Jose Iglesias

[Bellhorn04]

Drew has limited range. He may have slowed up a bit after the ankle injury.

 

UZR/150 takes range into account. I have read a fair number of comments on game threads about good plays he's made and how his defence is better than expected.

 

But at the end of the day I think Iglesias settling as the long term SS will be the best thing. They could trade Drew or keep him as backup. With Middlebrooks injured and no depth at 3B we might need Iggy, Drew and Ciriaco.

[User Name]

I don't think their FO agrees with you. They place more emphasis on offense at every position, which I think is a mistake. They look at Drew's career stats. That's what they go by. Plus the big salary he's getting. They are biased toward veterans over prospects.

They went with Bradley and Iggy early because was Bradley was a draw and Drew was hurt.

 

I think politics sometimes interferes with fielding the best team to win. That's true of a lot of organizations--but never the Yankees.

 

Yeah that's why they signed Victorino and Ross in the off-season.

[Standing Room]

I don't see the Drew vs. Iglesias thing as a major issue. They're both going to get playing time in the next couple of weeks. Once Middlebrooks comes back, I'd platoon them and use Iglesias as a late innings defensive replacement. Drew's a .272/.338/.442 hitter against righties and Iglesias is a .293/.326/.390 hitter against lefties.

[SoxSport]

UZR/150 takes range into account. I have read a fair number of comments on game threads about good plays he's made and how his defence is better than expected.

 

But at the end of the day I think Iglesias settling as the long term SS will be the best thing. They could trade Drew or keep him as backup. With Middlebrooks injured and no depth at 3B we might need Iggy, Drew and Ciriaco.

 

They are stuck with Drew right now. Nobody else will pay him $10 mil. From what I've seen, he's pretty slow getting to the ball. Iglesias is more the classic SS defensively. They won't improve their defense unless they accept a little less offense at a defensive position.

[SoxSport]

I don't see the Drew vs. Iglesias thing as a major issue. They're both going to get playing time in the next couple of weeks. Once Middlebrooks comes back, I'd platoon them and use Iglesias as a late innings defensive replacement. Drew's a .272/.338/.442 hitter against righties and Iglesias is a .293/.326/.390 hitter against lefties.

 

The key is what are you doing for me right now. Drew hasn't had a good year for several years--before his ankle injury. Iggy doesn't have enough at bats to draw any conclusions.

He's riding high right now.

[SoxSport]

Iggy is a spark in that lineup--getting on base. The kid is really overachieving. I like the effort.

[Disciples_of_Mueller]

Iggy is a spark in that lineup--getting on base. The kid is really overachieving. I like the effort.

 

Couldn't agree more. Awesome game yesterday, the AB of the game today, and consistently stellar defense. Hope he keeps it up.

[jung]

If this were Pro Hockey we would be calling some of the young guys "The Energy Line". They make tons of mistakes. They have much to learn to become polished, professional players but boy they can really spark things. The vets on this edition of the Sox appear to revel in its young players and so when there is a spark, we often get ignition. That has not always been the case here.

 

Sure when young guys are not going good, they get a little hang doggish at times. But that comes with the territory. On balance I would way prefer this to a team with no young guys or guys working their way up through the ranks in a position to contribute.

[BSN07]

Good thing Drew was playing last night

[redsoxfan3]

Realistically, do you guys think Iglesias has a chance to stick around once Middlebrooks and Victorino both come back? Morales is coming back tomorrow. He is going to either be in the pen or going to be filling in for Buchholz if he cannot make his next start. Depending on how Aceves does today, you have to think that Wilson or Aceves is going to get sent down to the minors when Morales comes back. That means when Victorino and Middlebrooks both get healthy that either Iglesias or Ciriaco gets sent down, plus either Aceves or Wilson, depending on who gets sent down when Morales comes back. Of course that is assuming there are no other injuries.

 

I like Iglesias over Ciriaco as the utility player. I know Ciriaco had a big game offensively a couple of nights ago, but he is still only hitting .227 and his defense has been pretty bad. Iglesias is by far the superior player defensively. I know he would not get as many at bats as the FO would like him to, but he has been solid offensively and has played good at 3B. Ciriaco does give you the option in the OF, but we still have Carp, Gomes, and Nava who can play LF and Nava and Victorino who can play RF. I am not sure if Ciriaco is out of options or not. All I know is that Iglesias has been playing well at the MLB level and I am sure he could handle second base if he needs to play if something were to happen to Pedroia (*knocking on wood*). We all know he can play SS and 3B already.

 

The option of him giving Middlebrooks an occasional day off and Drew and occasional day off, plus maybe being a late inning defensive replacement is ideal for Iglesias. Also, if Middlebrooks doesn't improve much when he gets back, Iglesias could be a realistic option at 3B if Middlebrooks is not performing.

[Standing Room]

Realistically, do you guys think Iglesias has a chance to stick around once Middlebrooks and Victorino both come back? Morales is coming back tomorrow. He is going to either be in the pen or going to be filling in for Buchholz if he cannot make his next start. Depending on how Aceves does today, you have to think that Wilson or Aceves is going to get sent down to the minors when Morales comes back. That means when Victorino and Middlebrooks both get healthy that either Iglesias or Ciriaco gets sent down, plus either Aceves or Wilson, depending on who gets sent down when Morales comes back. Of course that is assuming there are no other injuries.

 

I like Iglesias over Ciriaco as the utility player. I know Ciriaco had a big game offensively a couple of nights ago, but he is still only hitting .227 and his defense has been pretty bad. Iglesias is by far the superior player defensively. I know he would not get as many at bats as the FO would like him to, but he has been solid offensively and has played good at 3B. Ciriaco does give you the option in the OF, but we still have Carp, Gomes, and Nava who can play LF and Nava and Victorino who can play RF. I am not sure if Ciriaco is out of options or not. All I know is that Iglesias has been playing well at the MLB level and I am sure he could handle second base if he needs to play if something were to happen to Pedroia (*knocking on wood*). We all know he can play SS and 3B already.

 

The option of him giving Middlebrooks an occasional day off and Drew and occasional day off, plus maybe being a late inning defensive replacement is ideal for Iglesias. Also, if Middlebrooks doesn't improve much when he gets back, Iglesias could be a realistic option at 3B if Middlebrooks is not performing.

 

Yes, the fact that the Red Sox are starting Iglesias over Ciriaco tells you all you need to know. Iglesias has said he feels really comfortable here, he looks really comfortable here and it looks like he has the support of some veterans like Ortiz.

 

We have an extra pitcher right now. As soon as Aceves makes his start, he'll be sent down and Jackie Bradley Jr. will get called up because right now we don't have any backup who can play centerfield. When Morales comes back, either Mortensen or Wilson will probably be sent down. My guess would be Wilson since Mortensen is out of options. It could go either way though, Mortensen's been pretty bad so the team might not mind exposing him to waivers.

[redsoxfan3]

Yes, the fact that the Red Sox are starting Iglesias over Ciriaco tells you all you need to know. Iglesias has said he feels really comfortable here, he looks really comfortable here and it looks like he has the support of some veterans like Ortiz.

 

We have an extra pitcher right now. As soon as Aceves makes his start, he'll be sent down and Jackie Bradley Jr. will get called up because right now we don't have any backup who can play centerfield. When Morales comes back, either Mortensen or Wilson will probably be sent down. My guess would be Wilson since Mortensen is out of options. It could go either way though, Mortensen's been pretty bad so the team might not mind exposing him to waivers.

 

That is true. I really hope Iglesias stays. It seems like he could find a comfortable role as a utility guy. The positive is you will always get excellent defense from him no matter what. I am sure he will have his struggles at the plate, but that is expected.

 

We will have three guys that have to go. Morales is coming back tomorrow. Victorino and Middlebrooks will be back after their DL stints. Probably Aceves, Wilson, Mortensen, and Ciriaco are three of the guys that would be either sent to AAA or DFA'd (Mortensen). You do bring a valid point about Jackie Bradley Jr. He has been hitting great in AAA recently. I suppose he could come back until Victorino gets back, but I am not so sure if he will stay once Victorino gets back. We have Carp, Gomes, Victorino, Nava, and Ellsbury. One of Carp or Gomes would have to get traded probably for Bradley to stay.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Looks like the Sox are going to keep Iglesias up after WMB returns as the utility guy. Smart move, IMO. Just based on his performance, he seems to be learning more and getting better just by surrounding himself with Ortiz and Pedroia than by playing everyday in Pawtucket.

 

That said, I can't imagine the Sox not riding the hot hand here, especially since Drew is hitting .211. Drews defense has been solid, but lets be honest, Iglesias's defense is game changing. Tack on the fact that his average is literally double that of Drew (albeit with an unsustainable BABIP) and you have to let the kid play.

 

At some point you have to say "were not going to let a 1 year deal with Drew keep us from maximizing the development of Iglesias."

 

It's essentially the Middlebrooks/Youk situation from last year. Except I think the Sox could actually get a decent prospect for Drew.

[SoxFanForsyth]

As Tim Britton points out, keeping Iglesias up with Boston would open up a slot at SS for Bogaerts, who is 2-2 tonight and has 70 games now in AA and has an .890 OPS entering tonight's game.

 

Getting Bogaerts up to Pawtucket would enable a little more depth at 3B, which would've be extremely valuable. Plus, it could get him up to the bigs within the year.

[SoxSport]

http://www.sportsreelboston.com/2013/06/10/the-newfound-approach-of-jose-iglesias/

 

Here's a great take on Iglesias on his improved hitting. Thanks to Pedey, he has become more patient and selective. Next candidate for Pedey is Middlebrooks.

[mvp 78]

http://www.sportsreelboston.com/2013/06/10/the-newfound-approach-of-jose-iglesias/

 

Here's a great take on Iglesias on his improved hitting. Thanks to Pedey, he has become more patient and selective. Next candidate for Pedey is Middlebrooks.

 

Interesting article, but written poorly. Iggy will come down to earth. We just all want to know if he comes down to .280 or .220.

 

I've said all along that he should be the SS if he could hit .235 and take a few walks. Drew was my least favorite signing this year. I hope Iggy and Xander can compete for the job in ST next year.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jose Iglesias has a BABIP of .508. He is going to crash down to earth

[User Name]

You don't say? It's not like everyone, including the post right above yours, has presented this idea.

[Orange Juiced]

Interesting article, but written poorly. Iggy will come down to earth. We just all want to know if he comes down to .280 or .220.

 

I've said all along that he should be the SS if he could hit .235 and take a few walks. Drew was my least favorite signing this year. I hope Iggy and Xander can compete for the job in ST next year.

 

The Drew signing was a superb signing. Just one year, so you're free from him if you want to be after this season. After a rough start, which essentially for him was his spring training, he's been really good. Since May 6:

 

30 g, 15 r, 4 hr, 17 rbi, .267/.358/.476/.835, with good defense

 

If Iggy continues to impress, you could definitely move Drew at the trade deadline for something very useful. And if he doesn't, then Drew is playing SS at a high level for you anyway.

[MJantomaso]

Jose Iglesias has a BABIP of .508. He is going to crash down to earth

 

Really? I though he would hit 430 the rest of his career?

[mvp 78]

The Drew signing was a superb signing. Just one year, so you're free from him if you want to be after this season. After a rough start, which essentially for him was his spring training, he's been really good. Since May 6:

 

30 g, 15 r, 4 hr, 17 rbi, .267/.358/.476/.835, with good defense

 

If Iggy continues to impress, you could definitely move Drew at the trade deadline for something very useful. And if he doesn't, then Drew is playing SS at a high level for you anyway.

 

I realize his value. I just wanted it to be open competition during ST for SS to give the younger guys a chance. Drew is a fine player, I just didn't think we needed him.

[jacksonianmarch]

I think the ST competition will involve 3 players for 2 spots. Middlebrooks has been beaten out by Iglesias right now, which is why he's still in the minors. There is a possibility that Bogaerts beats out WMB for 3b next yr. Or, there is a chance Iglesias takes SS, WMB moves to 1b, and Bogaerts takes 3b

[mvp 78]

I think the ST competition will involve 3 players for 2 spots. Middlebrooks has been beaten out by Iglesias right now, which is why he's still in the minors. There is a possibility that Bogaerts beats out WMB for 3b next yr. Or, there is a chance Iglesias takes SS, WMB moves to 1b, and Bogaerts takes 3b

 

Considering the contracts up at year end, there could be competition for CF, C, 1b, SS and 3b. Who would've guessed that 3b could be a question mark? I think most posters had WMB pegged as a franchise player prior to season.

[jacksonianmarch]

Considering the contracts up at year end, there could be competition for CF, C, 1b, SS and 3b. Who would've guessed that 3b could be a question mark? I think most posters had WMB pegged as a franchise player prior to season.

 

WMB has always been a power first guy with lots of K's and a minimal amount of walks. Last yr, he was buoyed by a .335BABIP. This yr, he's been pretty unlucky with his BABIP of .237. 7 walks and 54K's in 174ABs isn't gonna get it done in Boston. I have a feeling he stays in AAA for awhile.

[SoxFanForsyth]

WMB has always been a power first guy with lots of K's and a minimal amount of walks. Last yr, he was buoyed by a .335BABIP. This yr, he's been pretty unlucky with his BABIP of .237. 7 walks and 54K's in 174ABs isn't gonna get it done in Boston. I have a feeling he stays in AAA for awhile.

 

Nice analysis.

 

Will Middlebrooks is nearing a return to the big leagues. Farrell suggested that there isn’t a set date for his return from a rehab assignment but that it will occur “soon.”

[redsoxfan3]

Will Middlebrooks is back in the majors. Ciriaco got DFA'd. It is obvious that Iglesias is going to be the utility player. I imagine Iglesias will be in some sort of rotation to start at 3B once every few games and at SS once every few games. He could also be a late inning defensive replacement. I am glad he finally got a spot on this roster.

[SoxFanForsyth]

WMB has always been a power first guy with lots of K's and a minimal amount of walks. Last yr, he was buoyed by a .335BABIP. This yr, he's been pretty unlucky with his BABIP of .237. 7 walks and 54K's in 174ABs isn't gonna get it done in Boston. I have a feeling he stays in AAA for awhile.

 

Nick Cafardo ‏@nickcafardo

In lineup posted outside Red Sox clubhouse Will Middlebrooks is back batting 8th.

 

lol.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Lmao

[BSN07]

Ciracio got DFA'd, not shocked, most saw this coming.

[seabeachfred]

http://www.sportsreelboston.com/2013/06/10/the-newfound-approach-of-jose-iglesias/

 

Here's a great take on Iglesias on his improved hitting. Thanks to Pedey, he has become more patient and selective. Next candidate for Pedey is Middlebrooks.

 

SoxSport, I think making Iggy the "utility" man right now is a slap in the face to the young player. I was never a big fan of his hitting prowess but he has shown that can hit up in the Bigs. Unlike our friendly Yankee resident I won't expect him now to crash and burn, but he certainly is coming back down to earth. Until then he needs to play to stay sharp and Farrell has to find the right way to do it. Our defense has been good of late and moving guys around can derail that. I have seen it with the Dodgers out here where I live and I'm told the Mets have had similar problems as have a couple of more teams.