Crawford has setback

[SoxFanForsyth]

Do not be surprised if tomo the issue is his knee or finger or whatever.... Jeez!

 

Oh come on man. Crawford played through a bummed wrist for 3 consecutive years. He rarely goes down with an injury, and always busts it harder than anyone to get back as soon as he can. That's not a fair comment on Crawford.

[iortiz]

Oh come on man. Crawford played through a bummed wrist for 3 consecutive years. He rarely goes down with an injury' date=' and always busts it harder than anyone to get back as soon as he can. That's not a fair comment on Crawford.[/quote']

 

Ok, fair enough.

 

Let's only hope he returns 100% healthy and he better bounce back which is more important.

[a700hitter]

Or just treat a player you're paying 100M+ like garbage and rush him back. Back in the day' date=' losing your LF was aheadache, now it f's up the entire operation as there is too much money tied up with CC.[/quote']As I said in another post, the Red Sox have more of an interest in keeping Crawford healthy and on the field than Crawford does. They are on the hook for $142 million whether or not he plays. Crawford's money is guaranteed if his arm falls off. Crawford is a hard worker by today's standards, but still a pampered princess by the standards of players that I grew up watching.

[jung]

but still a pampered princess by the standards of players that I grew up watching.

 

Staggering the difference between pro athletes in all sports when I was growing up (59 now) and guys today. However that probably was not always the best thing. When you see how long it takes for guys to recover from concussion, now that the medical community knows what to look for, God only knows how much additional damage those guys did to themselves. Really the same is true at all levels. I know there were football games I continued to play in when I was just plane gonzo.

 

Hard to even understand how the pros continued to play at such a high level under the circumstances.

[FredLynn]

I don't like the way this is progressing. Usually you don't need to seek a second opinion if your "minor injury" is improving. Not that the Red Sox have any obligation to tell us the full story, but I smell a rat. It would not surprise me to see Crawford need elbow surgery and MAYBE make it back by August.

[a700hitter]

I don't like the way this is progressing. Usually you don't need to seek a second opinion if your "minor injury" is improving. Not that the Red Sox have any obligation to tell us the full story' date=' but I smell a rat. It would not surprise me to see Crawford need elbow surgery and MAYBE make it back by August.[/quote']That would be a terrible blow to the team.

[mvp 78]

I don't like the way this is progressing. Usually you don't need to seek a second opinion if your "minor injury" is improving. Not that the Red Sox have any obligation to tell us the full story' date=' but I smell a rat. It would not surprise me to see Crawford need elbow surgery and MAYBE make it back by August.[/quote']

 

Sounds like Beckett thumb hysteria to me.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I don't like the way this is progressing. Usually you don't need to seek a second opinion if your "minor injury" is improving. Not that the Red Sox have any obligation to tell us the full story' date=' but I smell a rat. It would not surprise me to see Crawford need elbow surgery and MAYBE make it back by August.[/quote']

 

A rat?? You think Crawford, of all people, is the rat?? Come on man. He had the absolute least amount of reason to be pissed off. I could see Scutaro over Crawford, and I couldn't see Scutaro either.

 

The rat was almost certainly Youkilis IMO, but regardless, that's not the issue here.

 

And as far as Crawford goes, sure they don't have to tell you if it's serious, but they wouldn't go out of their way multiple times to say that it's just for Crawford to confirm that there's no additional damage, and that it's nothing major or serious. So the fact that they did come out and voluntarily say that it's nothing major, that's where you believe them and realize it's just a small issue, and another Beckett Thumb issue.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Sounds like Beckett thumb hysteria to me.

 

+ Infinity. That's exactly what it is. I've been saying this the whole time. Overreaction to a small issue.

 

If a player is experiencing an abnormal pain (i.e. Crawford's elbow), and they go to 1 doctor who says "Give it some rest and it'll be fine", you give it rest, then go back for another check up and it's still hurting and the doc says "Still the same thing, just give it rest and you'll be fine", any normal person is going to say "Ehh, I think I'd feel more comfortable if I heard this from someone else as well just to make sure this guy isn't missing something major and I won't do any damage by playing through it".

[kapsis21]

+ Infinity. That's exactly what it is. I've been saying this the whole time. Overreaction to a small issue.

 

If a player is experiencing an abnormal pain (i.e. Crawford's elbow), and they go to 1 doctor who says "Give it some rest and it'll be fine", you give it rest, then go back for another check up and it's still hurting and the doc says "Still the same thing, just give it rest and you'll be fine", any normal person is going to say "Ehh, I think I'd feel more comfortable if I heard this from someone else as well just to make sure this guy isn't missing something major and I won't do any damage by playing through it".

 

the medical staff is a f***ing joke.. ever since Ells injurry or maybe even before that.. seriously.

[iortiz]

Valentine on possible surgery for CC: "I havent heard any reason for surgical procedure being necessary. Hope not.''

The word surgery almost make me puke.

[mvp 78]

The word surgery almost make me puke.

 

Hyperbole and guesswork shouldn't upset your stomach.

[RedSoxNC84]

Hyperbole and guesswork shouldn't upset your stomach.

 

Maybe he's allergic.

[FredLynn]

A rat?? You think Crawford, of all people, is the rat?? Come on man. He had the absolute least amount of reason to be pissed off. I could see Scutaro over Crawford, and I couldn't see Scutaro either.

 

The rat was almost certainly Youkilis IMO, but regardless, that's not the issue here.

 

And as far as Crawford goes, sure they don't have to tell you if it's serious, but they wouldn't go out of their way multiple times to say that it's just for Crawford to confirm that there's no additional damage, and that it's nothing major or serious. So the fact that they did come out and voluntarily say that it's nothing major, that's where you believe them and realize it's just a small issue, and another Beckett Thumb issue.

 

No I don't think Crawford is the "rat". If he's hurt, he's hurt; thats not his fault. You misunderstood me. If there is a "rat" to be smelled, its the surreptitious manner in which the Sox are handling this. Minor injuries get better and don't need a second opinion, generally. I would not expect the Sox to announce the Crawford has a significant injury until its confirmed by a specialist. I do not trust this medical staff one bit, not anymore. Count me as hoping that there really is nothing seriously wrong with Crawford.

[Station 13]

Buster Olney said Crawford likely done for this year or could be out most of season (september?)

 

Whoodeedoopoopoo

 

2 year of utter s***, prime years left in Crawford? 1-2? What a disaster of a contract.

[iortiz]

Buster Olney said Crawford likely done for this year or could be out most of season (september?)

 

Whoodeedoopoopoo

 

2 year of utter s***, prime years left in Crawford? 1-2? What a disaster of a contract.

 

Speechless.

[iortiz]

ELBOW WAS BOTHERING CRAWFORD IN FEBRUARY

By: Rob Bradford

 

Speaking on the pregame show on the WEEI Radio Network Wednesday night, Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine said that Carl Crawford's left elbow may have been bothering him earlier than first reported. (To listen to the interview, click here.)

 

"Today I heard from the training staff that he said he had a little feeling when he got to spring training," Valentine said. "I never heard about that. I don't know if the staff really did either. I don't know if this is a major situation, but, again, I'm not close to the situation."

 

Crawford is scheduled to visit Dr. James Andrews to receive a second opinion on his ailing elbow, which Valentine said acted up on the outfielder when throwing a ball during batting practice following five days of inactivity.

 

"The only thing I heard is he hadn't been throwing in a couple days, then he was shagging and he picked up a ball and he kind of lobbed it in. He still felt something. That's what raised concern," the manager explained. "Sometimes isn't that you haven't thrown in a few days and you didn't warm up and you weren't expecting to throw and you throw.

 

"It's not like he's gone out and tried to throw and said I can't throw. And I bet if this was the seventh game of the World Series and he had to advance it in, he could advance it forward. And that's just a bet."

 

[iortiz]

Call me pessimist but all this elbow thing just doesn't smell well.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Buster Olney said Crawford likely done for this year or could be out most of season (september?)

 

Whoodeedoopoopoo

 

2 year of utter s***, prime years left in Crawford? 1-2? What a disaster of a contract.

 

Did he say that in an article?

 

The only thing I saw him say was that Crawford will miss significant time via twitter.

 

But what is the definition of "significant"? To me, if he's back on June 1, that is missing 33% of the season and is definitely significant.

[ibot2much]

Buster Olney said Crawford likely done for this year or could be out most of season (september?)

 

Whoodeedoopoopoo

 

2 year of utter s***, prime years left in Crawford? 1-2? What a disaster of a contract.

 

They were rolling the Olney information across the bottom of ESPN2 last night during the game last night. He seems to be the only one talking this way.. Hopefully he is wrong.

[a700hitter]

Buster Olney said Crawford likely done for this year or could be out most of season (september?)

 

Whoodeedoopoopoo

 

2 year of utter s***, prime years left in Crawford? 1-2? What a disaster of a contract.

Has this rumor been substantiated by any news outlet?

[SoxFanForsyth]

Call me pessimist but all this elbow thing just doesn't smell well.

 

I honestly think this is all a massive, massive overreaction. This smells so much of Beckett's thumb it's insane.

 

The fact that V said that Crawford would play in a big game makes me think this is nothing but precautionary just to make sure Crawford is fine before he starts a throwing program.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Has this rumor been substantiated by any news outlet?

 

Olney is the only person I've heard say anything about significant time missed.

 

And the fact that guys like Pete Abe, Sean McAdam, Tomase, Shaughnessy, Cafardo, Mazz, et all are not mentioning anything related to this makes me think that Olney is jumping to a conclusion based on the appointment w Dr. Andrews rather than having any substantiating evidence of a serious injury.

[iortiz]

I honestly think this is all a massive, massive overreaction. This smells so much of Beckett's thumb it's insane.

 

The fact that V said that Crawford would play in a big game makes me think this is nothing but precautionary just to make sure Crawford is fine before he starts a throwing program.

 

Hopefully everything is right. We'll see.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Buster Olney said Crawford likely done for this year or could be out most of season (september?)

 

Whoodeedoopoopoo

 

2 year of utter s***, prime years left in Crawford? 1-2? What a disaster of a contract.

I'm laughing at the people who wanted to sign this guy.

[Station 13]

Has this rumor been substantiated by any news outlet?

 

Only from Onley to this point via Twitter. But the Sox are not saying anything and that likely isn't good.

[Station 13]

Olney is the only person I've heard say anything about significant time missed.

 

And the fact that guys like Pete Abe, Sean McAdam, Tomase, Shaughnessy, Cafardo, Mazz, et all are not mentioning anything related to this makes me think that Olney is jumping to a conclusion based on the appointment w Dr. Andrews rather than having any substantiating evidence of a serious injury.

 

Crawford has a problem in his ULC, and those likely are same issues with pitchers, requires surgery or a long time on the DL.

[mvp 78]

Only from Onley to this point via Twitter. But the Sox are not saying anything and that likely isn't good.

 

Yes, because they are so open about all other injuries.

[a700hitter]

Crawford has a problem in his ULC' date=' and those likely are same issues with pitchers, requires surgery or a long time on the DL.[/quote']Plenty of OFers have played with damaged wings. They only need to make 1 or 2 high stress throws a game, if that. If it doesn't affect his swing, he should play even if the tendon pops. If he doesn't, he just has no intention of earning his money.

 

Jim Kaat popped the tendon in his elbow on the second to last day of the 1967 season and he pitched for many more years without having surgery. I am get sick of this princess and the pea. Get the F on the field and earn your money.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Crawford has a problem in his ULC' date=' and those likely are same issues with pitchers, requires surgery or a long time on the DL.[/quote']

 

I will tell you exactly what's going on right now:

 

4/10/2012: Crawford visits Boston to have elbow examined for soreness. MRI performed. No damage noted. Plan of action - Rest.

 

4/23/2012: Crawford still experiencing soreness. Revisits Boston to have elbow checked up. Diagnosis the same. More rest, nothing major. No damage noted.

 

4/24/2012: Due to continuation of discomfort in elbow beyond expectation, Crawford desires second opinion to confirm no damage or serious injury prior to starting throwing regimen.

 

I mean, BobbyV said yesterday that Crawford would be playing if it was a big game.