Yankee rotation

[BSN07]

Sounds like the Yanks are going after Scherzer. Bummer.

 

Not sure why it's a bummer? I think he's a huge risk for anyone signing him. I'm not sure the Yanks are going to go stupid money on him even if they are interested. It seems like they are learning or finally learned about signing guys into their late 30's. I think Boras might be able to get a "stupid" offer out of the Nats.

[jacksonianmarch]

BSN, provided the Steins don't get involved, this is exactly the kind of offseason we needed. We don't need splashy, we need youth. Now, does that mean we're WS destined in 2015, heck no. But we've gotten better over the long haul without giving up picks or dealing from our farm. I like the moves we've made, they may not work out, but such is life. We need some money to come off before we start adding big money back in

[BSN07]

BSN, provided the Steins don't get involved, this is exactly the kind of offseason we needed. We don't need splashy, we need youth. Now, does that mean we're WS destined in 2015, heck no. But we've gotten better over the long haul without giving up picks or dealing from our farm. I like the moves we've made, they may not work out, but such is life. We need some money to come off before we start adding big money back in

 

I think they have been pretty smart so far but there is still a lot of time left for like you said the Steins to be silver tongued by Boras. If they manage to avoid bad deals the next couple years they will pretty much be able to get whomever they want after.

[seabeachfred]

I think they have been pretty smart so far but there is still a lot of time left for like you said the Steins to be silver tongued by Boras. If they manage to avoid bad deals the next couple years they will pretty much be able to get whomever they want after.

 

 

The Yankee way is to try and win a World Series EVERY year and since they know the AL East is down this year Steinbrenner will come out of the office and throw a mega-deal at Scherzer and Boras, who I am convinced is a Yankee fan at heart, will get him name on the dotted line. That's my opinion on the matter. We'll see.

[cp176]

The Yankee way is to try and win a World Series EVERY year and since they know the AL East is down this year Steinbrenner will come out of the office and throw a mega-deal at Scherzer and Boras, who I am convinced is a Yankee fan at heart, will get him name on the dotted line. That's my opinion on the matter. We'll see.

 

If it was George, Fred, I would say absolutely. With this version of Steinbrenner- I just don't know. In a way, I hope the Yankees pull the trigger. It might motivate our boys to go get a difference maker. I still think that he winds up back in the motor city.

[jacksonianmarch]

I think Cashman finally got the reigns and is being allowed to rebuild the roster on the fly. Adding significant payroll will put us up over a quarter billion dollars in salary and that isn't something that is feasible long term, especially since our problem currently is dead money with players who don't belong anymore. I am happy with the approach, but I am sure I won't be happy with the results after the 2015 season is over

[jacksonianmarch]

To this point, I think our spring has gone quite well on the pitching front. The only notable rotational loss is our #5 guy that I didn't want on our team anyway. CC has shown lost velocity and to this point has been healthy. Tanaka has looked awesome in his two starts. Eovaldi is showing command along with the development of his splitter, which is a relatively new, but devastating pitch, and Pineda has been solid and healthy. This doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of their capability to endure the workload of an entire year, but it definitely bodes well for us to start the season. I have said it probably 100 times. If our rotation stays healthy, we are in the playoffs

[Kimmi]

To this point, I think our spring has gone quite well on the pitching front. The only notable rotational loss is our #5 guy that I didn't want on our team anyway. CC has shown lost velocity and to this point has been healthy. Tanaka has looked awesome in his two starts. Eovaldi is showing command along with the development of his splitter, which is a relatively new, but devastating pitch, and Pineda has been solid and healthy. This doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of their capability to endure the workload of an entire year, but it definitely bodes well for us to start the season. I have said it probably 100 times. If our rotation stays healthy, we are in the playoffs

 

 

Obviously, things are going well for the Yankees so far in ST. IMO, the talent of the rotation has never been a question. It will come down to whether they can stay healthy or not.

[Ogden]

To this point, I think our spring has gone quite well on the pitching front. The only notable rotational loss is our #5 guy that I didn't want on our team anyway. CC has shown lost velocity and to this point has been healthy. Tanaka has looked awesome in his two starts. Eovaldi is showing command along with the development of his splitter, which is a relatively new, but devastating pitch, and Pineda has been solid and healthy. This doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of their capability to endure the workload of an entire year, but it definitely bodes well for us to start the season. I have said it probably 100 times. If our rotation stays healthy, we are in the playoffs

 

 

 

The Yanks have 2 good SPs who may or may not get through the season. The rest of the starters are just a bunch of guys named Joe Schmo who will be lucky to have an ERA of 4.50-5.00. For some reason they saw fit to trade Shane Greene (who I thought was pretty good) for a platoon shortstop. But as I said in another thread, I applaud your optimism. And maybe my self-perceived realism isn't anything more than foolishness. Time will tell.

Edited March 22, 2015 by Ogden

[Kimmi]

The Yanks have 2 good SPs who may or may not get through the season. The rest of the starters are just a bunch of guys named Joe Schmo who will be lucky to have an ERA of 4.50-5.00. For some reason they saw fit to trade Shane Greene (who I thought was pretty good) for a platoon shortstop. But as I said in another thread, I applaud your optimism. And maybe my self-perceived realism isn't anything more than foolishness. Time will tell.

 

I, unfortunately, think the Yankee rotation will be better than you think it will be, if they stay healthy. But I really like your self-perceived realism and I hope that you are right.

[a700hitter]

How has CC's velocity been this Spring? I heard that the Mets lit him up for 3 homers yesterday.

[Bellhorn04]

How has CC's velocity been this Spring? I heard that the Mets lit him up for 3 homers yesterday.

 

His fastball topped at 94 yesterday so it's up.

[a700hitter]

His fastball topped at 94 yesterday so it's up.

He can be very effective at that velocity.

[jacksonianmarch]

Ogden, Eovaldi has the stuff to be a front line starter. CC, if he is in the low to mid 90s again, will be a force should he stay healthy. And Nova should come back some time this year. If we are healthy, this pitching staff will be something to see

[Ogden]

Ogden, Eovaldi has the stuff to be a front line starter. CC, if he is in the low to mid 90s again, will be a force should he stay healthy. And Nova should come back some time this year. If we are healthy, this pitching staff will be something to see

 

 

I used to like Eovaldi because he was on my fantasy team and I agree he has shown good stuff at times, but his performance over the course of a season in his career says he isn't consistent and is a #4 starter. Sabathia is cooked. He hasn't been the same pitcher the last 2 years. If all of a sudden he gains 5 MPH vs 3-4 years ago at the age of 34, he'll be an example of a medical miracle. And tell him to put his hat on straight.

[Northern Star]

To this point, I think our spring has gone quite well on the pitching front. The only notable rotational loss is our #5 guy that I didn't want on our team anyway. CC has shown lost velocity and to this point has been healthy. Tanaka has looked awesome in his two starts. Eovaldi is showing command along with the development of his splitter, which is a relatively new, but devastating pitch, and Pineda has been solid and healthy. This doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of their capability to endure the workload of an entire year, but it definitely bodes well for us to start the season. I have said it probably 100 times. If our rotation stays healthy, we are in the playoffs

 

We should start calling you Baghdad Bob.

[Kimmi]

And tell him to put his hat on straight.

 

 

No kidding. That drives me crazy!

[Kimmi]

we should start calling you baghdad bob.

 

lol

[Kimmi]

Some of the shine has come off of Betances this spring. It might be nothing, but it might be something.

 

How's that for expert analysis?

[jacksonianmarch]

Betances sounds like it's all in his head. Glad we got Carpenter and Miller. I would rather they close than Dellin at this point, or at least until he pulls his head out of his ass

[Kimmi]

Betances sounds like it's all in his head. Glad we got Carpenter and Miller. I would rather they close than Dellin at this point, or at least until he pulls his head out of his ass

 

 

His velocity is down but he says that is not the problem. He thinks to some extent that the league has figured him out and that's why they are hitting him better. I haven't watched him pitch enough to know what is going, but it could very well all be in his head.

 

I'm not sure why Girardi has not named a closer. I think relievers pitch better when they know what their specific roles are.

[Bellhorn04]

I think relievers pitch better when they know what their specific roles are.

 

Does the data support that, Kimmi?

[jacksonianmarch]

Kimmi, I think it was Betances role to lose and I think he is losing it. He did this in he minors a few times. He'd have runs of being absolutely lights out dominant followed by runs of loss of command and some velo. It's almost always mechanical with him. And with him, he can lose his mechanics based on how tight his head is screwed on.

[Ogden]

Maybe Betances is having nightmares of Steve Blass.

 

 

 

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[Spudboy]

Kimmi, I think it was Betances role to lose and I think he is losing it. He did this in he minors a few times. He'd have runs of being absolutely lights out dominant followed by runs of loss of command and some velo. It's almost always mechanical with him. And with him, he can lose his mechanics based on how tight his head is screwed on.

 

This does not fit the chart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jacksonianmarch]

I don't know what it is with him. Like I said before, he did this in the minors, especially when he was a starter. He'd have month runs at a time where he would throw shutout after shutout (6IP performances usually as this was the minors) and then have 2 or 3 start stretches where he'd allow 6 or 7 runs with 8 or 9 walks and his velo would be in the shitter. Could it be injury, possibly, but with him, it is usually mechanical or where his head is at. If he is going through one of those spells, we might be better served sending him to SWB to get his head out of his ass for a month or so. We have the pen depth.

 

Oh and BTW, Adam Warren is expected to win the 5th starter spot. The kid was a good starter in the minors and is a horse. I actually have my suspicions as to whether Capuano will reclaim a rotation spot. Well, whether he reclaims it from Warren (there's a good chance he gets one due to injury)

[Kimmi]

Does the data support that, Kimmi?

 

 

LOL Bell. Why do I get the sense that there's a "clutch" argument in that question somewhere?

 

I have no data to back my previous statement up (and I did search for some, ever so quickly), but I also haven't seen any that shows otherwise. That's one of those statements that I've heard repeated so often by managers and players that I just start accepting it as true. It could be complete hogwash. I need to find some data on the topic....

[Kimmi]

Kimmi, I think it was Betances role to lose and I think he is losing it. He did this in he minors a few times. He'd have runs of being absolutely lights out dominant followed by runs of loss of command and some velo. It's almost always mechanical with him. And with him, he can lose his mechanics based on how tight his head is screwed on.

 

 

Well if his head is not screwed on right, I don't think he's the guy you want as your closer. Either way, he was so dominant last year that a dropoff in performance was to be expected this season.

[Ogden]

Well if his head is not screwed on right, I don't think he's the guy you want as your closer. Either way, he was so dominant last year that a dropoff in performance was to be expected this season.

 

 

If someone's head is not screwed on right, is he a human bobble head? Just wondering.

[jacksonianmarch]

Well if his head is not screwed on right, I don't think he's the guy you want as your closer. Either way, he was so dominant last year that a dropoff in performance was to be expected this season.

 

I think Betances would have won the spot with a good spring, but it might be best for him if he didn't. Give him an extra season to prove he can repeat his dominance (although I doubt he is ever as dominant again as he was the best reliever in baseball last yr).