2011 - 2012 Offseason Thread

[Meh]

What do you guys think about adding Ian Stewart? I saw they want a Double-A or Triple-A starter for him. Stoneburner is getting kind of lost in the system, so maybe swamp him out for a roll of the dice with Stewart? Stewart could replace Eric Chavez on the bench

[jacksonianmarch]

Stewart? Nah, he couldnt cut it in Coors this past yr. He has talent, but he is a reclamation project that we cannot offer enough PT to reclaim. Nunez will be our utility guy full time this yr with Brandon Laird being the first callup

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The Yankees turned down a request by C.J. Wilson's agent for a visit to Yankee Stadium, reports ESPN New York's Andrew Marchand. That's not a good sign for Wilson's chances of signing with the Bombers, which Marchand believes are "less than five percent."

[jacksonianmarch]

Yep, sounds like the Yankees are out on Wilson. They are most definitely in on Soler, Cespedes, and Darvish. Wilson is good, but he's not worth $20 mil per yr over 6 yrs

[Meh]

They are most definitely in on Soler' date=' Cespedes, and Darvish. Wilson is good, but he's not worth $20 mil per yr over 6 yrs[/quote']

 

Which they should be. Avoiding Wilson and going for Darvish would be the way to go and looking around the trade market to see if there are any deals to be made that make sense. Cashman seems to be in full control and you got to like what he's doing... not making a move to make one. Although I wouldn't mind him making a minor deal and re-signing Jones.

[a700hitter]

Yep' date=' sounds like the Yankees are out on Wilson. They are most definitely in on Soler, Cespedes, and Darvish. Wilson is good, but he's not worth $20 mil per yr over 6 yrs[/quote']A few years ago they said they were out on Texeira. Maybe the Yanks are just not letting themselves be used early in the process to help Wilson pump up his value. They are very shrewd like that. They do it the right way. They swoop in and close things. They don't let themselves be used.

[Elktonnick]

A few years ago they said they were out on Texeira. Maybe the Yanks are just not letting themselves be used early in the process to help Wilson pump up his value. They are very shrewd like that. They do it the right way. They swoop in and close things. They don't let themselves be used.

 

The Yankees were smart to cut out early on Wilson. The concern many have is that Wilson may be older than his years. I think he is another Lackey and only interesting becuase this is a weak year for FA starters.

[seabeachfred]

A few years ago they said they were out on Texeira. Maybe the Yanks are just not letting themselves be used early in the process to help Wilson pump up his value. They are very shrewd like that. They do it the right way. They swoop in and close things. They don't let themselves be used.

 

Sometimes I have to roll my eyes at the naivety of some of my Red Sox colleagues who listen to what the Yankees say and swallow it whole..NEVER BELIEVE A FU@@ING THING THE YANKEES SAY. They don't usually mean a word of it. Not just Teixeira but jog your memories to the fall of 2005. They weren't interested in Johnny Damon either, right? A great Christmas present we got when he signed with the pinstripers while we wound up with good field, miseable hitting Coco Crisp who stunk up Boston at the plate for three years. Until Wilson signs elsewhere the Yankees ARE VERY interested in him.

[Elktonnick]

Sometimes I have to roll my eyes at the naivety of some of my Red Sox colleagues who listen to what the Yankees say and swallow it whole..NEVER BELIEVE A FU@@ING THING THE YANKEES SAY. They don't usually mean a word of it. Not just Teixeira but jog your memories to the fall of 2005. They weren't interested in Johnny Damon either' date=' right? A great Christmas present we got when he signed with the pinstripers while we wound up with good field, miseable hitting Coco Crisp who stunk up Boston at the plate for three years. Until Wilson signs elsewhere the Yankees ARE VERY interested in him.[/quote']

 

Fred , they can have him

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Sometimes I have to roll my eyes at the naivety of some of my Red Sox colleagues who listen to what the Yankees say and swallow it whole..NEVER BELIEVE A FU@@ING THING THE YANKEES SAY. They don't usually mean a word of it. Not just Teixeira but jog your memories to the fall of 2005. They weren't interested in Johnny Damon either' date=' right? A great Christmas present we got when he signed with the pinstripers while we wound up with good field, miseable hitting Coco Crisp who stunk up Boston at the plate for three years. Until Wilson signs elsewhere the Yankees ARE VERY interested in him.[/quote']

 

Yeah! Just like that time they said they weren't interested in Holliday and didn't even contact his agent, or the time they weren't interested in Barry Zito and didn't bid on him, or the year they said they weren't interested in Torii Hunter and didn't bid on him either.

 

It all depends on the situation,

[Meh]

Yep' date=' sounds like the Yankees are out on Wilson. They are most definitely in on Soler, Cespedes, and Darvish. Wilson is good, but he's not worth $20 mil per yr over 6 yrs[/quote']

 

Whats your predictions on where Golson, Dickerson, Maxwell and Curtis are next year?

 

The way I'd have it is....

 

Maxwell as the main 4th or 5th OF.

Dickerson traded away for a C prospect

Curtis DFA

Golson stashed away in Triple-A.

[Meh]

Yankees won the rights to Nakajima for about $2 million. I love this move! Offer him $10 million for 4 years, 5th year option($500K buyout)

 

Shop Nunez is this market where UTL guys are getting overpaid.

[Divinity]

Yanks are shopping AJ, Cashman has been offering to pay $8 million of the $33 million remaining on the final two season of Burnett’s contract, according to the New York Post.

[a700hitter]

Yanks are shopping AJ' date=' Cashman has been offering to pay $8 million of the $33 million remaining on the final two season of Burnett’s contract, according to the New York Post.[/quote']Laughable.

[Divinity]

Laughable.

 

Yeah the Yankees will likely have to eat significantly more than $8 million if they are going to be able to trade Burnett. At two years and $25 million, Burnett is still not enticing.

[jacksonianmarch]

Burnett does have some value, and I think Cashman is going to try to go off his strong September and playoff start as a means to offload him. I think the interest in Kuroda is genuine and could be a good move, although NL West to AL East isnt always done well later in careers.

 

I like the Nakajima move as it gives us some flexibility, especially if ARod proves to be too old to man the hot corner daily and we move Jeter there for 2012 at some point. But this kid is going to be a crap shoot anyway, since a lot of these Japanese players turn out to be a ball of crap

[Meh]

Yankees are close to signing Adam Miller to a minor league deal. He'll be converted to a RP. A very nice low risk/high reward signing. Miller was once one of the best prospects in the game. He's had some trouble with his thumb tho.

[a700hitter]

I like the Nakajima move as it gives us some flexibility' date=' especially if ARod proves to be too old to man the hot corner daily and we move Jeter there for 2012 at some point. But this kid is going to be a crap shoot anyway, since a lot of these Japanese players turn out to be a ball of crap[/quote']I wouldn't count on this ^

 

An executive who knows Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine says he's very high on Japanese shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Sherman's source expects Nakajima to reject the Yankees' attempts to sign him, play in Japan for 2012, and sign with the Red Sox as a free agent.

[Meh]

I wouldn't count on this ^

 

We're looking into trading his rights actually. Also Boston in on the East coast too... this guy only wants to play on the west coast.

[Meh]

Yankees talking to Manny Corpas's agent. I'd love to add him with an minor league deal.

 

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/danks_for_the_starter_chicago_XHj0CwWH56GNnw7QXnzmzK?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

[jacksonianmarch]

So be it. We can sign him and trade him for some chips. I also like the Corpas move. If you have a sound bullpen then these recoup guys can come in, do some work and recoup some value. You just dont want to have to rely on a Manny Corpas.

 

Also, I am going on record right now. I think I did that same thing last yr and it didnt work out, mostly because Girardi didnt do what I said for him to do. If, and this is a big if, the Yankees play their cards right with ARod, we will see a rejuvenated slugger with a .900+OPS and 35+HR. If they trot him out there daily at 3b, we will see another year where he starts out white hot, gets hurt and ends up a shell of himself. If he plays 3b 70% of the games (113 games) and plays DH or sits the rest, then he will be a very, very good player in 2012. If he plays over 120 games as a 3b this yr, he will be s*** by October

[Meh]

So be it. We can sign him and trade him for some chips.

 

Looks like he might have to sign... his old team is close to signing Esteban German to play SS. So if he doesn't sign with us he might have to ride the bench back in Japan.

[jacksonianmarch]

Well, if he cannot beat out Esteban German, then I dont think I'd want him in a Yankee uniform, lol. Regardless, this guy will sign. I just have a feeling either he or Nunez will then be dealt for some pitching. Cashman is playing this really cool right now, but we know he's working as hard as he can to sure up the rotation. Our rotation has a lot of potential, but the gap between potential and current is pretty big and as of right now, we have no contingencies. With Burnett, Nova, Garcia and Hughes behind CC, we'll need a few contingencies

[jacksonianmarch]

BTW, I've been scouring some stats and noticed a target I want the Yanks to pursue. Time to go after Gavin Floyd. The guy has done nothing but fly under the radar since he got to Chicago. He's pitched 30 or more times a yr for 4 straight yrs, he's averaged 6+IP per start, and his peripherals were good this yr. He was right at 7K/9IP, his BB rate was at a career low and he had a ridiculously good WHIP of 1.16 (which is 7 points lower than our ace's, Sabathia). His ERA last yr was misleading and I think we might be able to get him without breaking up Montero, Banuelos or Betances. We'll see, but he's a guy I target

[Divinity]

From people I'm talking to within and without the Yankees organization, it doesn't appear either of the two mystery men in this year's free-agent crop, Japanese pitcher Yu Darvish and Cuban emigre outfielder Yoennis Cespedes, are likely to be Yankees in 2012. Incredible as it may seem, the Yankees payroll appears "capped'' at about $200 million, leaving GM Brian Cashman hamstrung this winter, if such a word can be used in the case of a team that is spending nearly a quarter-billion greenbucks on ballplayers already.

 

The problem seems to be the Yankees revenue-sharing bill, which is heftier than a CC Sabathia dinner tab.

 

"Where do you think the Marlins got all that money to spend?,'' a disgusted team source told ESPNNewYork.com.

 

Uh, from ticket sales from the final season at Pro Player Stadium?

 

""From revenue sharing,'' the person said.

 

Meaning, "from us.''

 

As a result, the Yankees appear disinclined to gamble a lot of money on a posting fee for Darvish or to get into a bidding war for Cespedes, both of whom are tantalizing prospects who are extremely difficult to accurately assess off the available information.

 

I'll be really disappointed if they don't make a move for Darvish, him and Sabathia could've been a nasty 1-2 punch

[Meh]

Considering the Yankees made a $35 million move just to make a move last year, I HIGHLY doubt they won't be major players for Darvish. I'm not saying they will win the posting but expect a fee over the 52 million dic-K got from the Sox. I think the Rangers might use some of that TV money and make a 76+ million bid tho and just shock baseball. The Yankees will then turn their heads to the two cubans and Danks.

[jacksonianmarch]

The White Sox asked for 2 of Montero, Banuelos or Betances for Danks. ROFL. The price better come down or we go to war with what we have. We could just wait and sign Danks as a FA after 2012

[Meh]

We could just wait and sign Danks as a FA after 2012

 

Eh, I'd rather have Hamels if thats what it comes to.

[jacksonianmarch]

That's what I mean. If they are going to bully us into a trade for 1 yr of a #2/3 pitcher by taking 2 of our 3 prime prospects, then they can sit and spin. Next yrs FA class looks awesome for pitching

 

Matt Cain

John Danks

Cole Hamels

Zach Greinke

Francisco Liriano

Shawn Marcum

Jake Peavy

Anibal Sanchez

[jacksonianmarch]

btw, I still think we get a deal done with the White Sox. I just dont think they understand the market. The DBacks just dealt Cahill and 6 yrs of team control to the DBacks and got one marquee prospect and a bunch of potential prospects in the deal. And that's for a guy who is younger than Danks, coming off a better season, and coming with more years of control. Once the White Sox remember that Danks has 1 yr left, that they are rebuilding, and that their best dance partner is the Yankees, then they will likely cave. I think we could theoretically get Danks without giving up Banuelos, Betances, or Montero. But we shall see. I think we could frame a deal around Austin Romine, give them the opportunity to move Flowers out to 1b and be set at catcher for awhile.