Free Agent SS??

[S3ANTHAD0N]

how about trade for JD Drews brother Stephen Drew? as long as the price isn't to high

[BSN07]

how about trade for JD Drews brother Stephen Drew? as long as the price isn't to high

 

It's been brought up before. Not sure how easy it would be to pull off.

 

IMO the Sox are looking for a 1-2 year stop gap and hoping by that time Iglesias is ready to take over. If not then they will look elsewhere. Hanley will be in the big $ years of his contract. He could be more available in 1-2 seasons then he is now.

 

BTW I wouldn't expect to see Lowrie in the Majors until at least the 2nd half of next season. The Sox are going to put him in AAA and make him prove he's healthy enough to play everyday. So I don't see him platooning at with whoever the Sox bring in. My bet is they bring back Agon, and add Vizquel to the bench.

[callandor1000]

What's up with our SS situation?

I know Gonzo filled nice defensive gap that we had for last half of the season, but $6MM just for the defense?? If we're willing to pick up that option, can we try to sign Jack Wilson about similar amount of money we're going to pay Gonzo? JWil is well known for his glove, and his BA will eventually go up a bit with better line-up in Boston. What do you guys think??

 

Personally, I'm confused as to why this position has been an issue for us. I mean, we dropped Nomaaahhhh, got Cabrera who was excellent, then let him go after half a season which I personally think was the dumbest thing they could have done, wasted time and money on Renterria, had a good go with Gonzo, should have kept him, then went to... Lugo was the biggest disaster ever and now we're back to Gonzo with Lowrie in the mix. We've been totally spastic at this position and we've had our hands on solid guys. Lets stick with Gonzo a few years. Get stability at a crucial position.

[Red Foreman]

I'd rather have had Cabrera over Lugo but he's been blehh since his time in Boston. Not much lost there.

[TheMino007]

We are in fact looking for a stop gap solution at SS until Iglesias is ready, and Hanley won't be that solution. From what I've heard and read he is projected to be a CF in a couple of years. You trade for him next year, have him play SS for a year or two until Iglesias is ready, then move him into CF and shifts Ellsbury to LF if Bay leaves of Holliday isn't signed, or put him in RF when Drew's abyss of a contract expires

[Dojji]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but given the paucity of decent talent in the FA SS market, if we look for a SS, Nick Green is actually one or the top 3 or 4 to look at. And while that does say more about the talent pool at SS than it actually says about Green, it should mean that he gets a look.

 

He was an above average defender last year, and he isn't hopelessly inept with the stick. At least he hits above the Mendoza line. And while Green is definitely prone to some pretty blunderful plays at times, UZR takes that into consideration and still gives him a +8.9 rating or so over a half-year sample at short last season. That's not bad at all.

 

I'm not sure that any of Cabrera, Scutaro and Tejeda will combine those three attributes next year. According to UZR/150, both Cabrera and Tejeda were downright bad defensively while Scutaro is merely average, and all three are due for a major offensive regression. Meanwhile Green's 32 years old, and probably the best candidate of the 4 to repeat or improve on his previous season's numbers.

 

Just a bit of food for thought. I know there's some emotions behind the concept of bringing it back that make the prospect less than palatable, but with so few really decent FA options, you have to at least contemplate Green.

[Keeper]

The fact that Nick Green is even being mentioned is depressing.

[Dojji]

I can sympathize, but if you only look at the numbers, he's one of the least bad options.

[Dipre]

We are in fact looking for a stop gap solution at SS until Iglesias is ready' date=' and Hanley won't be that solution. From what I've heard and read he is projected to be a CF in a couple of years. You trade for him next year, have him play SS for a year or two until Iglesias is ready, then move him into CF and shifts Ellsbury to LF if Bay leaves of Holliday isn't signed, or put him in RF when [b']Drew's abyss of a contract expires[/b]

 

That is a completely laughable statement and it made my afternoon.

[TheMino007]

once your done at the JD Drew jack-off session, you will understand what the rest of New England has been saying since the deal was signed

[Dojji]

.. that besides being one of our biggest salaries, Drew is also one of our best players?

[TheMino007]

beside from his .390 OBP, every other facet of his game doesn't warrant him making 14 million dollars. Great defense, nothing spectacular, pretty good arm, but don't try to B.S. the fact that he hasn't lived up to the contract that he signed. I was some-what of a Drew defender for years b/c the guy would always turn it on in the playoffs and get several big hits, but as a whole his three years here have been pedestrian at best. Guy isn't a bad player, but he isn't worth 14 million dollars.

[Cocos Disciples]

once your done at the JD Drew jack-off session' date=' you will understand what the rest of New England has been saying since the deal was signed[/quote']

 

Yeah, the rest of New England does hate JD Drew. But who gives a s***, he's one of the team's best players.

[Dojji]

beside from his .390 OBP' date=' every other facet of his game doesn't warrant him making 14 million dollars.[/quote']

 

The .390 OBP counts. You can't set it aside.

 

Besides, if you have one skill that dominates, OBP is one of the better ones. There is literally nothing you can do to increase your OBP that is not directly beneficial to your team.

 

JD Drew was third on the team in OPS behind two cost-controlled players who have a very good chance to make more than $14M when they hit free agency.

 

Legit middle of the order bat AND elite OBP skills AND solid defense AND no particularly major health issues this year, and you think this guy doesn't earn his $14M? I guarantee you he'd get more than that on the open market right now.

[Dipre]

beside from his .390 OBP' date=' every other facet of his game doesn't warrant him making 14 million dollars. Great defense, nothing spectacular, pretty good arm, but don't try to B.S. the fact that he hasn't lived up to the contract that he signed. I was some-what of a Drew defender for years b/c the guy would always turn it on in the playoffs and get several big hits, but as a whole his three years here have been pedestrian at best. Guy isn't a bad player, but he isn't worth 14 million dollars.[/quote']

 

******** is not knowing he's not only one of our team's best players, but one of the best outfielders in the game today.

 

Do you actually watch the game and check the stats, or are you too busy with the JD Drew hate circle-jerk sessions with your friends?

[yankees228]

beside from his .390 OBP' date=' every other facet of his game doesn't warrant him making 14 million dollars. Great defense, nothing spectacular, pretty good arm, but don't try to B.S. the fact that he hasn't lived up to the contract that he signed. I was some-what of a Drew defender for years b/c the guy would always turn it on in the playoffs and get several big hits, but as a whole his three years here have been pedestrian at best. Guy isn't a bad player, but he isn't worth 14 million dollars.[/quote']

 

I'm guessing this will mean absolutely nothing to you, but based on his WAR, fangraphs estimates his worth at...

 

2007: 5.5 million

2008: 18.6 million

2009: 21.1 million

 

He wasn't worth nearly 14 million dollars in 2007, but he has really made up for it the past two years.

[Cocos Disciples]

Since this Drew argument comes up about once a month, I find it's better to let it go. If you want to say he's been a disappointment, that's your call, and I couldn't disagree with you more.

[yankees228]

Since this Drew argument comes up about once a month' date=' I find it's better to let it go. If you want to say he's been a disappointment, that's your call, and I couldn't disagree with you more.[/quote']

 

I think the Yankees equivalent of the Drew argument is the Joba argument. It gets old very quickly.

[Dipre]

The .390 OBP counts. You can't set it aside.

 

JD Drew was third on the team in OPS behind two cost-controlled players who have a very good chance to make more than $14M when they hit free agency.

 

Legit middle of the order bat AND elite OBP skills AND solid defense AND no particularly major health issues this year, and you think this guy doesn't earn his $14M? I guarantee you he'd get more than that on the open market right now.

 

Not only that, but it's not "Just" the OBP.

 

He was 4th in SLG and 2nd in OBP among OF's with enough AB's to qualify for the batting title, but hey, it's not that he's really f***ing good like stats and common sense would indicate, we're just jerkin' off over Drew.

[TheMino007]

If the guy was on the field enough he could be a good player. Baseball players are soft, but this guy takes it to a whole new level

[yankees228]

If the guy was on the field enough he could be a good player. Baseball players are soft' date=' but this guy takes it to a whole new level[/quote']

 

You know what he is...a word that starts with a "V". I just can't seem to place my finger on it...

[Cocos Disciples]

If the guy was on the field enough he could be a good player. Baseball players are soft' date=' but this guy takes it to a whole new level[/quote']

 

This is argument number two, frequently used after argument number one (commonly referred to as the "not living up to his contract" argument) is beaten into the ground with a shovel.

 

Next up is argument number three, more commonly referred to as the "RBI argument".

[TheMino007]

If your relying on JD Drew to be a big RBI masher, your in trouble, anyways RBI's as a stat are overrated

[Dipre]

This is argument number two, frequently used after argument number one (commonly referred to as the "not living up to his contract" argument) is beaten into the ground with a shovel.

 

Next up is argument number three, more commonly referred to as the "RBI argument".

 

If your relying on JD Drew to be a big RBI masher' date=' your in trouble, anyways RBI's as a stat are overrated[/b']

 

Coco= Win.

[Keeper]

If the guy was on the field enough he could be a good player. Baseball players are soft' date=' but this guy takes it to a whole new level[/quote']

 

Aside from the irrational Drew hate you're spouting, how exactly are baseball players "soft"? Their schedule is a f***ing grind.

[Spudboy]

If your relying on JD Drew to be a big RBI masher' date=' [b']your [/b]in trouble, anyways RBI's as a stat are overrated

 

I just want to assure members that TheMino007 is not a duplicate account of mine!

 

:lol::lol:

[Dojji]

Baseball players play more individual games in a season than players of any sport -- nearly double actually.

[BSN07]

You know what he is...a word that starts with a "V". I just can't seem to place my finger on it...

 

Probably why your single mate

[yankees228]

Probably why your single mate

 

Haha, well done.

[Red Foreman]

You know what he is...a word that starts with a "V". I just can't seem to place my finger on it...

 

 

I'd bet you've never placed your finger on one.