8/27 vs The Dead Birds

[mvp 78]

If your life depended on it, you'd do nastier s***, and so would everyone.

 

I thought he was Caligula?

[Bellhorn04]

Because the Sox will invariably face more and better starting pitching as a percentage of total games played in the post season than they face in the regular season and it won't even be close to comparable. Teams don't get to the post season because they mash. Some teams get there cause they pitch AND mash but teams that just mash are dead and too stupid to fall over.

 

They will face more starting pitchers that control the game and take the ball to the 8th or 9th innings. In a seven game series, individual games count for a lot. Lets say you face starting pitchers that take the ball through the 7th inning in two games out of seven. Well that could be a team with one dominant pitcher and I don't think the Sox would stand much chance of winning even one of those games especially without Buch or I should say without the Buch we had. That would leave them having to win four out of the remaining five. Those are tough odds. That is also why a big stud at the top of the rotation is more meaningful post season than regular season.

 

So you're saying going up against lights-out starters could give us problems. I agree, but I think that's a problem for just about every offense in history.

[Youk Of The Nation]

If your life depended on it, you'd do nastier s***, and so would everyone.

 

But I couldn't live with myself afterwards, so it would be pointless.

[User Name]

But I couldn't live with myself afterwards, so it would be pointless.

 

If you can live with yourself right now.....you'll manage.

[Youk Of The Nation]

If you can live with yourself right now.....you'll manage.

 

Touche.

[Bellhorn04]

Let's go you s***** Angels!

[User Name]

Touche.

 

See? I can snap off a good one every once in a while without inciting civil war......you should call me a name now so we can keep up good ol' Talksox tradition.

[jung]

So you're saying going up against lights-out starters could give us problems. I agree, but I think that's a problem for just about every offense in history.

 

Correct but if you have the stud to offset that (enter Buch) then you are in those games as opposed to being rolled over in those game. Gotta get Buch back and by post season he has got to be the Buch he was. No other starting pitcher we have can match that sort of pitcher and they are out there headed for post season play. Price could do it. Darvish could do it. But I think those two are almost but not quite as likely to lay a post season egg. I don't fear those two teams cause their "studs" are less likely to get it done and dominate in a game. They could do it and I would not be surprised. However it would not be a total shock if they went out there and laid a post season egg either. Scherzer is the most obvious guy that can do it of the teams likely to get to the post season.

 

Somebody posted that he would love to see Price and Darvish head to head, mano a mano post season. That might be a scoreless game into the 9th.

[mvp 78]

I'm glad WMB has come back hot. Seems like a good guy.

[Youk Of The Nation]

See? I can snap off a good one every once in a while without inciting civil war......you should call me a name now so we can keep up good ol' Talksox tradition.

 

I'm trying to think of one I haven't already called you.

[Thunder]

Shane's doing it all tonight.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Damn, Victorino.

[jung]

Vic is the guy I voted as my favorite Red Sox player other than the obvious choices. Have always loved his game and thought getting him here was a great move even if partially motivated by a desire to protect against Ells leaving before JBJ was ready to come up.

[Bellhorn04]

7 ribbies for Victorino. What a night for him.

[Jasonbay44]

Holy s***, Victorino with 7 RBI? Damn!

[Station 13]

Shane with more rbis tonight than Pedey in the last month.

[sk7326]

Because the Sox will invariably face more and better starting pitching as a percentage of total games played in the post season than they face in the regular season and it won't even be close to comparable. Teams don't get to the post season because they mash. Some teams get there cause they pitch AND mash but teams that just mash are dead and too stupid to fall over.

 

They will face more starting pitchers that control the game and take the ball to the 8th or 9th innings. In a seven game series, individual games count for a lot. Lets say you face starting pitchers that take the ball through the 7th inning in two games out of seven. Well that could be a team with one dominant pitcher and I don't think the Sox would stand much chance of winning even one of those games especially without Buch or I should say without the Buch we had. That would leave them having to win four out of the remaining five. Those are tough odds. That is also why a big stud at the top of the rotation is more meaningful post season than regular season.

 

Truth here - but at the same time, you see starters get knocked out earlier - not because they pitch worse, but that (and there have been a lot of scouting and coaching sorts who talk about this) higher leverage pitches tire pitchers faster. The outings are just more stressful. Also, hooks are a LOT quicker in October (as well they should be).

[User Name]

I'm trying to think of one I haven't already called you.

 

I don't think you've called me "vaginal discharge". How about that?

 

Oh, and goddamn Vic.

[sk7326]

Shane with more rbis tonight than Pedey in the last month.

 

it's fun to show up with guys on base

[Thunder]

Holy s***, Victorino with 7 RBI? Damn!

 

We got our own Alfonso Soriano

[Bellhorn04]

Shane with more rbis tonight than Pedey in the last month.

 

Pedroia's had 14 hits in the last 8 games though.

[Brennan]

Victorino brings that Kevin Millar type attitude to the team as well, just seems like he's happy to be playing baseball.

[sk7326]

Sox have 8 hitters with above league average OBPs in today's starting lineup ... and Middlebrooks has his numbers dragged down from the early season obviously. THAT is how you generate a lot of runs.

[BornToRun]

I repeat, Shane Victorino must really, really, f***ing hate birds.

[Bellhorn04]

It's amazing that a guy with the name Taylor Teagarden would become a major league catcher.

[Brennan]

In an unrelated note, MLB has now made it mandatory for the Jays to wear dunce caps when they play the yankees from now on.

[jung]

But I thought Soriano had cooled or somebody said. I doubt it matters. The skanks ain't gettin' there. It is not the number of games back it is the number of teams they have to climb over...too many I think.

[Brennan]

I think Soriano launched one tonight actually.

[a700hitter]

I think Soriano launched one tonight actually.

He hit 2

[Youk Of The Nation]

K-Rod pitching 8th-inning mopup for the Orioles in August. How the mighty have fallen.