Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Thread

[jacksonianmarch]

I am sure if Wilson was offered enough money he'd be in the bathroom with the razor in 2 minutes

[jacksonianmarch]

Yanks are doing a "background check" on Hamilton, whatever the hell that means

[SoxFanForsyth]

Yanks are doing a "background check" on Hamilton, whatever the hell that means

 

If the Yankees get Hamilton, kiss Cano goodbye.

 

With Hamilton and Cano, the Yanks will be left (in 2014) with CC, Hamilton, Cano, Tex, and ARod making $125mm. They will have CC - Nova - Phelps in their rotation. They'll have no SS. They'll have no 3B for around 65-70 games.

 

Not gonna happen with the $189mm cap.

[dupree]

Yanks are doing a "background check" on Hamilton, whatever the hell that means

 

I knew the Yankees were being too quiet

Hamilton might want to go there... hed hit 72+ hrs a year in that little league left field

 

But if they want to get under the cap signing hamilton is out of the question unless they want to only have 12 players listed on their 25 man roster... 6 positon players & 6 pitchers

[Lucienbel]

I knew the Yankees were being too quiet

Hamilton might want to go there... hed hit 72+ hrs a year in that little league left field

 

But if they want to get under the cap signing hamilton is out of the question unless they want to only have 12 players listed on their 25 man roster... 6 positon players & 6 pitchers

 

I could see them back loading a contract. As someone mentioned above, they could let Cano go, and it certainly seems like they will let Granderson go. That way, they could cheapen up on him for this year and next, and then get creative with other stuff down the road from there. They're certainly capable of getting him, and I assume this is how they would do it even though I don't think they've ever done something like that before. Granted, this would really be banking on them and the prospects they have close to breaking in working out good it seems.

[dupree]

I could see them back loading a contract. As someone mentioned above, they could let Cano go, and it certainly seems like they will let Granderson go. That way, they could cheapen up on him for this year and next, and then get creative with other stuff down the road from there. They're certainly capable of getting him, and I assume this is how they would do it even though I don't think they've ever done something like that before. Granted, this would really be banking on them and the prospects they have close to breaking in working out good it seems.

 

That very well could happen. Id hate it see Hamilton in Pinstripes but letting Grandson and Cano go could be what the Yankees do. If they sign him for a contract less than 5years id be divested. Id dont care if its Larry or Ben or John Henry who pulls the trigger on the Hamilton deal but someone better pull the trigger or make a huge trade for a big bat. But a bat bigger than Hamilton(when heathly) is gonna be hard to pull off

 

Hamilton in New York on a 3 or 4 year deal around 20million would lite a fire under

fans soo huge that for years to come boston fns would be calling for the heads of the FO officials.. If the owners wanted to make a spsh &sign get

[jacksonianmarch]

Back loading the contract does nothing for lux tax purposes. Contracts affect the cap based on AAV, not on yearly payout

[dupree]

I did not know that

I thought the salary paid for the season

 

Thank You

[jacksonianmarch]

I have a conspiracy theory of sorts here, one that I think is more fantasy than anything else. I honestly think the Yankees told Hamilton's camp to come back to them when he thinks he has his best offer. Here's why...

 

Hamilton's past will certainly limit the years someone will want to give him. Now, his big money will likely come in AAV, but the yrs will likely not exceed 4. Thus far, only the Mariners are linked to him at 4 yrs and who wants to play in Seattle? Also, the Yankees goal is to get under $189 million for 2014, so it wouldnt be completely prohibitive if you consider Hamilton and the Yankees more a Hamilton or Cano. Hear me out.

 

Cano is 15 months younger than Hamilton. Now, that is definitely a difference, but it isnt like it's a massive difference. Couple that with the likelihood that Cano is going to get a 7 yr deal and you're talking about signing a guy to a deal that will have a similar AAV through his age 38 season. We have seen how those deals are turning out in NY. In signing Hamilton, you'd be getting a guy for 4 yrs at probably the same AAV, but the deal will run out in a season where he turns 35. There is a much higher chance you see Josh still in his prime at the end of the deal (or near it) than Cano.

 

So....the one big name team the Upton dealings arent linked to is the Yankees. I am wondering if Cashman is waiting to see if they can get Hamilton on short yrs, then go for a Cano for Upton plus Bauer (who the DBacks have soured on) swap. That would open up 2b for 2 prospects who are big league ready (Joseph and Adams), it would fill our COF spots and allow us to deal Granderson to a team like Seattle who is desperate for OF power. The money in 2013 will be more but by 2014, the money would be quite a savings for NY since they wont have to re-sign Granderson to a similarly stupid long term deal.

[User Name]

I knew the Yankees were being too quiet

Hamilton might want to go there... hed hit 72+ hrs a year in that little league left field

 

But if they want to get under the cap signing hamilton is out of the question unless they want to only have 12 players listed on their 25 man roster... 6 positon players & 6 pitchers

 

Left-handed hitters pull the ball to right field, not left field.

[Bellhorn04]

It would be be beyond shocking to me to see the Yankees move Cano. That's just whack.

[User Name]

It would be be beyond shocking to me to see the Yankees move Cano. That's just whack.

 

You're probably the whitest person on this board.

[jacksonianmarch]

I know it sounds far out there, but it might be the best way to improve the ball club. Remember, we need to get under the cap next yr and Cano is going to get a longer term deal. Might have to make some tough decisions

[Meh]

I have a conspiracy theory of sorts here, one that I think is more fantasy than anything else. I honestly think the Yankees told Hamilton's camp to come back to them when he thinks he has his best offer. Here's why...

 

Hamilton's past will certainly limit the years someone will want to give him. Now, his big money will likely come in AAV, but the yrs will likely not exceed 4. Thus far, only the Mariners are linked to him at 4 yrs and who wants to play in Seattle? Also, the Yankees goal is to get under $189 million for 2014, so it wouldnt be completely prohibitive if you consider Hamilton and the Yankees more a Hamilton or Cano. Hear me out.

 

Cano is 15 months younger than Hamilton. Now, that is definitely a difference, but it isnt like it's a massive difference. Couple that with the likelihood that Cano is going to get a 7 yr deal and you're talking about signing a guy to a deal that will have a similar AAV through his age 38 season. We have seen how those deals are turning out in NY. In signing Hamilton, you'd be getting a guy for 4 yrs at probably the same AAV, but the deal will run out in a season where he turns 35. There is a much higher chance you see Josh still in his prime at the end of the deal (or near it) than Cano.

 

So....the one big name team the Upton dealings arent linked to is the Yankees. I am wondering if Cashman is waiting to see if they can get Hamilton on short yrs, then go for a Cano for Upton plus Bauer (who the DBacks have soured on) swap. That would open up 2b for 2 prospects who are big league ready (Joseph and Adams), it would fill our COF spots and allow us to deal Granderson to a team like Seattle who is desperate for OF power. The money in 2013 will be more but by 2014, the money would be quite a savings for NY since they wont have to re-sign Granderson to a similarly stupid long term deal.

 

There's no way we get Upton AND Bauer for Cano. I would deal Cano but I don't think we do. I'd actually deal away Cano, Granderson, and Hughes. I do agree Joseph and Adams seem like good options, now they're no Cano obviously but I wouldn't mind seeing them given a shot. Granderson to either the Rangers for Olt or the Mariners for Walker.

[redsoxrules]

Robinson Cano is due to hit free agency after next season, and Mark Feinsand and Christian Red of The New York Daily News hear the second baseman will not give the Yankees a hometown discount. One source said Cano could seek a contract in line with Alex Rodriguez's.

 

"He’s not giving them a hometown discount, and they seem to be more interested in keeping their payroll down than winning," said one source while another added: “He knows he’s the best player on the Yankees ... There’s no reason for him not to be paid that way.”

 

Cano, 30, hit .313/.379/.550 with a career-high 33 home runs this past season and has produced a .314/.365/.534 line with 115 homers over the last four seasons. He's also proven to be extremely durable, playing in no less than 159 games in each of the last six seasons.

 

The Yankees will have paid Cano a total of $57MM through next season as part of the extension he signed prior to 2008. They have upwards of $80MM slated to come off the books after 2013 but are trying to get under the $189MM luxury tax threshold in 2014 and don't figure to reinvest all of that into the team. Cano hired Scott Boras prior to 2011 and told the Daily News he would "love" to remain a Yankee, but added: "I know this is a business ... It’s up to them."

 

 

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#CXShRwkgPcWYu4Rr.99

 

Cano seeking Arod Contract ?

Good luck

[jacksonianmarch]

There's no way we get Upton AND Bauer for Cano. I would deal Cano but I don't think we do. I'd actually deal away Cano, Granderson, and Hughes. I do agree Joseph and Adams seem like good options, now they're no Cano obviously but I wouldn't mind seeing them given a shot. Granderson to either the Rangers for Olt or the Mariners for Walker.

 

Upton coming off a poor yr and Bauer effectively giving his instructors the big F you hasn't helped their cause. Plus, they're obviously going for it this yr and acquiring an MVP caliber middle infielder would help

[a700hitter]

Where does Pineda fit in the 2013 plans for the Yankees?

[jacksonianmarch]

Pineda's out til June. He'll then need to throw in the minors for a bit. He isn't being counted on

[Divinity]

Where does Pineda fit in the 2013 plans for the Yankees?

 

He doesn't, rotation is Sabathia, Pettitte, Kuroda, Hughes and Phelps/Nova competing for the 5th spot.

[jacksonianmarch]

Pineda may be an option after the ASB if he shows he's healthy in AAA

[BSN07]

Pineda may be an option after the ASB if he shows he's healthy in AAA

 

I wouldn't rush him. If he's not 100% he shouldn't be asked to help NY. It could help in the long run. Plus if he's in the minors all year it won't add to his service time right?

[a700hitter]

Yankees Likely To Re-Sign Ichiro

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 10 at 10:08am CST]

 

The Yankees will likely re-sign Ichiro Suzuki, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reported last night. The Yankees are showing strong interest in the free agent outfielder, Rosenthal writes. “They are all over him,” one person told FOX Sports.

 

If the sides complete a deal, Ichiro would join two other left-handed hitters in New York’s outfield: Curtis Granderson and Brett Gardner. The team is exploring the idea of adding a right-handed complement to the group, according to Rosenthal. However, bringing Ichiro back wouldn’t prevent the Yankees from re-signing the left-handed hitting Raul Ibanez.

 

Ichiro, a client of agent Tony Attanasio, would likely obtain a one-year deal from the Yankees, Rosenthal reports. A one-year deal would suit the Yankees, since they are aiming to avoid the $189MM luxury tax threshold by 2014. Ichiro ranked 40th on MLBTR’s list of top 50 free agents.

 

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reported on Friday that the Yankees continue to talk with Ichiro, who is now 39 years old.

If the Yankees sign Ichiro and Ibanez, they will have an all left handed outfield.

[BSN07]

I doubt they sign both.

[jacksonianmarch]

Kevin Youkilis is a yankee

[iortiz]

f***!

[jacksonianmarch]

It's a good move, but I'm not expecting 2009 Youk to walk thru the door. They have to split him between 3b and DH for the whole yr to keep him fresh.

[Station 13]

Nice pay day for an average player these days.

[jacksonianmarch]

I'm hoping for a .260/.340/.460 line

[MANNYHOF24]

Count of hands, who would rather have had Youk at first for one year 12 million rather than Napoli for 3 years and 39 million?

[jacksonianmarch]

I'd rather have Napoli at 1 yr $12 mil