Trades before the deadline?

[User Name]

You could just as easily find big flaws in WMB as well. From his multiple injuries over the last year to his unfortunate strikeout numbers. CH will probably level out as a 20 HR hitter, but its hard to ignore the defense, speed, and OBP.

 

Certainly, but in the meantime, it would cost the Red Sox near league minimum to find out about WMB, and around 15 million per (plus prospects) to do so with Headley.

[redsoxfan3]

Can Aceves salvage any of his trade value today? I know that his trade value is almost nothing and that one game will not make a huge difference, but with Morales coming back and with Aceves being, in my mind, a clubhouse cancer, I would love nothing more than to see this guy get traded. Whether he has improved his attitude or not, I still think we should get him out of here.

[italstallianion]

It's a shame because he used to be a really valuable asset to the team. He was many strong pitches and is a durable arm. He was ideal for long relief.

[redsoxfan3]

It's a shame because he used to be a really valuable asset to the team. He was many strong pitches and is a durable arm. He was ideal for long relief.

 

I wish he could go back to his 2011 form. It is easier to put up with his shenanigans if he is pitching effectively. When he pitches poorly and acts like a clown, there is no need at all to have someone like that on our team.

[Williebingbing]

We need another bat in the bottom half of the lineup good enough to get it back to the top of the lineup consistently. It seems Salty has been the only solid guy to be getting that done. Such a fill in should be cheap. Any high dollar player is not going to want to have that role.

Last night was a great display of getting that done, but it does not happen often enough. Who? Well it is kinda difficult to identify who the really dependent average batters are, lol.

I already know I am being shortsighted with tunnel vision, but I am about ready to put Middlebrooks out as bait and see what kind of offers we get.

[dupree]

I say keep Middlebrooks down line. I say lets see what the kid has got. We have gotten a small sample of what his career is gonna be.

 

I would love for the Sox to get Stanton but i just dont see it. He will cost a ton of prospects that will potentially be good major leaguers, (fingers crossed) he is the face of the Marlins and no matter if he is healthy or not the Marlins will want a ton of prospects back. He would prolly kill the ball and have awesome #s in Fenway but the price to get him is just too high in my opinion.

 

I hope the Sox go after Cliff Lee at the deadline. But its still a lil early to see who all will be on the market, Lee is an ace and would love to see him in Boston. But the stretch leading up to the ASB is gonna make us be buyers or sellers, the schedule looks tough so im just holding on to hope we keep this up all year.

[Williebingbing]

Good points. Like I was saying, I realize I am being shortsighted regarding Middlebrooks, but the drop over the last 6 weeks or so has been bad.

Regarding Lee, I do not think we need to commit that much money to pitching. I like the potential of our rotation and our farm and I would rather invest that money in role players and save a little for the next young superstar that we can steel from someone, instead of letting either the yanks or angels get him.

[Spitball]

Regarding Lee, I do not think we need to commit that much money to pitching. I like the potential of our rotation and our farm and I would rather invest that money in role players and save a little for the next young superstar that we can steel from someone, instead of letting either the yanks or angels get him.

 

I agree. Lee is 34 years-old and earning $25 million a year for through his 36th birthday (and possibly his 37th). Starting pitchers typically see a decline after they reach their 34th birthday. Lee might be an exception, but why gamble prospects and that much salary?

[Dojji]

I still say that the most we should really consider right now is looking at a short term gap filler or backup 3B with enough pop to prevent the position from becoming a black hole.

 

I think Alberto Callaspo would make an interesting deadline target for that reason. I think he'd make good Middlebrooks insurance while being a guy Middlebrooks can definitely beat for the job when he's ready. I love what Carp's done for us, but I'd replace Carp with Callaspo and call that an upgrade to our team.

[User Name]

Why would the Angels trade Callaspo? They don't have a viable alternative at 3B.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I still say that the most we should really consider right now is looking at a short term gap filler or backup 3B with enough pop to prevent the position from becoming a black hole.

 

I think Alberto Callaspo would make an interesting deadline target for that reason. I think he'd make good Middlebrooks insurance while being a guy Middlebrooks can definitely beat for the job when he's ready. I love what Carp's done for us, but I'd replace Carp with Callaspo and call that an upgrade to our team.

 

No way man.

 

If the Sox acquire Callaspo, you replace Ciriaco. Carp has a ton of upside. He's still pretty young (27) and is one injured season off of a very solid year.

[Dojji]

I thought Ciriaco was already effectively gone, to be replaced by Iglesias. In order bring in Iglesias and Callaspo yo need to remove Ciriaco and someone else. Vic and WMB won't be out forever.

[User Name]

Or you don't bring Callaspo in because: A) Angels don't have another option, B ) He's not that good.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I thought Ciriaco was already effectively gone, to be replaced by Iglesias. In order bring in Iglesias and Callaspo yo need to remove Ciriaco and someone else. Vic and WMB won't be out forever.

 

Iglesias isn't going to be a bench player who plays once every 10 days. He's back in Pawtucket when WMB comes back.

[SoxSport]

Aceves is a hot-headed guy who was mishandled last year. He was forced into a variety of roles because of FO mistakes, and asked to do too much. The result was he imploded. This year, Farrell has had to undo the damage, without pointing any fingers--I should add--and so far he has done a respectable job, which culminated in last night's strong performance. Farrell shows an ability to handle players and their sensitivities which others in the organization could well learn from.

[SoxSport]

Iglesias isn't going to be a bench player who plays once every 10 days. He's back in Pawtucket when WMB comes back.

 

I think he's miscast as a utility player. He's a classic great field/no hit SS. Period. A Belanger, Ozzie Smith, Aparicio type--if he can just develop his hitting a bit more. He's young enough to make it happen. It's just that he's with an organization that doesn't allow kids to develop with the parent team.They stay in the minors until there's an opening.

[User Name]

Obviously the case with WMB, Pedroia, Lester, Buch, Ellsbury, etc.

 

Do you ever say something that's not blatantly false?

[Bellhorn04]

Aceves is a hot-headed guy who was mishandled last year. He was forced into a variety of roles because of FO mistakes, and asked to do too much. The result was he imploded. This year, Farrell has had to undo the damage, without pointing any fingers--I should add--and so far he has done a respectable job, which culminated in last night's strong performance. Farrell shows an ability to handle players and their sensitivities which others in the organization could well learn from.

 

Farrell does seem to be really good in that dept.

[SoxSport]

Dempster should be shipped back the NL. Showed why tonite. He might actually be worth close to $13 mil over there.

 

Aceves got shipped back to Pawtucket as a reward for last night's performance. Mortenson lives a charmed life--out of options. Mediocrity's secret to longevity.

[MJantomaso]

Dempster should be shipped back the NL. Showed why tonite. He might actually be worth close to $13 mil over there.

 

Aceves got shipped back to Pawtucket as a reward for last night's performance. Mortenson lives a charmed life--out of options. Mediocrity's secret to longevity.

 

He threw poorly tonight? I'm not quite getting what you are saying.

[Standing Room]

He threw poorly tonight? I'm not quite getting what you are saying.

 

Don't worry, you're hardly the only one.

[BSN07]

Dempster should be shipped back the NL. Showed why tonite. He might actually be worth close to $13 mil over there.

 

Aceves got shipped back to Pawtucket as a reward for last night's performance. Mortenson lives a charmed life--out of options. Mediocrity's secret to longevity.

 

Dempster had one really bad start and a couple mediocre but has been pretty good on the season as a whole. I was one of the biggest poo poo'ers when Dempster was signed but he's been good so far.

 

You really want to count on Aceves after one good start? Me personally I'd like to see how he reacts to being sent back down. Is he still in line or on the cusp of another meltdown.

 

Mortenson hasn't been great but if he can manage a decent month he probably has some value(maybe only as a add on in a package) towards the TDL.

[User Name]

Mortensen has (and will have, no matter what he does) zero trade value. Otherwise, your post is spot on.

[BSN07]

Mortensen has (and will have, no matter what he does) zero trade value. Otherwise, your post is spot on.

 

If he get's his ERA into the 4's that not bad for a mop up guy in most BP's. Like I said he probably be an add on. But that's one less cost controlled prospect with options they would have to trade.

[RedSoxNC84]

If he get's his ERA into the 4's that not bad for a mop up guy in most BP's. Like I said he probably be an add on. But that's one less cost controlled prospect with options they would have to trade.

 

Mortensen doesn't have any options though.

[mvp 78]

Mortensen doesn't have any options though.

 

Also, he's 28, not a prospect. He's not getting any better than he is right now.

[RedSoxNC84]

Also, he's 28, not a prospect. He's not getting any better than he is right now.

 

He's a prospect for a DFA.

[BSN07]

Mortensen doesn't have any options though.

 

I meant if he's the add on in a deal that would mean the Sox didn't have to give up a cost controlled prospect, not that Mortenson was the cost controlled player that was saved.

[User Name]

BSN, no one would want Mortensen even as an add-on as part of a deal for a player worth his weight in salt. In fact, i bet if they put him through waivers, he would pass unless the Astros claimed him.

[MJantomaso]

Mortensen has had the most kept up flavor saver in the league since Tim Salmon retired. To say he holds no trade value is complete ignorance.