New York Yankees Gameday Thread

[jacksonianmarch]

The last time you said it, though, you were Imperial

[yankees228]

No way to know until the test results come back, but Dave Eiland seems confident that it's not a big deal.

[Chamomile]

There's something to be said about a player leaving it all out on the field in the last year of their career. But to be honest' date=' the chances of Petttite holding up over a full season at his age, throwing 110+ pitches his entire career aren't very good.[/quote']

[yankees228]

I don't know Chamomile, if you go back and read the posts during that game, it's pretty clear you said it after the fact lol.

[Chamomile]

I don't know Chamomile' date=' if you go back and read the posts during that game, it's pretty clear you said it after the fact lol.[/quote']

 

Yeah, I said it after his last start and he was taken out in the 5th inning today with elbow stiffness.

[yankees228]

Yeah' date=' I said it after his last start and he was taken out in the 5th inning today with elbow stiffness.[/quote']

 

I know, I was only giving you a hard time because of what you said to me about questions managerial moves after the fact.

[yankees228]

Regardless, we have no way to prove causation, and I think it's highly unlikely that one extra inning a couple weeks ago is the reason for a little bit of elbow stiffness.

[Chamomile]

Regardless' date=' we have no way to prove causation, and I think it's highly unlikely that one extra inning a couple weeks ago is the reason for a little bit of elbow stiffness.[/quote']

 

I wasn't just talking about one start. I said that a pitcher who's thrown 110+ pitches a start over their career probably isn't going to hold up leaving everything out on the field at age 38.

[yankees228]

I wasn't just talking about one start. I said that a pitcher who's thrown 110+ pitches a start over their career probably isn't going to hold up leaving everything out on the field at age 38.

 

He's had a history of elbow problems, dating all the way back to the very beginning of his career. Sometimes it's a major thing, but more often than not, as Pettitte has talked about, it's just normal pain that he needs to pitch through. I don't think it has anything to do with his age.

[Chamomile]

He's had a history of elbow problems' date=' dating all the way back to the very beginning of his career. Sometimes it's a major thing, but more often than not, as Pettitte has talked about, it's just normal pain that he needs to pitch through. I don't think it has anything to do with his age.[/quote']

 

It's not like he's getting more durable the closer he gets to 40. When I see a 38 year old pitcher with a history of elbow issues snapping off curveballs like he was 30 and going 100-110 pitches every time out, I see a red flag. He may not need to go on the DL, but if he's pitching through pain it's going to hurt his effectiveness.

[a700hitter]

It's nothing that an injection or two of HGH can't solve. After all, in Andy's church it's not cheating if you do it only to get back on the field.

[yankees228]

It's nothing that an injection or two of HGH can't solve. After all' date=' in Andy's church it's not cheating if you do it only to get back on the field.[/quote']

 

I came into this thread, more to see the HGH joke than anything else lol. Nicely done haha.

 

Anyway, looks like the Yankees received the best possible news.

 

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2010/05/05/andy-pettitte-injured/

[diony]

He's DTD. At worst, he'll miss his next start.

[yankees228]

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/yankeesblog/pitcher_something_has_to_happen_CHIHfEUMyYxEnOhCXhmWAK

 

You would think A-Rod did something more than walk on a mound. Some things never cease to amaze.

[Dipre]

Both Braden and A-Rod need to Shut The f*** Up and play baseball.

[26 to 6]

Seriously already...I was sick of this incident a week ago. We really gotta hear more about it?

[jacksonianmarch]

I hope ARod lines one off this dope's pitching arm

[yankees228]

Both Braden and A-Rod need to Shut The f*** Up and play baseball.

 

To the best of my knowledge, A-Rod hasn't spoken on the issue since the day of (or maybe the day after) the incident. It's Braden who won't let this die.

[Dipre]

To the best of my knowledge' date=' A-Rod hasn't spoken on the issue since the day of (or maybe the day after) the incident. It's Braden who won't let this die.[/quote']

 

Did he respond to Braden's initial stupidity? Yes he did. Might that have fueled Braden's desire to keep talking s***? Yes it did. Is A-Rod going to keep his mouth shut about it? He probably won't.

 

After reading A-Rod's response to Braden, do you think it's possible someone would jump to his defense? I did not, so you just surprised me there. A-Rod needs to learn from the captain of his team.

[26 to 6]

Did he respond to Braden's initial stupidity? Yes he did. Might that have fueled Braden's desire to keep talking s***? Yes it did. Is A-Rod going to keep his mouth shut about it? He probably won't.

 

After reading A-Rod's response to Braden, do you think it's possible someone would jump to his defense? I did not, so you just surprised me there. A-Rod needs to learn from the captain of his team.

Yeah but this happened weeks ago. Not that I'm defending A-Rod or what he said or did, although I don't completely think he was wrong. sure, out of courtesy he shouldn't have run across the mound, I know I never did when I played. But a lot of people I've talked to were never aware of that "unofficial rule," and being that A-Rod was just trying to get from point a to point b faster by cutting through the field, which in effect speeds up the game (something thats constantly being talked about nowadays), I don't think Braden's response was warranted. Either way, A-Rod responded that day; Braden spoke about it that day as well, and continues to talk about it. Granted, he was asked about it by a reporter, but this needs to die down already before anything happens. If it doesn't MLB and Bob Watson are going to have the umpires issue a warning to both teams prior to Braden's next start against the Yanks, which isn't fair to take away the inside of the plate.

 

Truthfully, idk why I just spent that much time and effort writing about it when I really don't care anymore. Like I said, I was tired of this situation weeks ago.

[yankees228]

Did he respond to Braden's initial stupidity? Yes he did. Might that have fueled Braden's desire to keep talking s***? Yes it did. Is A-Rod going to keep his mouth shut about it? He probably won't.

 

After reading A-Rod's response to Braden, do you think it's possible someone would jump to his defense? I did not, so you just surprised me there. A-Rod needs to learn from the captain of his team.

 

Reporters asked him about it the day of the incident. He responded by saying, in so many words, that he thought he did nothing wrong. Aside from a wise crack about Braden's lack of success (which was stupid, but hardly noteworthy), A-Rod did absolutely nothing wrong. He was very dismissive of the whole issue, which is how I hoped he would respond.

 

As for learning from Jeter, he did the very thing that you're denouncing - he came to A-Rod's defense.

[Dipre]

Reporters asked him about it the day of the incident. He responded by saying, in so many words, that he thought he did nothing wrong. Aside from a wise crack about Braden's lack of success (which was stupid, but hardly noteworthy), A-Rod did absolutely nothing wrong. He was very dismissive of the whole issue, which is how I hoped he would respond.

 

As for learning from Jeter, he did the very thing that you're denouncing - he came to A-Rod's defense.

 

I'm going to go ahead and ask if you read or heard what Jeter said? Big difference.

 

It's not that A-Rod shouldn't have said anything or defended himself, but did you read what he said? No wonder the other douchebag responded with that load of s***.

 

You say you didn't know it was a problem, but stress that the other player's actions denoted a lack of class/professionalism and STFU.

[yankees228]

I'm going to go ahead and ask if you read or heard what Jeter said? Big difference.

 

It's not that A-Rod shouldn't have said anything or defended himself, but did you read what he said? No wonder the other douchebag responded with that load of s***.

 

You say you didn't know it was a problem, but stress that the other player's actions denoted a lack of class/professionalism and STFU.

 

I agree, A-Rod said some things that he probably shouldn't have said, but all he did was respond that day. After that he dropped it (because it really is a non-issue), and it's only Braden that's keeping it alive.

 

As for what Jeter said, sure, it was said differently, but he still came to A-Rod's defense (something you claim people shouldn't do).

[Dipre]

I agree, A-Rod said some things that he probably shouldn't have said, but all he did was respond that day. After that he dropped it (because it really is a non-issue), and it's only Braden that's keeping it alive.

 

As for what Jeter said, sure, it was said differently, but he still came to A-Rod's defense (something you claim people shouldn't do).

 

Wait, what?

 

What i literally said was "A-Rod should learn from his captain" as in "Choose your words carefully". I never claimed that his teammates shouldn't defend him. When i said someone shouldn't jump to his defense, i meant on the forum, as denoted by the "You surprised me there", because unlike Jeter, we ain't his teammates. A lot of teammates over the years have defended douchebag actions from their teammates, that doesn't make it right, but if they're going to, the least they can do is do it like Jeter did.

[yankees228]

Wait, what?

 

What i literally said was "A-Rod should learn from his captain" as in "Choose your words carefully". I never claimed anything, and you're putting words in my mouth. When i said someone shouldn't jump to his defense, i meant on the forum, as denoted by the "You surprised me there", because unlike Jeter, we ain't his teammates. A lot of teammates over the years have defended douchebag actions from their teammates, that doesn't make it right, but if they're going to, the least they can do is do it like Jeter did.

 

Well, thanks for clarifying your stance. In my view, it's unclear in the post that is being referenced.

 

As for not defending someone on a forum, we discuss these player's actions ad nauseam, often taking sides. A-Rod said a couple dumb things during his post game interview following the incident, but other than that, I don't believe he was in the wrong.

[Dipre]

Well, thanks for clarifying your stance. In my view, it's unclear in the post that is being referenced.

 

As for not defending someone on a forum, we discuss these player's actions ad nauseam, often taking sides. A-Rod said a couple dumb things during his post game interview following the incident, but other than that, I don't believe he was in the wrong.

 

Yeah i edited it because i understood where you were coming from afterwards, the issue with it being poor wording on my part. We do often take sides, but when you do something stupid, you do something stupid. I'm pretty sure A's fans were all over Braden for what he said as well.

[yankees228]

Yeah i edited it because i understood where you were coming from afterwards' date=' the issue with it being poor wording on my part. We do often take sides, but when you do something stupid, you do something stupid. I'm pretty sure A's fans were all over Braden for what he said as well.[/quote']

 

My problem with Braden isn't really what he said at the time, although I thought he acted pretty ridiculous on the field, throwing stuff and needing to be restrained by his manager. It's more his unwillingness to drop it. Anyway, I hope A-Rod doesn't respond, and if he does, I'd be disappointed.

[Dipre]

My problem with Braden isn't really what he said at the time' date=' although I thought he acted pretty ridiculous on the field, throwing stuff and needing to be restrained by his manager. It's more his unwillingness to drop it. Anyway, I hope A-Rod doesn't respond, and if he does, I'd be disappointed.[/quote']

 

Braden's an idiot. "How we work up in the 209" lolwut?

 

I bet he's a pussy.

[yankees228]

Braden's an idiot. "How we work up in the 209" lolwut?

 

I bet he's a pussy.

 

Hahaha, he was talking about his hometown during the initial interview also.

[Dipre]

Hahaha' date=' he was talking about [b']his hometown[/b] during the initial interview also.

 

Who the f*** cares? He could be from the deepest ghetto in the US.

 

When someone uses "Well where i come from......." 99% of the time, he's a pussy.