New York Yankees 2010 offseason thread

[Imperial59]

Aceves in AAA? Dude, the guy was the glue of our bullpen last yr.

 

He relieved in 42 games, throwing 80.2IP. His BP ERA was 3.35 with a WHIP a shade under 1 and 7.5K/9IP. On a lesser team, he probably would profile in the rotation due to his multitude of pitches and control, but even at his best, he doesnt appear to break the rotation in NY. He has a great niche, he is our new Mendoza, a guy who can come in for multiple innings when the starter gets hurt or shits the bed and keeps it close. He is vital to the success of this team in his role. While Hughes, Marte, Robertson, Rivera and now Park hold down the later innings, he is the savior of the middle innings. We need that.

 

Yeah, I was impressed with Aceves durability last year.

[jacksonianmarch]

I was surprised that he was as dominant as his number suggest. It was just incredible how he'd enter games that we'd trail 5-3 in the 5th inning and just unspectacularly shut down the opponent until the 7th inning when we handed it off to Robertson or Hughes, and surprisingly, we'd be winning. I know wins arent a good barometer of performance, but for a reliever in his position, it is. He won 10 games in 42 appearances. Meaning that the outcome was in doubt, either tied or losing in 10 games that he entered, and we came out victorious

 

Also, in 30 of his 43 games, he threw more than 1 inning, which shows just how vital his role was. Moving him to the rotation in AAA is a bad, bad move

[Imperial59]

I was surprised that he was as dominant as his number suggest. It was just incredible how he'd enter games that we'd trail 5-3 in the 5th inning and just unspectacularly shut down the opponent until the 7th inning when we handed it off to Robertson or Hughes, and surprisingly, we'd be winning. I know wins arent a good barometer of performance, but for a reliever in his position, it is. He won 10 games in 42 appearances. Meaning that the outcome was in doubt, either tied or losing in 10 games that he entered, and we came out victorious

 

Also, in 30 of his 43 games, he threw more than 1 inning, which shows just how vital his role was. Moving him to the rotation in AAA is a bad, bad move

 

One thing to keep an eye on is that he did have a .260 BABIP last year and he does tend to give up home runs. But he could be invaluable in middle relief going 2-3 innings at a time.

[jacksonianmarch]

He's probably due for a bit of a rebound, although for a guy with a WHIP under 1 as a reliever, his ERA in the mid 3's is surprising. I bet that his BABIP corrects but his homers come down, and his ERA stays about the same. Regardless, having a guy like him as insurance for your starters is crucial. Especially at the beginning of the yr when your starters are on pitch counts and bad weather could lead to rain delays.

[yankees228]

Aceves in AAA? Dude, the guy was the glue of our bullpen last yr.

 

He relieved in 42 games, throwing 80.2IP. His BP ERA was 3.35 with a WHIP a shade under 1 and 7.5K/9IP. On a lesser team, he probably would profile in the rotation due to his multitude of pitches and control, but even at his best, he doesnt appear to break the rotation in NY. He has a great niche, he is our new Mendoza, a guy who can come in for multiple innings when the starter gets hurt or shits the bed and keeps it close. He is vital to the success of this team in his role. While Hughes, Marte, Robertson, Rivera and now Park hold down the later innings, he is the savior of the middle innings. We need that.

 

I don't disagree, but lets look at the facts. The Yankees are going to carry twelve pitchers. The locks are...

 

-Sabathia

-Burnett

-Pettitte

-Vazquez

-Chamberlain

-Hughes (Girardi said he envisions the loser of the 5th starter competition pitching out of the pen)

-Rivera

-Marte

-Robertson

-Park (considering it's a guaranteed contract)

 

Girardi has publicly said he wants to carry a second lefty in the bullpen. Assuming he does this, that leaves only one open spot. They candidates for that spot would seem to be Aceves, Gaudin, Mitre, and Melancon. Gaudin and Mitre both don't have options left, unlike Aceves and Melancon. I think the Yankees like Gaudin a lot, and would be very hesitant to lose him. Additionally, I could envision a scenario where they want Aceves stretched out, so he would be ready to take someone's spot in the rotation, after the failed attempt last year.

[yankees228]

I just saw the post you made in the predictions thread. If you'd like, feel free to address the above post in that thread.

[jacksonianmarch]

I don't disagree, but lets look at the facts. The Yankees are going to carry twelve pitchers. The locks are...

 

-Sabathia

-Burnett

-Pettitte

-Vazquez

-Chamberlain

-Hughes (Girardi said he envisions the loser of the 5th starter competition pitching out of the pen)

-Rivera

-Marte

-Robertson

-Park (considering it's a guaranteed contract)

 

Girardi has publicly said he wants to carry a second lefty in the bullpen. Assuming he does this, that leaves only one open spot. They candidates for that spot would seem to be Aceves, Gaudin, Mitre, and Melancon. Gaudin and Mitre both don't have options left, unlike Aceves and Melancon. I think the Yankees like Gaudin a lot, and would be very hesitant to lose him. Additionally, I could envision a scenario where they want Aceves stretched out, so he would be ready to take someone's spot in the rotation, after the failed attempt last year.

 

Yeah, I went over it in the other post. My guess is that Melancon goes to the minors and Mitre gets dealt. I bet Logan ends up in AAA, and as I recall he should have one more option yr. I just dont think the Yankees will be giving a spot to a guy like Logan who really is a lefty only specialist unless he just knocks the socks off the coaching staff in ST. He really just doesnt have the goods.

[yankees228]

Yeah' date=' I went over it in the other post. My guess is that Melancon goes to the minors and Mitre gets dealt. I bet Logan ends up in AAA, and as I recall he should have one more option yr. I just dont think the Yankees will be giving a spot to a guy like Logan who really is a lefty only specialist unless he just knocks the socks off the coaching staff in ST. He really just doesnt have the goods.[/quote']

 

Well that's the key. It all depends on how serious the Yankees are about carrying two lefties out of the pen. I never acted like Aceves was a lock to start the season in AAA, but it's hardly a ridiculous theory.

[a700hitter]

Jeter's looking a little pudgy.

 

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[Imperial59]

Jeter's looking a little pudgy.

 

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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5406/photos;_ylt=AhWRcuBaCBBYgAp8v5_jSrWFCLcF#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cgetty%3A20050301%3Amlb%2Cphoto%2C48549cc2b66ebd633201d9cb9a527d05-getty-95659428nl002_new_york_yank%3A1

 

No, he doesn't. Let's not get dramatic about a picture of him in a windbreaker. He looks the same as he always has.

[a700hitter]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5406/photos;_ylt=AhWRcuBaCBBYgAp8v5_jSrWFCLcF#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cgetty%3A20050301%3Amlb%2Cphoto%2C48549cc2b66ebd633201d9cb9a527d05-getty-95659428nl002_new_york_yank%3A1

 

No, he doesn't. Let's not get dramatic about a picture of him in a windbreaker. He looks the same as he always has.

I would expect this from a Yankee fan.

[Imperial59]

I would expect this from a Yankee fan.

 

What's that say about you?

 

Any objective fan would say that Jeter looks the same as he always does.

[a700hitter]

What's that say about you?

 

Any objective fan would say that Jeter looks the same as he always does.

I wasn't trying to be objective, and I wasn't trying to be serious, and he does look pudgy in that picture.

[Imperial59]

I wasn't trying to be objective

 

Clearly

[a700hitter]

Okay. I guess I don't think he looks pudgy in that picture.

[Imperial59]

Okay. I guess I don't think he looks pudgy in that picture.

 

Think whatever you want. If you want to play tabloids with a picture of him running in a windbreaker, by all means...

[Spudboy]

You newbies just don't know who you're playing with!

 

Clearly Jeeter looks bloated in the blue windbreaker. Even his face looks big.

 

Who cares? It's all in fun!