Red Sox 2012/2013 Offseason Thread

[a700hitter]

Sox met with the Mets about Dickey today.

 

Mets asked for Bogaerts and Bradley Jr.

 

Hahahahahaha.

 

That's hilarious.

The Mets are ridiculous.

[bubbakeg52]

Ummm no, but that's the absolute limit. It would be a little scary.

 

hypocrite...Suck Fallen's dick in the morning

[SoxFanForsyth]

Rumors are that the Sox are in on Hamilton. I guess Cherries doesn't think pitching is a top priority. With the addition of Napoli and Gomes, the lineup would not have the over-weighted lefty problem that it had last season. There would be good balance.

 

It's certainly not that they don't think they need SP, but the positional players market has developed much faster than the SP market first off. Second, if this team is looking to deal for a SP via trade, then that typically takes a while to develop too.

 

Understandably, we all want the Sox to address the pitching, but at the same time you have to react to the market. You can't neglect your offense and look for pitching when offensive players are moving quicker.

 

I know it sucks that they haven't moved on a SP yet, but the SP market has hardly moved outside of Guthrie and Santana.

[Orange Juiced]

Rumors are that the Sox are in on Hamilton. I guess Cherries doesn't think pitching is a top priority. With the addition of Napoli and Gomes, the lineup would not have the over-weighted lefty problem that it had last season. There would be good balance.

 

If the rumor of Salty for Floyd is true, then yes, he's prepared to address the pitching situation. Floyd would be a nice addition to the rotation, and it appears the Sox have the goods to get him.

[a700hitter]

It's certainly not that they don't think they need SP, but the positional players market has developed much faster than the SP market first off. Second, if this team is looking to deal for a SP via trade, then that typically takes a while to develop too.

 

Understandably, we all want the Sox to address the pitching, but at the same time you have to react to the market. You can't neglect your offense and look for pitching when offensive players are moving quicker.

 

I know it sucks that they haven't moved on a SP yet, but the SP market has hardly moved outside of Guthrie and Santana.

That makes sense.

[BSN07]

hypocrite...Suck Fallen's dick in the morning

 

I thought when you sniffed Adderall it was supposed to make you focus better?

[jacksonianmarch]

The Mets are ridiculous.

 

They should be able to get one of them, realistically, since the guy is coming off a Cy Young season. Both would be pushing it. My guess is they deal him prior to the season to a desperate team like the Royals

[bubbakeg52]

New Yorker?

[jacksonianmarch]

I see Bubba is on his way to the ban hammer. Nice knowing you Bub

[BSN07]

That makes sense.

 

I said practically the same thing to you a couple days ago and you didn't want to hear it The Napoli signing def has brought some higher spirits to talksox

[Laser Show]

A lot of people seem to think that they're only working 1 potential deal at a time, when they've probably got at least 50 feelers out there. Just because they're signing Napoli and talking to Swisher and Hamilton, does not mean that they aren't talking to teams about pitchers.

[BSN07]

I see Bubba is on his way to the ban hammer. Nice knowing you Bub

 

I was going to say the same thing but I didn't want to provoke him too much as it may be awhile before a mod skims through.

[bubbakeg52]

I thought when you sniffed Adderall it was supposed to make you focus better?

 

New Yorker?

[SoxFanForsyth]

That makes sense.

 

Every once in a while my posts do.

 

I do think the Sox move Salty for Floyd, too. Both have 1 year left on their deals, Floyd making 9.5mm and Salty around 4.5mm.

 

I don't think Floyd turns this team around to a contender, but I think he's a nice step forward.

[bubbakeg52]

I'll read the bostondirtdogs tweets and see if you guys can get paid for the dumbiest ideas 1 week after the other.....AW Man

[BSN07]

They should be able to get one of them, realistically, since the guy is coming off a Cy Young season. Both would be pushing it. My guess is they deal him prior to the season to a desperate team like the Royals

 

You can't be serious If the Sox had tried to acquire saome teams top prospect for Wakefield at his peak(I believe he had a couple seasons he got Cy Young votes) you would have laughed everyone out of the room.

 

 

The Mets are not getting anyones top prospect. They were probably trying to judge how hard the team laughed at them to see how far down the line they should start

[bubbakeg52]

I already helped the organization with my posts ....

[BSN07]

I already helped the organization with my posts ....

 

Very good bubba.

[bubbakeg52]

August 2011 they were talking Gonzalez to LA.

[SoxFanForsyth]

They should be able to get one of them, realistically, since the guy is coming off a Cy Young season. Both would be pushing it. My guess is they deal him prior to the season to a desperate team like the Royals

 

Yes.

 

The 38 year old RA Dickey should bring back a top 30 prospect.

 

[jacksonianmarch]

You can't be serious If the Sox had tried to acquire saome teams top prospect for Wakefield at his peak(I believe he had a couple seasons he got Cy Young votes) you would have laughed everyone out of the room.

 

 

The Mets are not getting anyones top prospect. They were probably trying to judge how hard the team laughed at them to see how far down the line they should start

 

Wakefield was NEVER as good as Dickey was last yr. As a matter of fact, Lester has never been as good as Dickey was last yr. Dickey had an amazing yr last yr, stop considering him akin to Wake. He throws harder and his knuckler is better.

[a700hitter]

Every once in a while my posts do.

 

I do think the Sox move Salty for Floyd, too. Both have 1 year left on their deals, Floyd making 9.5mm and Salty around 4.5mm.

 

I don't think Floyd turns this team around to a contender, but I think he's a nice step forward.

Your posts almost always make sense. The only faulty ones are the ones where you tell me that I am wrong. jk, you have persuaded me to your point of view many times.

[jacksonianmarch]

Dickey 2012- 233.2IP 192H 71ER 230K 54BB 2.73ERA 1.05WHIP 4.3K/BB 8.9K/9IP. Those numbers are insane

[a700hitter]

I said practically the same thing to you a couple days ago and you didn't want to hear it The Napoli signing def has brought some higher spirits to talksox

SFF expresses himself much better. Work on your communication skills.

[bubbakeg52]

I've been living out here in CA for about 11 years and I'm so sick of this message board paying $60 a game to be the next GM of the Red Sox. These baristas have more of fight then you guys when you get your coffee spilled.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Wakefield was NEVER as good as Dickey was last yr. As a matter of fact, Lester has never been as good as Dickey was last yr. Dickey had an amazing yr last yr, stop considering him akin to Wake. He throws harder and his knuckler is better.

 

He's 38.

 

He's got a career 3.98 ERA

 

He's got a career 4.23 FIP.

 

He was pitching at Citi Park. That field is enormous.

 

It's laughable that they asked for Bogaerts OR Bradley.

[BSN07]

Wakefield was NEVER as good as Dickey was last yr. As a matter of fact, Lester has never been as good as Dickey was last yr. Dickey had an amazing yr last yr, stop considering him akin to Wake. He throws harder and his knuckler is better.

 

But he's still a Knuckleballer, a gimmick pitch. I respect Dickey and his skills.And I love the Knuckleball. Doesn't mean I would want him or want to give up anything of not for him. I don't see many GM's willing to either. Report yesterday was the Mets had been overly underwhelmed by the offers for Dickey. Fact of the Matter is Dickey and his deal are more valuable to the Mets then he is to any other organization.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Dickey 2012- 233.2IP 192H 71ER 230K 54BB 2.73ERA 1.05WHIP 4.3K/BB 8.9K/9IP. Those numbers are insane

 

He did it 1 year.

 

And he's 38 years old.

 

Why the hell would the Sox give a future MLB regular that is under club control for 6 years up for a guy who won't even be in the league in 4 years??

[bubbakeg52]

Bradley Jr is going to be the CF next year.

[bubbakeg52]

I don't know why your smiling about Swisher siging for 4 years.