Keith Law's Prospect Stuff on Sawx

[moonslav59]

Like your list but I believe Kopech is 20 or 21

 

20.

[Hugh2]

Devers is starting the year at Portland, once you get to double A its not to long until your ready, think there is a good chance he's ready in 18 and is a September call up. We need Pablo to play well, if not we are looking at Rutledge and over exposing Holt.

 

I think that's plausible, but even then he could easily have an adjustment period. He'll be 21 at that point and could take anywhere from a week to 2 years to adjust and be a consistent MLBer. That's why I said I think he's at least 2 years off. I do think we could see him at the end of 2018 but I'm not thinking about penciling him into a productive player until 2019.

 

Either way....there's a hole open at 3B for at least 2 years. A hole that I'm hoping Sandoval can fill.

[moonslav59]

I think that's plausible, but even then he could easily have an adjustment period. He'll be 21 at that point and could take anywhere from a week to 2 years to adjust and be a consistent MLBer. That's why I said I think he's at least 2 years off. I do think we could see him at the end of 2018 but I'm not thinking about penciling him into a productive player until 2019.

 

Either way....there's a hole open at 3B for at least 2 years. A hole that I'm hoping Sandoval can fill.

 

If Devers is ready to contribute in a meaningful before 2019, which I think is the time we should plan on, then we can always move Pablo to DH or even 1B, if Travis has not worked out by then.

[Fisk]

I think that's plausible, but even then he could easily have an adjustment period. He'll be 21 at that point and could take anywhere from a week to 2 years to adjust and be a consistent MLBer. That's why I said I think he's at least 2 years off. I do think we could see him at the end of 2018 but I'm not thinking about penciling him into a productive player until 2019.

 

Either way....there's a hole open at 3B for at least 2 years. A hole that I'm hoping Sandoval can fill.

 

It depends on the player and how quickly they can adjust. Betts didn't have much of an adjustment period. Bogey and Bradley struggled. I'm going to guess Benindenti will have a smooth transition.

[sk7326]

Org Sleeper Pick http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=6739

 

Boston Red Sox: Ronny Raudes, RHP

 

Like all command guys, Raudes has to continue to prove he can succeed with average stuff as he moves up the ladder, but it’s impressive enough that he did what he did in full-season ball at low-A Greenville at an age (18) when most guys are still in complex leagues. We’ll see if Travis Lakins is better in 2017, now that he’s completely healthy.

[sk7326]

Imagine our system if we didn't trade Moncada, Kopech and Espinoza. Would be one of the best all time. Still happy to have Sale.

 

In his chat, someone noted the Red Sox either had or dealt 7 of his Top 24, which is pretty ridiculous

[Fisk]

Org Sleeper Pick http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=6739

 

Raudes does not have great stuff but has above average command, sometimes that mix is underrated.

[southpaw777]

Raudes does not have great stuff but has above average command, sometimes that mix is underrated.

 

I think they believe the pitches will improve more, but yes, its more of the mix of pitches and how he uses them. His command of them. That can be VERY underrated.

He needs to get bigger to go longer into games. But hes only 19 so he should fill out more.

Honestly, hes a "potential" type, so we have to wait and see how he developes over the next couple years.

Im hoping Delbacs hit tool can develop more. Kid would be a 40 hr hitter every year. Ill take 150 Ks for that. Not too confident right now he will do that though.

Edited February 16, 2017 by southpaw777

[moonslav59]

Although Dalbec is 21, I still think he can grow more.

 

If you count his last two years at the U. of Arizona and his time with Lowell, he has 44 doubles + triple and 28 HRs in 552 ABs (about 630 PAs).

 

I'll take the K's too, if he can give us that kind of power.

[Fisk]

I think they believe the pitches will improve more, but yes, its more of the mix of pitches and how he uses them. His command of them. That can be VERY underrated.

He needs to get bigger to go longer into games. But hes only 19 so he should fill out more.

Honestly, hes a "potential" type, so we have to wait and see how he developes over the next couple years.

Im hoping Delbacs hit tool can develop more. Kid would be a 40 hr hitter every year. Ill take 150 Ks for that. Not too confident right now he will do that though.

 

Dalbec had a really tough year last year in college, so I'm a little skeptical on his Lowell numbers. Hopefully I'm pleasently surprised.

[moonslav59]

Dalbec had a really tough year last year in college, so I'm a little skeptical on his Lowell numbers. Hopefully I'm pleasently surprised.

 

.266/.378/.440/.818 in 207 ABs is not all that bad, but it was 200-300 OPS points lower than the year before or at Lowell.

[sk7326]

From the Top 100 ... with a system with a lot of graduates, obviously the Sox are thin at the top ...

 

http://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/22181590/keith-law-2018-top-100-prospects-nos-50-1-introducing-tomorrow-superstars

 

30. Jason Groome, LHP, Age 19, Last year rank: 20

 

Groome's season couldn't have gone much worse. He started out hurt, tried to pitch through it, gave up a nine-spot in his first start of the year and then went on the shelf for two months. When he did reach the mound, the results were inconsistent, but his stuff has already started to justify his pre-draft projections.

 

The 2016 first-rounder worked at 92-95 as a starter last year and still has a grade-70 curveball as a put-away pitch that he can throw for strikes and even for swings and misses in the zone. He has been working on his changeup -- during some outings it would flash above average and in others it was a nonfactor for him. He also may eventually be a candidate for a cutter, especially if the change doesn't come along all the way.

 

Groome is a lean 6-foot-6 and should put on more muscle as he gets into his 20s, but the priority for him now is conditioning rather than weight training, so he can have a full, healthy 2018 and continue to work on his control and changeup. Few starter prospects can boast a breaking ball like Groome's, and despite all of the missed time, his arm is still healthy, so his upside of a No. 2 starter remains intact.

 

76. Michael Chavis, 3B, Age 22, Last Year Rank: UR

 

Chavis played most of 2016 with a broken finger but didn't disclose the injury to the Red Sox, so his awful performance for low-A Greenville at least had an explanation. Fully healthy in 2017, Chavis exploded for 31 homers between high-A and Double-A while cutting his strikeout rate at both levels and looking a lot more like the player Boston thought it was getting with its first-round pick in 2014.

 

He has big-time pull power, but one key for him last year was working more towards left-center to open up more of the field and make him less vulnerable with two strikes or against soft away pitches.

 

A fringy defender at third, he lacks the agility to be more than a good 45 there and may end up at first base between that and the presence of Rafael Devers ahead of him.

 

Chavis has made up for lost time in a huge way and should start 2018 in Double-A at age 22, still needing some work on his approach, but he's already progressed so far by not trying to kill the ball every time he swings that you can project him as a solid regular with some upside if he keeps his average and OBP up.

[moonslav59]

Seems out two top 100 kiddos look better to law than BA.

[Bellhorn04]

Seems out two top 100 kiddos look better to law than BA.

 

Very subjective indeed.

[sk7326]

Seems out two top 100 kiddos look better to law than BA.

 

Rankings are what they are - without access to what BA actually wrote, it is not that educational.

[mvp 78]

Please put posts like these in http://www.talksox.com/forum/forums/17-Red-Sox-Minor-Leagues

 

It's a lovely forum and more traffic needs to be directed there.

 

Thank you.

[sk7326]

like this?? http://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/18520-2018-ESPN-Prospects-Stuff-(Sox-Related)

[notin]

Seems out two top 100 kiddos look better to law than BA.

 

He was significantly higher on Devers than BA was too. ..

[Larry Cook]

I am cautiously optimistic about several very young pitchers in the lower levels of our farm system.

 

Groome - awesome stuff. Can he put it all together?

 

Matta- good stuff. Can he tighten up the secondary pitches?

 

Schreff - really good stuff. Excited to finally see him pitch.

[mvp 78]

Considering that our system has been "decimated" by recent graduations and the Kimbrel trade, having 3 prospects in the top 20 and still being ranked a top 10 farm is pretty remarkable.

 

Per this thread, the originator of "decimated" is the horrible Red Sox hater Keith Law.

[Bellhorn04]

Per this thread, the originator of "decimated" is the horrible Red Sox hater Keith Law.

 

Keith Law

Kimmi

Slasher

Larry Cook

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That's your fearsome fivesome right there.

[mvp 78]

Keith Law

Kimmi

Slasher

Larry Cook

notin

 

That's your fearsome fivesome right there.

 

They played right into Keith Law's trap.

[notin]

Keith Law

Kimmi

Slasher

Larry Cook

notin

 

That's your fearsome fivesome right there.

 

That’s 4 extremely intelligent minds right there. Plus me for comic relief.

 

At least that was my role back when all of us had that round table show on ESPN24…

[mvp 78]

That’s 4 extremely intelligent minds right there. Plus me for comic relief.

 

At least that was my role back when all of us had that round table show on ESPN24…

 

Round the clock coverage of Manny Ramirez on that channel.

[notin]

Round the clock coverage of Manny Ramirez on that channel.

 

“Let’s check in on Manny now… He appears to be sleeping…. We’ll have further updates when he wakes up for his morning toast and the key question of today’s topping. Early poll results indicate marmalade over grape jelly, with a boring 15% who just say butter”