Trades before the deadline?

[a700hitter]

Mike Morse is very much available is what MLBtraderumors is saying. He could be the power bat from the Right Side that the Sox need down the stretch.

i hope ben atleast looks into it. He may just be a rental and shouldnt cost and significant prospects so i think it would be worth it.

He would take ABs away from Gomes. I don't think that he would be such an upgrade over Gomes to justify making the deal.

[Behindenemylines]

Mike Morse is very much available is what MLBtraderumors is saying. He could be the power bat from the Right Side that the Sox need down the stretch.

i hope ben atleast looks into it. He may just be a rental and shouldnt cost and significant prospects so i think it would be worth it.

 

He didn't look to good last night, we don't need another high K guy. Peavy trade allows them to move Workman to the pen. That was the Sox original plan for him.

[sk7326]

Here's an idea: Since the Sox essentially gave up very little to get Peavy, what if the Phillies budge on Lee at the last minute? Would y'all do JBJ + Doubront + WMB for Lee (70% salary) and Young (have to take him off their hands)?

 

At this point, I think the Phillies have to call Boston and ask for their best offer. If Boegarts was the starting point - no way. I don't blame Philly for asking but this is not 25 year old former WS MVP Josh Beckett we are talking about, though Lee is a no doubt elite starter today. Cherington did a nice job turning 2 abnormally good months of Jose Iglesias and a few guys who were not among our high impact prospects into a solid #3 starter with a good contract and a reliever with some upside. (I will be curious to see the writeups about the prospects going - but I doubt they are anything we will lose sleep over) $14.5M sounds like a lot of money and obviously it is by real world standards - but considering the price of starting pitching in the FA market, Peavy's deal now is pretty reasonable.

[BornToRun]

As far as Lee goes, I make a low offer that doesn't consist of Xander, JBJ, Garin, Barnes, Owens, or Webster(okay maybe Webster) and tell him it's the best they're gonna get. If Amaro is desperate and says yes, awesome. If not, no big deal.

[Orange Juiced]

As far as Lee goes, I make a low offer that doesn't consist of Xander, JBJ, Garin, Barnes, Owens, or Webster(okay maybe Webster) and tell him it's the best they're gonna get. If Amaro is desperate and says yes, awesome. If not, no big deal.

 

At this point, seriously, if they added Lee for four prospects in the 10-20 range in the Sox' system, awesome. But then what in the world do they do with all these SP? Lester, Lee, Peavy, Dempster, Lackey, Doubront, with Buchholz hopefully returning. I mean, not a terrible problem to have, but it would be a problem.

[User Name]

Having "too much pitching" always works itself out. Next thing you know, Buch doesn't come back and one of the other guys get injured.

[BornToRun]

Having "too much pitching" always works itself out. Next thing you know, Buch doesn't come back and one of the other guys get injured.

 

This. It's a full on guarantee that the pitching is going to work itself out. Always does.

[a700hitter]

I would really like to pick up Howie Kendrick to play 3rd. He would be the incumbent next year unless WMB can win the job-- then Kendrick could move to 1st.

[sk7326]

OK, so we had: Drew-Iglesias-Snyder as the SS-3B combo.

 

After trade, Workman to pen, Peavy to rotation ... some odd man out of the bullpen ...

 

That leaves: Middlebrooks/Boegarts, Drew, Holt/Snyder.

I'd think if it's Middlebrooks, Holt as a platoon partner makes some sense.

If it's Boegarts, Snyder makes sense so Boegarts can spell Drew at SS occasionally.

[BornToRun]

Sources saying Lee isn't getting moved today FWIW.

[sk7326]

Sources saying Lee isn't getting moved today FWIW.

 

Makes sense. Amaro has too much invested in this aging roster to tear it apart, even if that is the smart move. I do think he had to show he is listening on Lee so his fans didn't think he was a complete idiot.

[qs210]

Are we being linked to kendrick? Only thing I keep reading about is Young. Who I really dont want. Terrible defensively and hasnt been the same at the plate in two years.

[a700hitter]

It looks like Young will be our third baseman

 

Michael Young Willing To Approve Trade To Red Sox

By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 10:27am CST]

The latest on Phillies third baseman Michael Young:

 

•Young has changed his mind and is now willing to waive his no-trade clause to go to the Red Sox, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Previously, he was only willing to go back to the Rangers.

[BornToRun]

Doesn't necessarily mean we'll trade for him. I wonder what Philly wants.

[User Name]

I will flip my s*** if they trade for Young.

[a700hitter]

I will flip my s*** if they trade for Young.

Would you change your signature?

[qs210]

It looks like Young will be our third baseman

Ugh. Would be VERY disappointing.

[sk7326]

I think there is little chance of it being Young unless it is as a straight dump for cash and PTBNL. Would be disappointed if it were anything else. That they did not immediately promote Middlebrooks tells me they are very seriously considering whether Boegarts could do this a la Machado last season. Machado was also a SS by trade, who was holding his own at a crazy young age in high minors.

[User Name]

Would you change your signature?

 

Immediately.

[qs210]

It looks like Young will be our third baseman

 

Doesn't necessarily mean we'll trade for him. I wonder what Philly wants.

It wouldn't take much. They have his replacement lined up in asche. They just want to dump his salary.

[Disciples_of_Mueller]

Cafardo: "Red Sox sniffing on Padres reliever Luke Gregerson."

 

[qs210]

It looks like Young will be our third baseman

 

I think there is little chance of it being Young unless it is as a straight dump for cash and PTBNL. Would be disappointed if it were anything else. That they did not immediately promote Middlebrooks tells me they are very seriously considering whether Boegarts could do this a la Machado last season. Machado was also a SS by trade, who was holding his own at a crazy young age in high minors.

Thats my thought as well. To say the only thing holding Bogaerts back is his defense at 3rd(lack of time) then trade for probably the worst defensive 3rdbaseman in the league makes negative sense.

[dupree]

Only way i liked Young was if he was packaged with Lee. He would be too pricey for our utility infielder. Im surprised that they havent promoted WMB or Xander yet. A platoon of Snyder or Holt cant be the plans for the rest of the year. And Young would just block WMB and take away his chance of showing what hes got and being the 3B of the future like he took away from Youk lastyear. I hope Young is not in Ben's plans i would let the kids play.

 

Also if Ben was calling the Phillies i would hope he would be checking on Lee or Papelbon. Yes i said Pap because with his comments maybe Amaro will let him go for pennies on the dollar. Im still a lil nervous about having Uehara as our closer. I think another bullpen arm is our biggest need not a 3B who is gonna block our farm kids from coming up. Im not saying Pap is the best option but if i were Ben id atleast check.

[User Name]

Uehara has been superior to Papelbon in absolutely every significant category this season. Why you'd be "nervous" about Uehara and not Papelbon, who has seen declines in velocity, K rate and HR rate is beyond me. Look past the name.

[NativeBostonian]

Uehara has been superior to Papelbon in absolutely every significant category this season. Why you'd be "nervous" about Uehara and not Papelbon, who has seen declines in velocity, K rate and HR rate is beyond me. Look past the name.

 

Couldn't agree more. Pap isn't worth the money or the players that would be needed to get him.

[sk7326]

Only way i liked Young was if he was packaged with Lee. He would be too pricey for our utility infielder. Im surprised that they havent promoted WMB or Xander yet. A platoon of Snyder or Holt cant be the plans for the rest of the year. And Young would just block WMB and take away his chance of showing what hes got and being the 3B of the future like he took away from Youk lastyear. I hope Young is not in Ben's plans i would let the kids play.

 

Also if Ben was calling the Phillies i would hope he would be checking on Lee or Papelbon. Yes i said Pap because with his comments maybe Amaro will let him go for pennies on the dollar. Im still a lil nervous about having Uehara as our closer. I think another bullpen arm is our biggest need not a 3B who is gonna block our farm kids from coming up. Im not saying Pap is the best option but if i were Ben id atleast check.

 

If you are worried about 1) Uehara's durability or 2) wasting a guy as good as Uehara on pure 9th inning duty ... then having Papelbon for a song is worth investigating. But as far as who the better pitcher is - it's not really a contest. Papelbon has been living off of reputation since 2008.

[italstallianion]

I am also nervous about the number of reliable relievers in our pen and the overuse on Uehara/Tazawa, but I don't think Papelbon would solve the problem. Just because we saved prospects that we probably should have traded for Peavy, doesn't mean we have to trade them for Papelbon or Young.

[dupree]

Uehara has been superior to Papelbon in absolutely every significant category this season. Why you'd be "nervous" about Uehara and not Papelbon, who has seen declines in velocity, K rate and HR rate is beyond me. Look past the name.

I ve seen all the reports about Pap and all i was saying if Ben was calling the Phillies i would be calling about someone other that Young. I think we need a guy brought in before the deadline that can close if something does happen to Koji. I seen that Cafardo said we were in talks with the Padres on a reliever. I wished we had gotten Wilson but it is what it is. I guess im nervous that Koji will just burn out with all the work we are giving him.

[mvp 78]

If the Sox didn't want Paps' contract two years ago because of diminished returns in years 3 and 4, why would the trade prospects for him now and pick up the salary? It makes no sense unless Amaro eats 50% of the remaining salary.

[User Name]

It is doubtful the Red Sox will make a move for Young, tweets Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.

 

Keep pissing excellence Ben.