New York Yankees 2010 offseason thread

[a700hitter]

What's funny is that the new stadium has a closer resemblance to the original Yankee Stadium than the remodeled one did.

Much moreso than the 1976 version. I really wish they would bring back the big dimensions in CF and LCF. However, they pay ARod alot of $ to hit HRs. Maybe this stadium will be the House that ARod Built

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It may not be the "same stadium," but a lot of the original structure remained during the renovation. Granted, I'm sure the original was a much more magical place than the remodeled, but that's still the location where so much history took place. I never had the opportunity to see a game at the original version, so the '76-'08 version was my cathedral of baseball.

 

What's funny is that the new stadium has a closer resemblance to the original Yankee Stadium than the remodeled one did.

I'm not saying the renovated stadium was the spitting image of the original, but other than the outer facade and gates I don't see a resemblance at all. Even those features look much more grand here at the new park than what I've seen in pictures of the original. The inside I'm sure looks nothing like the original, nor does the frieze, which is just absolutely horrible IMO. Not taking the location into account, the frieze at the remodeled version was much better than the current frieze.

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Assuming the cost is VERY low, what would you guys think of Eric Byrnes?

 

You know the player I would LOVE to have if he were available, which he isn't, who is also very cheap; Garret Jones from Pittsburgh. I realize he's a lefty and they're looking particularly for a righty, but he showed some pop last year after years of dwindling around the Twins system. At Yankee Stadium with that pop he could put up some pretty good power numbers at the bottom of the order, plus the guy plays hard always, one of the players I really enjoyed watching last year. Obviously it's just wishful thinking, but I was thinking earlier about how I think he would be a good fit. I'm certainly not going to hold my breath since his contract is still very favorable for the Pirates, but with the history Huntington has of letting Cashman rape him, stranger things have happened. You never know.

[jacksonianmarch]

Byrnes is all washed up. He's Rocco Baldelli in terms of injuries without the upside

[a700hitter]

It may not be the "same stadium' date='" but a lot of the original structure remained during the renovation. Granted, I'm sure the original was a much more magical place than the remodeled, but that's still the location where so much history took place. I never had the opportunity to see a game at the original version, so the '76-'08 version was my cathedral of baseball. [/quote']I understand your nostalgia as the '76 stadium was the place you grew up watching your team, but that structure had no historical significance other than the geographic location of the plot of land. Maybe some structural aspects of the old stadium remained, but that was it. I also doubt that there was little in the way of substructure that remained. I think that was PR for the fans back then who were sad to see the old stadium go.

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I understand your nostalgia as the '76 stadium was the place you grew up watching your team' date=' but that structure had no historical significance other than the geographic location of the plot of land. Maybe some structural aspects of the old stadium remained, but that was it. I also doubt that there was little in the way of substructure that remained. I think that was PR for the fans back then who were sad to see the old stadium go.[/quote']

Fair.

 

Byrnes is all washed up. He's Rocco Baldelli in terms of injuries without the upside

I agree, I wouldn't want to see Byrnes on anything more than a minor league deal.

[Keeper]

When it comes to Pittsburgh, anyone can be gotten. Garrett Jones has always had pop, but not the contact and plate discipline he exhibited last year. He'll definitely regress in 2010, but obviously NYS wouldn't hurt his power numbers.

[yankees228]

Shame to see them have to let Hairston go, but I guess they really only have a couple million more dollars to spend on a RH outfielder.

[bsox0407]

Shame to see them have to let Hairston go' date=' but I guess they really only have a couple million more dollars to spend on a RH outfielder.[/quote']

 

I know that Edmonds is getting old but as a defensive replacement even though he is LH might be a good. another lefty with alright power in the short right porch.

[Dipre]

Yankees need a RH bat to platoon Gardner or a LH bat without platoon issues, or quality lefties will hurt that lineup very much.

[bsox0407]

Yankees need a RH bat to platoon Gardner or a LH bat without platoon issues' date=' or quality lefties will hurt that lineup very much.[/quote']

 

true but I bet getting Edmonds at a league minimum would be a steal.

[yankees228]

I know that Edmonds is getting old but as a defensive replacement even though he is LH might be a good. another lefty with alright power in the short right porch.

 

Assuming they don't open up their wallets and bring back Damon, they'll be looking for someone to platoon with Gardner in left. It'll probably either be Xavier Nady, Rocco Baldelli, Reed Johnson, or Marcus Thames.

 

As for the rest of the bench, with Hairston gone, it appears the Yankees will fill those spots from within. Ramiro Pena will probably serve as the utility infielder in 2010, but, he's a worse hitter than Hairston and can't play the outfield.

[Dipre]

true but I bet getting Edmonds at a league minimum would be a steal.

 

Not really.

 

He's extremely susceptible to LHP. You can find a similar RHH for around the same price as Edmonds, who's essentially an unknown quantity right now anyway since he did not play in 2009.

[bsox0407]

Not really.

 

He's extremely susceptible to LHP. You can find a similar RHH for around the same price as Edmonds, who's essentially an unknown quantity right now anyway since he did not play in 2009.

 

true.

 

I just like edmonds. prolly not a CF anymore.

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Assuming they don't open up their wallets and bring back Damon, they'll be looking for someone to platoon with Gardner in left. It'll probably either be Xavier Nady, Rocco Baldelli, Reed Johnson, or Marcus Thames.

 

As for the rest of the bench, with Hairston gone, it appears the Yankees will fill those spots from within. Ramiro Pena will probably serve as the utility infielder in 2010, but, he's a worse hitter than Hairston and can't play the outfield.

I know after Pena got sent down after opening the season in the Bronx they gave him a few starts in the outfield. I don't know how that turned out and if he was any good, but they could possibly give him some work out there in Spring Training.

 

As for Edmonds, if he comes back at all it will be for the Cardinals. If George was still heading the ship he might consider a crazy move like that considering the hard-on he had for him back in his prime, but it really makes no sense.

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Btw, I can't believe Gaudin got just under $3 mil. Crazy! What happened to that tight budget?

[Emmz]

Btw' date=' I can't believe Gaudin got just under $3 mil. Crazy! What happened to that tight budget?[/quote']

 

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[yankees228]

Btw' date=' I can't believe Gaudin got just under $3 mil. Crazy! What happened to that tight budget?[/quote']

 

When they say they only have a couple million dollars left to spend, they are not talking about arbitration eligible players.

 

The tight budget clearly exists, or Hairston would have been re-signed, because he fits quite nicely on this team.

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That doesn't make any sense though, they claim to have a tight budget, which is true, but then turn around and give a guy like Gaudin, who along with Mitre they may consider trading anyway, a $1.5+ million raise. I doubt he would have gotten $2.95 in arbitration.

[yankees228]

That doesn't make any sense though' date=' they claim to have a tight budget, which is true, but then turn around and give a guy like Gaudin, who along with Mitre they may consider trading anyway, a $1.5+ million raise. I doubt he would have gotten $2.95 in arbitration.[/quote']

 

When they're discussing how much money they have left to spend, they're already assuming salary figures for the arbitration eligible players. For whatever reason, right or wrong, they were fearful to go to arbitration with Gaudin.

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http://riveraveblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/NewBPCaps.jpg

Absolutely HIDEOUS, that goes for all of the new bp caps. 3930's in general are just awful IMO. I'm strictly a 5950 guy (got at least one for every team...well except the Sox lol, and dozens of minor league hats as well).

[jacksonianmarch]

When they're discussing how much money they have left to spend' date=' they're already assuming salary figures for the arbitration eligible players. For whatever reason, right or wrong, they were fearful to go to arbitration with Gaudin.[/quote']

 

Gaudin is in his 3rd arbitration yr and by all accounts, had a good season last yr as a starting pitcher. In arbitration, he probably could have commanded 5+ million.

 

I expect the Yankees to deal Mitre to be honest with you. Gaudin is the safety net.

[jacksonianmarch]

I know after Pena got sent down after opening the season in the Bronx they gave him a few starts in the outfield. I don't know how that turned out and if he was any good, but they could possibly give him some work out there in Spring Training.

 

As for Edmonds, if he comes back at all it will be for the Cardinals. If George was still heading the ship he might consider a crazy move like that considering the hard-on he had for him back in his prime, but it really makes no sense.

 

Pena played well enough to be an option out there in a pinch. That's about it.

[Imperial59]

Gaudin is in his 3rd arbitration yr and by all accounts, had a good season last yr as a starting pitcher. In arbitration, he probably could have commanded 5+ million.

 

I expect the Yankees to deal Mitre to be honest with you. Gaudin is the safety net.

 

By all accounts he had a good season as a starter last year? Can you name one person other than yourself just now who has referred to his 4.80+ perfromance as a starter last year in a positive manner? I highly doubt that poor performance somehow drove his worth over $5 million.

 

He was a long reliever/spot starter last year who was league average at best. The Yankees didn't save millions of dollars by avoiding arbitration.

[Plumpamania]

Gaudin is in his 3rd arbitration yr and by all accounts, had a good season last yr as a starting pitcher. In arbitration, he probably could have commanded 5+ million.

 

I expect the Yankees to deal Mitre to be honest with you. Gaudin is the safety net.

 

I know you're used to paying mad money for players, but you're a fool if you think Gaudin could get $5+ million in salary arb, especially when Wang never did.

[Imperial59]

I know you're used to paying mad money for players' date=' but you're a fool if you think Gaudin could get $5+ million in salary arb, especially when Wang never did.[/quote']

 

Yup, pretty much.

[Plumpamania]

But don't worry Imperial the Yanks got a STEAL!

[Imperial59]

But don't worry Imperial the Yanks got a STEAL!

 

I think it's pretty ridiculous to think that Gaudin would earn more in arb than Wang ever did, or claim that his below league average performance last year upped his value by over $3 million compared to what he made last year in arb. But I guess it was this kind of reasoning which gets me the "No one cares what you think. WAAAAAAA!" treatment.

[Dipre]

Gaudin made $2 million in 2009.

 

What part of his 147.1 IP, 4.64 ERA, 1.507 WHIP performance warranted a 150% raise?

[Imperial59]

Gaudin made $2 million in 2009.

 

What part of his 147.1 IP, 4.64 ERA, 1.507 WHIP performance warranted a 150% raise?

 

The best part of Jacko's post is the part where he claims that "by all accounts" he did well as a starter last year when his ERA as a starter was actually more than a run worse than his ERA as a reliever.

 

I guess sometimes he gets so desperate to pat his Yankees on the back for things as arbitrary as the salary of their long reliever that he feels the need to just make things up.