Enter: Will Middlebrooks

[a700hitter]

Since his time in Winter Ball has made Gonzo into an adequate right fielder, why not keep him there, play Youk at 1B and keep Middlebrooks with the big club?

[FredLynn]

Since his time in Winter Ball has made Gonzo into an adequate right fielder' date=' why not keep him there, play Youk at 1B and keep Middlebrooks with the big club?[/quote']

 

Because he would have the range of one of those turtles on the TV commercials.

[SoxSport]

Since his time in Winter Ball has made Gonzo into an adequate right fielder' date=' why not keep him there, play Youk at 1B and keep Middlebrooks with the big club?[/quote']

 

Sounds like the most sensible thing to do--at least in parks with friendly right fields.

But don't count on the Red Sox management to do the most sensible thing. There are often other factors that get in the way.

[a700hitter]

Because he would have the range of one of those turtles on the TV commercials.

He could handle RF at Yankee stadium or Baltimore.

[seabeachfred]

Youk for Blanton' date=' sign Oswalt, put Bard back in the bullpen, done.[/quote']

 

Dumb idea Gringo---the front office boobs would never go for it because it makes too much sense. Come out with something really stupid and you will see Cheerries pick up on it right away.:harhar::harhar::harhar::harhar::harhar:

[BornToRun]

I don't like Blanton too much.

[a700hitter]

I don't like Blanton too much.

I don't think you can get much more for Youk at this point until he re establishes himself.

[BornToRun]

I don't think you can get much more for Youk at this point until he re establishes himself.

 

I think I would rather hold onto him than take Blanton.

[a700hitter]

I think I would rather hold onto him than take Blanton.

I won't give you any argument on that.

[mvp 78]

I think I would rather hold onto him than take Blanton.

 

Yeah, don't we already have 4-5 type SP's.

 

Blanton wouldn't provide anything the Sox don't already have.

[a700hitter]

Yeah, don't we already have 4-5 type SP's.

 

Blanton wouldn't provide anything the Sox don't already have.

And the instant we would swap Youks for Blanton the Phillies would sign Oswalt. I'd much. Rather sign Oswalt and keep Youk than trade for Blanton.

[redsoxbeatz]

Youk should be worth more than Blanton. Maybe he figures himself out bats .300...

[SoxSport]

Blanton is pitching over his head right now. Stay away. Youkilis needs to get back to form before they deal him. It doesn't look like he can force Middlebrooks out the lineup--but it's the Red Sox.

[Spitball]

Since his time in Winter Ball has made Gonzo into an adequate right fielder' date=' why not keep him there, play Youk at 1B and keep Middlebrooks with the big club?[/quote']

 

I was coming on this thread to suggest Youkilis to Cincinnati for Chris Heisey but really like this idea. Gonzalez may not have range but could cover right. The Sox' offense covers his short comings.

[User Name]

Joe Blanton? Ewwwww.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Joe Blanton? Ewwwww.

 

+1.

 

I'd rather DFA Youk than trade for Blanton. That would be negative value.

[Dojji]

Bruce Chen? He's pretty much revitalized his career down in KC, he looks like a decent (if fragile) #3-4 starter now. Their phenom #1 is struggling and Youks is versatile enough to make himself useful.

[User Name]

Bruce Chen? He's pretty much revitalized his career down in KC' date=' he looks like a decent (if fragile) #3-4 starter now. Their phenom #1 is struggling and Youks is versatile enough to make himself useful.[/quote']

 

You mean Hosmer right? Because Moustakas is tearing the cover off the ball.

[a700hitter]

Bruce Chen? He's pretty much revitalized his career down in KC' date=' he looks like a decent (if fragile) #3-4 starter now. Their phenom #1 is struggling and Youks is versatile enough to make himself useful.[/quote']

 

:thumbdown

[Dojji]

You mean Hosmer right? Because Moustakas is tearing the cover off the ball.

 

Yeah, slight typo, I meant their phenom 1B. He's probably coming out of it, but if their rotation comes together, that team could be competitive in a weak division, so I could see them deciding to buy if Paulino and Duffy continue strong.

[Dojji]

Oh and here's a dark horse idea -- trade Youk to the Tigers. Sure they have a 1B and a 3B but they're both worse than Youkilis defensively and I don't think they have a set DH right now with the injury to V-Mart. So Youkilis affords them a small but significant upgrade, and they have a glut of young starters so we might be able to snag one.

 

With the emergence of Smyly you could get Scherzer, and he's talented though the numbers don't show it this year. Better than Buchholz anyway.

[User Name]

I highly doubt the Tigers would sell low on Scherzer. As evidenced by Sunday's outing, when he's on, he's Verlander on.

[Dojji]

Maybe. I'm only throwing crap against the wall when I talk about getting a pitcher like Scherzer, but Youk isn't chopped liver as a clever and versatile hitter who brings a gold glove to the table, which is something the Tiggers are DESPERATELY short on, so maybe I'm not being that ambitious after all.

[seabeachfred]

Maybe. I'm only throwing crap against the wall when I talk about getting a pitcher like Scherzer' date=' but Youk isn't chopped liver as a clever and versatile hitter who brings a gold glove to the table, which is something the Tiggers are DESPERATELY short on, so maybe I'm not being that ambitious after all.[/quote']

 

Keeping throwing that stuff against the wall Dojji because it's more than that moron GM of ours has done. I suggested Blanton and it was torn down....fine!!! But r ight now I would take him over Buchholz and Barf in an instant. Neither one of those is pitching worth s***, but if others have better suggestions have at it. The point I think we all agree on is that we need a good starter and who the hell knows when Cook is coming back, and, please, don't you or anyone else talk up Matsu. We went to that dance with him the past three seasons and the results were getting a tooth pulled. Of course, if Youkilis goes on a tear and stays in one piece we could much more for him or we could keep him, but anybody want to bet the house or even the garage that he won't turn up lame and go on the DL again? That's the risk with him the past couple of years. Maybe this time we'll be pleasantly surprised.

[User Name]

Keeping throwing that stuff against the wall Dojji because it's more than that moron GM of ours has done. I suggested Blanton and it was torn down....fine!!! But r ight now I would take him over Buchholz and Barf in an instant. Neither one of those is pitching worth s***' date=' but if others have better suggestions have at it. The point I think we all agree on is that we need a good starter and who the hell knows when Cook is coming back, and, please, don't you or anyone else talk up Matsu. We went to that dance with him the past three seasons and the results were getting a tooth pulled. Of course, if Youkilis goes on a tear and stays in one piece we could much more for him or we could keep him, but anybody want to bet the house or even the garage that he won't turn up lame and go on the DL again? That's the risk with him the past couple of years. Maybe this time we'll be pleasantly surprised.[/quote']

 

Weren't you just tooting your own horn a couple posts ago about how you're such a forward thinker and the team would never play Gonzo in RF, Youk at 1B and WMB at 3B?

 

You really undervalue the knowledge of this team's GM and FO and, no offense, overvalue your own. Food for thought.

[jacksonianmarch]

Maybe. I'm only throwing crap against the wall when I talk about getting a pitcher like Scherzer' date=' but Youk isn't chopped liver as a clever and versatile hitter who brings a gold glove to the table, which is something the Tiggers are DESPERATELY short on, so maybe I'm not being that ambitious after all.[/quote']

 

Nobody is taking on Youkilis at $13 mil or even a prorated portion of that AND give up a big league impact player. If you deal Youk, you are doing so either as a salary dump or as a Youk for prospect deal

[Spitball]

Nobody is taking on Youkilis at $13 mil or even a prorated portion of that AND give up a big league impact player. If you deal Youk' date=' you are doing so either as a salary dump or as a Youk for prospect deal[/quote']

 

I agree. In fact, his salary and recent injury history will make him hard to move.

 

I can see only Cincinnati as an immediate destination for him. Scott Rolen is likely through, and they are protecting Votto with second baseman Brandon Phillips. Votto leads the NL in walks because no one wants to pitch to him, and Phillips (despite two homers tonight for a total of four) is not a real power threat. They need a third baseman and a right handed number four hitter (because Dusty Baker insists on seperating lefties Votto and Bruce).

 

Besides, Cincinnati is Youk's hometown.

[seabeachfred]

Weren't you just tooting your own horn a couple posts ago about how you're such a forward thinker and the team would never play Gonzo in RF, Youk at 1B and WMB at 3B?

 

You really undervalue the knowledge of this team's GM and FO and, no offense, overvalue your own. Food for thought.

 

Speaking of food for thought UN, you have this talent for taking corn and potatoes and suddenly changing it to tomatoes and spinach. You never addressed by comments about the pitching angle but came out of left field about a post that I penned a ways back and amplified what others were saying as well. Just keep in mind that when I went on my one month self imposed sabbatical you were up front and clear that if things didn't turn around you would be as loud as anyone in taking the front office to task. At last glance we haven't gotten above 500, are still in the basement and you're still singing the praises of our inept front office. You are showing your true colors my friend and still hewing the party line, but you are right about one thing.....I have little use for those running the team and even less for the GM who I'm convinced is in over his head.

 

Get the stars out of your eyes User and take a swig of reality. Cherington's ineptness and piss poor reading of our pitching in the off season is the reason why we are sniffing the butts of four other teams in our division.

[jacksonianmarch]

Bruce Chen? He's pretty much revitalized his career down in KC' date=' he looks like a decent (if fragile) #3-4 starter now. Their phenom #1 is struggling and Youks is versatile enough to make himself useful.[/quote']

 

This is completely and totally stupid again.

 

Dojji, anyone wanting Youkilis would be in a win now mode and would be expected to be a contender. The Royals are the youngest team in baseball, and how do they get better by demoting their starting 1b, who is 22 yrs old and was good last yr, for a fragile 33 yr old with $13 mil coming to him? This is stupid.

 

I could see the sox dealing Youkilis to Arizona, a team that was in it last yr and needs to make a move. You arent getting Skaggs or Bauer, but you might be able to get a guy like Patrick Corbin, a young lefty who is on the outside looking in for a team stacked with pitching talent. The sox would have to eat most of the salary, but it would actually be a deal they could do

[User Name]

Speaking of food for thought UN, you have this talent for taking corn and potatoes and suddenly changing it to tomatoes and spinach. You never addressed by comments about the pitching angle but came out of left field about a post that I penned a ways back and amplified what others were saying as well. Just keep in mind that when I went on my one month self imposed sabbatical you were up front and clear that if things didn't turn around you would be as loud as anyone in taking the front office to task. At last glance we haven't gotten above 500, are still in the basement and you're still singing the praises of our inept front office. You are showing your true colors my friend and still hewing the party line, but you are right about one thing.....I have little use for those running the team and even less for the GM who I'm convinced is in over his head.

 

Get the stars out of your eyes User and take a swig of reality. Cherington's ineptness and piss poor reading of our pitching in the off season is the reason why we are sniffing the butts of four other teams in our division.

 

Hey, i know the reality of the pitching woes of this team. I just don't pretend to know more about the business of baseball than those who manage teams for a living.

 

The reason i'm not bitching and moaning is because there's actually a lot of room for internal improvement on this team. The bullpen has been lights-out for more than a month (our supposed weak link) while the team's two best pitchers still haven't hit their stride. And after all, the division, held by the sure-to-regress Orioles, is still up for grabs.

 

Being a "realist" is looking at things from a "realistic" angle, not whining incessantly.