2015 Red Sox In-Season Thread

[mvp 78]

He's a wimp AND concerned about his financial status for next year.

[Bellhorn04]

He's a wimp AND concerned about his financial status for next year.

 

Of course he's concerned about his financial status for next year. That's only normal human behavior.

 

I don't see anything to hate on Buchholz about this year. He pitched very well, he was going deep in games, then he injured his elbow.

[mvp 78]

I have no problem with him worrying about his money.

 

We already knew that he wasn't durable, so this injury isn't surprising to me.

[Kimmi]

Didn't he need "peace of mind" about his shoulder too? He sounds like a gigantic wimp.

 

No one is claiming him that he's an Iron Man. However, there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion for peach of mind. A lot of players do that.

[a700hitter]

No one is claiming him that he's an Iron Man. However, there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion for peach of mind. A lot of players do that.

 

Like a peach, Buch bruise easily.

[Kimmi]

I have no problem with him worrying about his money.

 

We already knew that he wasn't durable, so this injury isn't surprising to me.

 

Well, if you recall, the Sox really screwed up with one of his prior injuries by not getting an MRI done right away.

 

Perhaps the Sox want the 2nd opinion as much as Buchholz does, to make sure that they didn't miss anything. I'm sure they are considering picking up his option for next season. They certainly don't want to do that if his arm is going to fall off within the first week of the season.

[Kimmi]

Like a peach, Buch bruise easily.

 

Yes, but also like a peach, he is good enough to keep even with a couple of bruises.

[FenwayFaithful]

Cherington has to go.

 

Just so many bad contracts and untradable pieces. Unless we're willing to eat a TON of money, I don't see this team personnel-wise being much different next year. Could see them signing one #2/#3 starter and some bullpen pieces but nothing drastic.

[Elktonnick]

Cherington has to go.

 

Just so many bad contracts and untradable pieces. Unless we're willing to eat a TON of money, I don't see this team personnel-wise being much different next year. Could see them signing one #2/#3 starter and some bullpen pieces but nothing drastic.

 

Can anyone explain the reason for not starting the team's only all star in either game of yesterday's doubleheader?

[Kimmi]

Cherington has to go.

 

Just so many bad contracts and untradable pieces. Unless we're willing to eat a TON of money, I don't see this team personnel-wise being much different next year. Could see them signing one #2/#3 starter and some bullpen pieces but nothing drastic.

 

From what I've read, it seems that where ownership thinks the problem lies is with the scouting department.

[Kimmi]

That was really a pathetic showing by the Sox in this series. I'm one who always believes there's hope, but this team has shown no signs that they can turn it around to play above .500, much less go on the type of run they will need to make up 9 games. It's rare that I go into a game expecting to lose.

[Bellhorn04]

Can anyone explain the reason for not starting the team's only all star in either game of yesterday's doubleheader?

 

I'm now of the belief that Farrell's brain is completely fried.

[SoxnCycles]

That was really a pathetic showing by the Sox in this series. I'm one who always believes there's hope, but this team has shown no signs that they can turn it around to play above .500, much less go on the type of run they will need to make up 9 games. It's rare that I go into a game expecting to lose.

 

Yup, pretty much all that's left is to hope they break .500, sell off some spare parts to try to and build for next year.

[SoxnCycles]

I'm now of the belief that Farrell's brain is completely fried.

 

Yup, that would've made all the difference....

[Elktonnick]

I'm now of the belief that Farrell's brain is completely fried.

 

Farrell is the same manager that he was in Toronto, a bad one.

[User Name]

Well would you look at that. Elktonnick and I agree on something.

[SoxnCycles]

Well would you look at that. Elktonnick and I agree on something.

 

I think it's a last-ditch effort to get something out of Napoli.

I'm sure they'd rather trade him than cut him.

 

Bitching a bout Holt missing a couple of games seem to me to be the equivalent of bitching about your seat on the lifeboat being wet.

[Palodios]

I wonder if Buchholz is still tradeable. He could potentially get a start in before the deadline but I am thinking about the waiver deadline in August. With so many teams close to the playoffs, the Red Sox just need him to sneak past a few teams for him to be claimed by a team that needs him.

 

Seattle,Oakland, Texas, Cleveland, Chicago. Everyone is a contender after that.

[a700hitter]

I'm now of the belief that Farrell's brain is completely fried.

He is an awful manager and he is on his way to his 4 last place finish in his 5 years of managing 2 different teams.

[cp176]

Regime change could be on its way - they gambled and lost. At one point it looked as though everything was in place for this team to be competitive for a long time.

[Elktonnick]

He is an awful manager and he is on his way to his 4 last place finish in his 5 years of managing 2 different teams.

 

The question is what does this say about Cherrington. I have yet to see anything out of Cherington to convince me that he is up to the job. 2013 is looking more and more like an anomaly. I thought Cafardo's column said it all. "All the Bill James projections and analytic models haven’t been able to put the Red Sox together again. Something’s amiss with this organization and management better figure it out this offseason."

 

Cafardo won't say it but I will. Fire Cherrington !

[a700hitter]

The question is what does this say about Cherrington. I have yet to see anything out of Cherington to convince me that he is up to the job. 2013 is looking more and more like an anomaly. I thought Cafardo's column said it all. "All the Bill James projections and analytic models haven’t been able to put the Red Sox together again. Something’s amiss with this organization and management better figure it out this offseason."

 

Cafardo won't say it but I will. Fire Cherrington !

Sometimes the most obvious solution is the correct solution. Even if Ben is not the cause, firing him can't have a worse result than finishing last.

[Bellhorn04]

I think it's a last-ditch effort to get something out of Napoli.

I'm sure they'd rather trade him than cut him.

 

Bitching a bout Holt missing a couple of games seem to me to be the equivalent of bitching about your seat on the lifeboat being wet.

 

I know what you're saying. But we're talking about a team that got shut out the previous two games benching the guy with the highest OBP on the team for a doubleheader.

 

You're right that it didn't matter much. That just shows what a clusterf*** it's become.

[Elktonnick]

I know what you're saying. But we're talking about a team that got shut out the previous two games benching the guy with the highest OBP on the team for a doubleheader.

 

You're right that it didn't matter much. That just shows what a clusterf*** it's become.

 

Farrell didn't know the results when he made out his line up card. The fact is Farrell doesn't put his best team on the field. He manages this team more like the prime minister of a coalition government. He has to keep all the minority parties and factions happy in order to keep his seat.

 

In the end Farrell's team got swept in a four game series and his only all star who wasn't injured started only one game.

[SoxnCycles]

I know what you're saying. But we're talking about a team that got shut out the previous two games benching the guy with the highest OBP on the team for a doubleheader.

 

You're right that it didn't matter much. That just shows what a clusterf*** it's become.

 

I think the FO decided how to proceed after losing the Yankees series.

We'll probably see a lot of Napoli and Victorino until the deadline passes.

[Palodios]

The question is what does this say about Cherrington. I have yet to see anything out of Cherington to convince me that he is up to the job. 2013 is looking more and more like an anomaly. I thought Cafardo's column said it all. "All the Bill James projections and analytic models haven’t been able to put the Red Sox together again. Something’s amiss with this organization and management better figure it out this offseason."

 

Cafardo won't say it but I will. Fire Cherrington !

 

I am not convinced that Ben is responsible for all of the mistakes made within the organization. His moves always seem shrewd, cold, calculated. His moves are baseball moves, and the rest of the FO seem to make the big money splash signings for marketing purposes.

 

I think Ben is responsible for acquiring Miley/Porcello/Ogando/Masterson, and the rest of the FO is responsible for Castillo/Sandoval/Hanley. If you want to think I'm pandering to Ben Cherrington realize this: I am blaming Cherrington for this rotation, including the Porcello extension.

 

Personally, I think baseball moves should be put in the hands of baseball people, with or without BC.

[Elktonnick]

I am not convinced that Ben is responsible for all of the mistakes made within the organization. His moves always seem shrewd, cold, calculated. His moves are baseball moves, and the rest of the FO seem to make the big money splash signings for marketing purposes.

 

I think Ben is responsible for acquiring Miley/Porcello/Ogando/Masterson, and the rest of the FO is responsible for Castillo/Sandoval/Hanley. If you want to think I'm pandering to Ben Cherrington realize this: I am blaming Cherrington for this rotation, including the Porcello extension.

 

Personally, I think baseball moves should be put in the hands of baseball people, with or without BC.

 

If Ben doesn't have either the cajones or personal stature stand up to whomever in the FO is "over ruling" him on baseball signings and moves then, like I posted, he isn't up to the job. Personally I don't buy this conspiracy theory that the FO is full of intrigue. Ben is either the General Manager or he isn't. If he is being constantly undermined by "sinister" forces in the FO then he should quit.

[User Name]

If Ben doesn't have either the cajones or personal stature stand up to whomever in the FO is "over ruling" him on baseball signings and moves then, like I posted, he isn't up to the job. Personally I don't buy this conspiracy theory that the FO is full of intrigue. Ben is either the General Manager or he isn't. If he is being constantly undermined by "sinister" forces in the FO then he should quit.

 

I think you need a reality check. That's not how real life works.

[a700hitter]

If Ben doesn't have either the cajones or personal stature stand up to whomever in the FO is "over ruling" him on baseball signings and moves then, like I posted, he isn't up to the job. Personally I don't buy this conspiracy theory that the FO is full of intrigue. Ben is either the General Manager or he isn't. If he is being constantly undermined by "sinister" forces in the FO then he should quit.

Ben is not a victim, nor is he any more of a puppet than any other GM. He is simply not a good GM. He is a great example of the Peter Principle. He was a great understudy, but he can't handle the job. maybe Theo can use him in Chicago to get his coffee.

[Elktonnick]

Ben is not a victim, nor is he any more of a puppet than any other GM. He is simply not a good GM. He is a great example of the Peter Principle. He was a great understudy, but he can't handle the job. maybe Theo can use him in Chicago to get his coffee.

 

Those are generally my sentiments that's why I don't believe he is being undermined. He is just a factotum.