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SS- Nomar's 1999:

 

.357/418/.603 1.022 153 OPS+ smack dab in the middle of the roid era. 27 HR, 42 2B, 4 3B, 15 SB (gravy), 104 RBI, 103 R

 

No love for Petrocelli's 168 OPS+ in 1969? Should at least be first off the bench.

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I think Babe Ruth in 1919 is worthy of a reserve spot as a LF. He hit .322 .456 .657 in the dead ball era for an OPS+ of 217.

 

Ok, that's a terrific season. He hit more homers that year than some *teams* did. But man, that leaves out some incredible seasons for left-fielders, like:

 

- Jim Rice, 1978

- Manny Ramirez, 2001-2005

- Mike Greenwell, 1988

 

But that's cool. Ruth gets a spot.

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Dwight Evan's 1984 is probably as good as it gets for RF: .295/.388/.532 .920 OPS, 147 OPS+, 32 HR, 104 RBI, 121 R

 

Plus his defense would've given you a chubby.

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Still have some offensive sub spots available, and lots of pitchers' slots. I am curious for that last MIF spot whether it'll go to Pedroia or Cronin (or maybe someone else, but those are my two leading candidates).
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I put in Paps' 2007 season, Cy Young's 1901 season, and Ortiz' 2006 season, where he hit 54 homers (it was a tough call between his 2005 and 2006 seasons).

 

EDIT - changed Paps' season to his 2006 year.

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Good to hear some talk about the WWI, pre-Yawkey era. When the Red Sox were the dominant AL team, and the Yankees were strictly 2nd division. I guess known then as the Highlanders. You never hear too much about that era these days around Fenway. There is almost no recognition of those great players. Babe Ruth, for example, is virtually ignored. He was in fact regarded as the best player in Baseball when he was a top pitcher/right fielder for the Sox. Imagine what would happen today if a player like that suddenly got "sold." Salary dumps are common, sure, but this was no salary dump. He was sold for big money.

Plus a dozen other top players also--to the Yankees and other teams. The best Red Sox players suddenly changed uniforms and became Yankees. Plus Ed Barrow, who pioneered scouting and the farm system for the Red Sox--sent to the Yankees. The result was the Yankees became Champions, and the Red Sox became chumps. There were strikes in Boston over it. All forgotten today--except for the rivalry. That started it.

 

The explanation for all this has always been the Red Sox owner, Harry Frazee, was a New Yorker who needed money to finance his Broadway shows. I've always suspected more than that. The upstart AL, led by Ban Johnson, wanted to establish a top team in NY to compete with the NL Giants for recognition.

The Yankees were rebuilt, with a new stadium tailored for Ruth, and a new cast consisting of some of the Red Sox best players. The result is history.

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Smoky Joe Wood (1912) SP

 

34-5, 1.91 ERA, 258 K

 

He was a big part of what was the first dynasty in MLB history. The Red Sox won four times that decade and they won five of the first 15 World Series. And that doesn't include 1904, when the New York Giants refused to even play them in the World Series.

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I have to argue that Evans had a better season in '87 than in '84. 157 OPS+ in '87, as opposed to a 147 OPS+ in '84. Also, he had more HR's, RBI's, higher BA, OBP, SLG%, and OPS in '87.
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I have to argue that Evans had a better season in '87 than in '84. 157 OPS+ in '87, as opposed to a 147 OPS+ in '84. Also, he had more HR's, RBI's, higher BA, OBP, SLG%, and OPS in '87.

 

You would be right. The only reason i chose '84 over '87 is because he led the league in OPS, runs scored, games played, and plate appearances. It was also a career year in terms of TB and XBH.

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You would be right. The only reason i chose '84 over '87 is because he led the league in OPS, runs scored, games played, and plate appearances. It was also a career year in terms of TB and XBH.

 

Good points. In terms of competition, that is a legitimate argument.

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You would be right. The only reason i chose '84 over '87 is because he led the league in OPS, runs scored, games played, and plate appearances. It was also a career year in terms of TB and XBH.

 

Any stats from 87 should be ignored. That was probably the first year of the golden era of steroids in baseball. I remember people saying it was because of the balls they were using. Nope, it was because players' balls were shrinking.

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Keith Foulke's 2004 should be included in the RP list both because of the numbers he posted and historical importance. Jason Varitek's 2004 season should be a strong contender for the bench C spot as well. Rico Petrocelli's 1969 for the MIF spot, and give the CIF to someone else.
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Dutch Leonard 1914: 19-5, 0.96 ERA, 282 ERA+, 0.886 WHIP.... Oh Lawd

 

 

And I'd argue that Papelbons 2006 was one of the most dominant seasons by anyone, ever.

 

4-2, 0.92 ERA, 35 SV, 7 ER, 0.776 WHIP, a 517 ERA+, and 5.0 WAR from a guy who only pitched 68 innings.

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Keith Foulke's 2004 should be included in the RP list both because of the numbers he posted and historical importance. Jason Varitek's 2004 season should be a strong contender for the bench C spot as well. Rico Petrocelli's 1969 for the MIF spot, and give the CIF to someone else.

 

Mike Lowell 07?

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I was thinking of Vaughn's 1996 season.

 

But Vaughn couldn't play 3b. Was thinking of Mikey's defensive versatility.

 

Don't get me wrong though, I have a lot of love for "the hit dog."

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But Vaughn couldn't play 3b. Was thinking of Mikey's defensive versatility.

 

Don't get me wrong though, I have a lot of love for "the hit dog."

 

Adrian Beltre 2010 would be a solid candidate for the reserve CIF spot

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