Trades before the deadline?

[beeee_c]

The season is taking shape. Anyone have a wish list or projections about moves the Sox might make before the trade deadline?

[User Name]

I've read a couple sources saying Cliff Lee "wants to win", meaning he probably wants to get the f*** out of Philly. As much as i was against it because of the money he costs, if the team is competitive but needs to boost its starting pitching for the stretch run, i could see it happening.

[italstallianion]

And I imagine with the amount of money coming back to Philly we won't need to include much in the way of prospects, so that fits in our "compete now without jeopardizing our future" theme. And we can really use another top tier starter besides Lester/Buchholz and we can use someone like Doubront not starting once every 5 games.

 

Also I'll give him credit he pitched reasonably well this last time out.

[wyo-sox]

I wish they could pull off something to put Mauer in a Sox uniform. Helps us defensively and offensively. As he ages he can do more DHing when Ortiz is gone. His solid bat in our line up really transforms us into a solid contender. Just wondering if Twins want to keep paying him to stay on a last place team.

 

As far as pitchers, depending on the seriousness of his back issues, Bud Norris from Houston should be attainable for us to trade for.

[User Name]

Mauer makes way too much money and he's very injury-prone.

[Northern Star]

The right side of .800 OPS but nowhere near enough power for the $$$ - plus, as he ages he becomes a very expensive DH who, like User Name notes, is injury-prone. If Minnesota were willing to consume a huge percentage of the contract, I wouldn't say no, but that puts them in a bad spot financially and with their fanbase.

 

I'm just glad Lee didn't sign with the Yankees after how those animals treated his wife.

[MJantomaso]

Regardless of what you guys say, you would love to see Mauer in a Sox uni.

[User Name]

So i don't know what i think, but you do? That's a new one.

[italstallianion]

It's just like being in a relationship. "Let me tell you something about you that you don't know"

[Thunder]

I was watching MLB network earlier and someone said that the Sox might pursue Papelbon... That confuses the life out of me. With Hanrahan out, they still have Bailey, Tazawa, and even Uehara, so why get another closer?

[redsoxbeatz]

it'd be cool to know what was going to happen with 1B in the future. Something for the farm?

 

Let's see what the Red Sox look like at the end of June.

[Palodios]

I made the comment about Papelbon jokingly a few days ago. At the time, I thought he had 1.5 years left on his deal, but he likely has 3.5 left. Maybe if the Phillies pay half...

[User Name]

No Papelbon please.

[jacksonianmarch]

So you guys think that Cliff Lee will come for free because he makes a boatload of money? Lol, the Phillies will have someone eat his whole salary and send legit prospects. I guarantee it. The guy is still an ace

[italstallianion]

So you guys think that Cliff Lee will come for free because he makes a boatload of money? Lol, the Phillies will have someone eat his whole salary and send legit prospects. I guarantee it. The guy is still an ace

 

 

I think our point is that Lee isn't worth prospects AND a salary dump. He's probably not even worth his entire salary as a straight dump.

 

We're (or at least I'm) not saying that some team isn't going to be dumb enough to take on the majority of the salary and deal a top prospect. We don't think Cliff Lee will come for free, and therefore I don't think we want the Sox to deal for him.

 

Saying that he isn't worth it does not equal saying that a deal won't get done.

[wyo-sox]

it'd be cool to know what was going to happen with 1B in the future. Something for the farm?

 

Let's see what the Red Sox look like at the end of June.

 

Yes it will be interesting, really no matter how well the team plays this year it will probably look quite a bit different in a few key spots. 1B, SS, C, rotation spot, CF?????

[wyo-sox]

Mauer makes way too much money and he's very injury-prone.

 

I agree with the money. Injuries don't bother me. He's averaged 118 games a year playing primarily catcher. That's including his first season when only played 30 games. Take that year out and he's averaged 128 games a season.

[MJantomaso]

So i don't know what i think, but you do? That's a new one.

 

That is correct

[User Name]

That is correct

 

Good to know. So how do i really feel about Pitbull?

[MJantomaso]

Good to know. So how do i really feel about Pitbull?

 

I think you would rather have lit cigarettes put out on you than listen to his music.

[User Name]

I think you would rather have lit cigarettes put out on you than listen to his music.

 

SORCERY!

[Dojji]

Right now the top guy on my lust list has been and remains one Billy Butler. I know that's not really reasonable right now but there it is.

 

I do note that he would become available the deadline after Ortiz's current deal is up. But that's not what this thread is about.

[User Name]

What is it with you and Royals players? It's so weird....

[Behindenemylines]

We need a power bat that can play the corner OF. Gomes isn't getting it done, Nava's weaknesses get exposed the more he plays full time, and Victorina can't seem to stay healthy.

[a700hitter]

We need a power bat that can play the corner OF. Gomes isn't getting it done, Nava's weaknesses get exposed the more he plays full time, and Victorina can't seem to stay healthy.

He has 2 HRs in 87 ABs-- far below the power production expected when he signed. Without the occasional HR, he is pretty useless for 2yrs/$10 million.

[Bellhorn04]

We need a power bat that can play the corner OF. Gomes isn't getting it done, Nava's weaknesses get exposed the more he plays full time, and Victorina can't seem to stay healthy.

 

Nava's OPS right now is .894. You're making an assumption based on very little history.

[User Name]

Nava, as a 4th OF and platoon player who can clearly hit righties, is not the problem.

[Behindenemylines]

Nava, as a 4th OF and platoon player who can clearly hit righties, is not the problem.

 

As a 4th OF against lefty pitchers he is not the problem. If he plays every day against both righties and lefties then he is not the solution. If Gomes hit more HRs this year then the two make a great platoon which I think benefits both players over the course of the long season.

[User Name]

As a 4th OF against lefty pitchers he is not the problem. If he plays every day against both righties and lefties then he is not the solution. If Gomes hit more HRs this year then the two make a great platoon which I think benefits both players over the course of the long season.

 

He's not meant to play every day, that is why he is a 4th OF. The only reason he's not straight platooning with Gomes is because Victorino's injured.

 

As for Gomes, hitting a "few more homers" isn't the entire equation. He needs to hit in general with more power, and continue getting on base.

[Behindenemylines]

Nava's OPS right now is .894. You're making an assumption based on very little history.

 

I am agreeing with you that Nava is better over the course of the long season as a platoon player. My point was that you can't look at what he has done so far and project that he will be able to produce at that level for the whole year if he is consistenly playing against both righties and lefties. It is Gomes lack of production and Victorina injury problems that I orginally stated a need for a right handed power bat that can play the corner OF was a need.