticket with upside. Not a terrible trade imo

[NativeBostonian]

Getting Carson Smith for Miley seems like an impressive move by Dombrowski. This is going to make the back of the bullpen good and you cut a lot of money off your payrole.

[mvp 78]

Scouting reports on Smith/Elias: Power deception w/heavy ball from Smith. Impact late inning reliever. Elias versatile LHP w/a feel to pitch - Speier

[User Name]

Love Miley, but Smith is a good get. Massive upside. Elias is useful.

[Elktonnick]

Looks like the trade results in an upgrade to the bullpen and a downgrade to a potential starter in the rotation. It appears to be an even trade in that respect. One has to wonder if Miley was traded in part for showing up Farrell this past year.

[BSN07]

Seattle fans already calling for Dipito's head on a stake lol

[cp176]

Once again, it looks like a move that attempts to address a real need. Hate to see Miley go, but we have arms enough to give us we we got from him. Maybe not just one, but a combination for sure.

[User Name]

This is a precursos to the acquisition of another starter IMO.

[a700hitter]

Elias isn't bad -- a Miley type from what I remember and Smith was the closer for part of the season.

[a700hitter]

I can't see the upside for Seattle in this trade.

[Spudboy]

Miley had the greatest value ( IMO ) among himself, Buch, and Kelly.

 

Sorry to see him go as he was useful now and likely would continue to be so.

 

I hope the relief arm they grabbed is worth it.

[NativeBostonian]

I can't see the upside for Seattle in this trade.

 

I can't either. They gave the Red Sox a pretty solid reliever, for a average starting pitcher.

[jd98]

At first glance, I like it. Swapped similar SP's while adding a good RP.

[Elktonnick]

Mariners needed a starter after losing Iwakuma to LA. Obviously they think more of Miley than Elias

[Spudboy]

Mariners needed a starter after losing Iwakuma to LA. Obviously they think more of Miley than Elias

 

And that would be a good reason to make the trade. Miley is serviceable as a 4 or 5 in the Seattle rotation.

 

Is Smith any good? Has he been consistent?

[Palodios]

And that would be a good reason to make the trade. Miley is serviceable as a 4 or 5 in the Seattle rotation.

 

Is Smith any good? Has he been consistent?

 

In one season, his numbers look like this: 11.8 K/9, 2.32 ERA, 1.00 WHIP.

We won't know if he's consistent for a few years. He's controllable for 5 years, and that's his value.

[a700hitter]

Smith adds a power arm at the end of the pen which we needed. And we really don't lose much with Elias for Miley.

[Hitch]

Looks like a great trade.