Yankees to sign McCann

[User Name]

Lol, if you need to rely on a single season to bash a move, them it's probably not accurate. They guy had a .799 OPS last yr. Prior to 2012, he was an annual .800+OPS guy. His 2012 was injury riddled. He started 2013 late and ran out of gas likely due to not having an offseason healthy. We'll see what happens now, but putting him behind the dish and in our stadium is gonna be sweet.

 

Didn't you do exactly that with the Victorino move?

[MNSoxChief102]

Always thought McCann would end up in pinstripes. Perfect fit for them, personality wise. Thinks he's the ultimate arbiter of the game being played the way they did it 100 years ago... no showboating on the bases in NY this year or he'll go nuclear. Guarantee he loves not having any facial hair and being a clean cut self righteous ******* just like the rest of Yanks. f*** him and f*** them all. Here's hoping he hits .225 and they miss the playoffs anyway next year.

[marklmw]

Always thought McCann would end up in pinstripes. Perfect fit for them, personality wise. Thinks he's the ultimate arbiter of the game being played the way they did it 100 years ago... no showboating on the bases in NY this year or he'll go nuclear. Guarantee he loves not having any facial hair and being a clean cut self righteous ******* just like the rest of Yanks. f*** him and f*** them all. Here's hoping he hits .225 and they miss the playoffs anyway next year.

 

Now tell us how you really feel!

[Palodios]

Lol, if you need to rely on a single season to bash a move, them it's probably not accurate. They guy had a .799 OPS last yr. Prior to 2012, he was an annual .800+OPS guy. His 2012 was injury riddled. He started 2013 late and ran out of gas likely due to not having an offseason healthy. We'll see what happens now, but putting him behind the dish and in our stadium is gonna be sweet.

 

Two seasons. The two most recent seasons.

[The Celtbot]

85 million for a guy who has hit below .270 4 years in a row? Not to mention he's injury plagued and it appears his best years are behind him. Well played yankees, keep on spending....

[Northern Star]

I like McCann, but he's almost certain to decline, and those injuries.....

[MNSoxChief102]

Now tell us how you really feel!

 

Yankees suck. That is all.

[pinstripezac]

There is no coincidence that the only two seasons we haven't made the playoffs this century, we had no stability at catcher (2008 Posada was hurt).

 

interesting point

 

let RSN chirp away bottom line we are a better team tonight

 

 

 

Andy McCullough ‏@McCulloughSL

 

One evaluator on McCann: "He's made for New York." Scouts gushing about how his swing will play in Yankee Stadium.

 

 

Pete Abraham

It's almost hard to explain how much of an upgrade this is for the Yankees offensively compared to last year. About as good as it gets.

[jacksonianmarch]

zac, as we deserve, we aren't gonna get our due after they win a world series. It wont be rectified until we are on top. This is a positive step, but it isn't the last one. There is a lot of work to do

[yankees228]

90 million for a guy who averaged 110 games , a 2.2 fWar, and a .740 OPS over the last two years on a team that has no room for him at DH, or 1B?

 

I smell desperation.

 

The key is health, of course. Probably worth mentioning, though, that he had the sixth highest wRC+ of any catcher last year. And by most accounts his receiving skills are quite good. If he stays healthy -- and, admittedly, that's a significant 'if' -- that sort of offense from the catching position combined with those sort of receiving skills is pretty valuable.

[vjcsmoke]

IMO .... I doubt that the Sox even want to sign Salty at 3/30. Salty sucks at receiving the ball ... he is the only MLB catcher that turns strikes into balls. Lester realizes this so he asked for Ross to catch for him. When Salty throws the ball it tales away ... left to right .... just terrible. I do not want him back and I am hoping that management feels the same. Hell, the FO would not even give him a QO cause that did not want for him to accept it.

 

Agreed. I don't want Salty back on a multiyear deal. The Sox have a lot of catching prospects they can bring up such as Vazquez and Lavarnway. As we saw in the WS, it's better to have a catcher who can defend, than one who makes mistakes that cost you runs.

 

Perhaps the Sox look at the trade market if they feel they don't have anyone ready for primetime, but I don't see why a platoon of Ross plus young catcher can't work.

 

For me this means that the Sox really need to make sure Napoli comes back and they get a vet CF to platoon with JBJ.

[Youk Of The Nation]

You had no pitching in 08 and '13.

 

At the risk of seeming like I don't hate the Yankees with a passion that burns hotter than the surface of Jupiter, (I do), this really isn't accurate. Pitching is basically the only reason the Yankees were in the Wild Card race up until the last couple weeks of the season. It was offense that they didn't have. They had Robinson Cano and beyond that, players that could charitably be called "a bunch of guys wearing the same uniform". The pitching tailed off during the last month or two of the season, but aside from Philol Hughes, pitching is what kept the Yankees clinging to relevance. Hiroki Kuroda would have won 20 games if he hadn't gotten the run support of a special-needs little league squad.

[marklmw]

Agreed. I don't want Salty back on a multiyear deal. The Sox have a lot of catching prospects they can bring up such as Vazquez and Lavarnway. As we saw in the WS, it's better to have a catcher who can defend, than one who makes mistakes that cost you runs.

 

Perhaps the Sox look at the trade market if they feel they don't have anyone ready for primetime, but I don't see why a platoon of Ross plus young catcher can't work.

 

For me this means that the Sox really need to make sure Napoli comes back and they get a vet CF to platoon with JBJ.

 

Agree but not with the platoon with JBJ ... Victorino can give him a day off now and again ... let's be patient and look more forward.

[seabeachfred]

Always thought McCann would end up in pinstripes. Perfect fit for them, personality wise. Thinks he's the ultimate arbiter of the game being played the way they did it 100 years ago... no showboating on the bases in NY this year or he'll go nuclear. Guarantee he loves not having any facial hair and being a clean cut self righteous ******* just like the rest of Yanks. f*** him and f*** them all. Here's hoping he hits .225 and they miss the playoffs anyway next year.

 

Wow, who is this guy? Sounds like my kind of fan. I do think it is a good move for the Yanks in the short term. It depends how long they can hold onto A-Fraud and whether Teixiera can make a full recovery and give them the three years he owes them. For sure they will be better behind the plate next year but they still have their share of holes. Well, we have a couple too.

[marklmw]

The key is health, of course. Probably worth mentioning, though, that he had the sixth highest wRC+ of any catcher last year. And by most accounts his receiving skills are quite good. If he stays healthy -- and, admittedly, that's a significant 'if' -- that sort of offense from the catching position combined with those sort of receiving skills is pretty valuable.

 

Having the 6th highest WRC+ of a catcher is not saying much. You better home that you sign Cano ... you loose Cano and you are toast because McCann ain't going to come close to filling that gap. How does the starting rotating look for the Yanks next year?

[yankees228]

Having the 6th highest WRC+ of a catcher is not saying much. You better home that you sign Cano ... you loose Cano and you are toast because McCann ain't going to come close to filling that gap. How does the starting rotating look for the Yanks next year?

 

I don't disagree that McCann doesn't come close to filling the void left by Cano, but how is the 6th highest wRC+ for a catcher not saying much? At a position where offensive production is scarce, McCann is one of the best in baseball. That is definitely significant.

[marklmw]

I don't disagree that McCann doesn't come close to filling the void left by Cano, but how is the 6th highest wRC+ for a catcher not saying much? At a position where offensive production is scarce, McCann is one of the best in baseball. That is definitely significant.

 

Not to be disrespectful but you answered your own question. McCann will help you for one or two seasons but it is your Starting Rotation and the lose of Mariano that seems to be where you are lacking the most.

[yankees228]

Not to be disrespectful but you answered your own question. McCann will help you for one or two seasons but it is your Starting Rotation and the lose of Mariano that seems to be where you are lacking the most.

 

Catcher was the worst position on the entire roster last year. A move can be significant even if it doesn't immediately make them legitimate contenders. Other moves would need to follow, but McCann is a significant piece, if he produces like he is capable.

 

And I didn't answer my own question at all lol.

[marklmw]

Catcher was the worst position on the entire roster last year. A move can be significant even if it doesn't immediately make them legitimate contenders. Other moves would need to follow, but McCann is a significant piece, if he produces like he is capable.

 

And I didn't answer my own question at all lol.

 

Just curious what you think of your Starting Rotation and Pen?

[yankees228]

Just curious what you think of your Starting Rotation and Pen?

 

Very concerned about the starting rotation, obviously. They need to probably bring in two quality starting pitchers this offseason if they plan on being legitimate contenders. As for the bullpen, obviously losing Mo hurts, but it's always important to remember the volatile nature of bullpens -- and how difficult they are to plan out in the offseason. But they definitely need one quality, non-closer arm.

[User Name]

Very concerned about the starting rotation, obviously. They need to probably bring in two quality starting pitchers this offseason if they plan on being legitimate contenders. As for the bullpen, obviously losing Mo hurts, but it's always important to remember the volatile nature of bullpens -- and how difficult they are to plan out in the offseason. But they definitely need one quality, non-closer arm.

 

Truer words have never been spoken.

[redsoxrules]

And someone told me I was crazy that McCann was going to fetch close to 100M

[User Name]

Yanks are crazier than you are obviously.

[marklmw]

Very concerned about the starting rotation, obviously. They need to probably bring in two quality starting pitchers this offseason if they plan on being legitimate contenders. As for the bullpen, obviously losing Mo hurts, but it's always important to remember the volatile nature of bullpens -- and how difficult they are to plan out in the offseason. But they definitely need one quality, non-closer arm.

 

What options are out there for SP? I do not think that the Yankees have the prospects to get in on David Price. Not to kick the Yankees when they are down but it looks like a long road back. Of course 2013 was an amazing surprise for the Sox's so certainly there are not absolutes.

[pinstripezac]

What options are out there for SP? I do not think that the Yankees have the prospects to get in on David Price. Not to kick the Yankees when they are down but it looks like a long road back. Of course 2013 was an amazing surprise for the Sox's so certainly there are not absolutes.

 

I think the yankee pitching looks fine............................................. for nov

 

if kuroda comes back adding tanaka and a FA like garza should put them in a very good spot

 

Bcash has already said he planned to add 400 quality innings

 

 

 

 

 

a long road back

 

ha they were in the alcs last yr

Edited November 24, 2013 by pinstripezac

[iortiz]

I wanted McCann badly, but 85 M/5 Y is ridiculous for a C.

[marklmw]

I think the yankee pitching looks fine............................................. for nov

 

if kuroda comes back adding tanaka and a FA like garza should put them in a very good spot

 

Bcash has already said he planned to add 400 quality innings

 

 

 

 

 

a long road back

 

ha they were in the alcs last yr

 

There are rumors Kemp for Sabathia ... any chance of that happening. I am hoping that the Sox sign Tanaka.

[pinstripezac]

I don't think you heard rumors

more like a writer having fun with his ideas

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/67124/cameron-sabathia-for-kemp

 

sure would help the sooner the posting for tanaka can get started

 

so which SP would you trade if you got tanaka

[BornToRun]

One point that's been raised and I wholeheartedly agree with:

 

I can't wait until Big Papi pimps his Moonshots with this self-righteous ******* behind the plate.

[BSN07]

I wouldn't have minded McCann but I would have not been overly excited for that contract. Jacko raises a good point that he can move to 1B in 3 seasons which imo will help the back end of that contract. If he's able to produce and stay at C and play 120-130 games a year for the next 3 seasons it will be a solid deal. If he struggles to produce over that time or misses time due to injury the deal will be a train wreck. Overall the Yanks need a C and they went and got the best talent at that position on the market. And guys this does not overly hurt them with the LT, before the signing they had like 90M before hitting the LT tax in committed contracts.