2007 Spring Training Game Thread

[ORS]

Kilo' date=' his small sample size against the yankees is the reason for the slight change in era with his numbers subtracted. It doesnt mean that he is any better against them. And since he has never been in the yankees division, you cannot expect his innings against them to be high.[/quote']

In a 15.2 IP size sample, it doesn't mean he's any worse. I'm not the one claiming he's this or that. You are the one saying he sucked against the Yankees. He's much worse against some other teams. Check his splits page at retrosheet. He's closer to his career ERA against the Yankees than he is to 20 or more other teams. I'm just saying you claims aren't backed by the numbers, like they usually aren't because you don't know how to use them.

[jacksonianmarch]

my point was that he is the yankees bitch. That he is a bitch to many other teams is not my point. It also shows how quality a player this guy is

[TheKilo]

my point was that he is the yankees bitch. That he is a bitch to many other teams is not my point. It also shows how quality a player this guy is

 

[a700hitter]

I think I might have been mixing up Romero with Rincon (a righty) who had great stats, but always got raked by the Yankees. He's trhe choker. Romero is s*****, but not a choker.

[ORS]

my point was that he is the yankees bitch. That he is a bitch to many other teams is not my point. It also shows how quality a player this guy has

Your point is based on 15.2 measly innings. You know this sized sample tells us nothing, but if you think you have a point, that's not my fault.

 

The game logs are more revealing. He's pitched against the Yankees on 22 occasions in the regular season. The Yankees were able to score ERs in only 5 of those appearances with 6 of the 9 runs coming in 2 of them. So, 77% of the time the Yankees are his bitch, and only 9% of the time do they put up a crooked number. All this s*** is free on the 'net Jacko. I'm not making it up, nor am I making you look foolish. That's your doing.

[jacksonianmarch]

ORS, seriously, your point is useless. Here is something for you.

 

Last 3 yrs vs the yankees

 

15G 9.2IP 15H 6ER 8BB 4K .375BAA 2.39WHIP

 

need I say more?

[jacksonianmarch]

just because the rest of the minny pen has been good at bailing him out doesnt mean he sucked any less. 23 baserunners, only 6 scored.

[CrespoBlows]

Hansack would probably do a reasonably well job.

[ORS]

ORS, seriously, your point is useless. Here is something for you.

 

Last 3 yrs vs the yankees

 

15G 9.2IP 15H 6ER 8BB 4K .375BAA 2.39WHIP

 

need I say more?

No, you really don't. If you think a 9 IP sample is meaningful, well Jacko, that just says it all my friend.

[jacksonianmarch]

15 appearances over 3 seasons. 5 appearances per season for a player on a team that would face the yankees maybe 9-12 times a year. So he appeared in potentially half of the games his team could have been. I am sorry there isnt more power to the argument, but the argument still sticks. The guy allowed 23 baserunners in 9.2IP. That isnt by accident.

[redsoxrules]

15 appearances over 3 seasons. 5 appearances per season for a player on a team that would face the yankees maybe 9-12 times a year. So he appeared in potentially half of the games his team could have been. I am sorry there isnt more power to the argument' date=' but the argument still sticks. The guy allowed 23 baserunners in 9.2IP. That isnt by accident.[/quote']

 

in that case boston has a lot of bitches in NY from last year

[jacksonianmarch]

On the other side too.

[redsoxrules]

On the other side too.

 

oh but jackson i wasent talking about the other side so you cant say that

[jacksonianmarch]

1st amendment baby. I'm gettin my law and order on.

[VA Sox Fan]

1st amendment baby. I'm gettin my law and order on.

 

Oh God, does that mean the Riv is not far behind?

[jacksonianmarch]

Oh God' date=' does that mean the Riv is not far behind? [/quote']

 

absolutely not.

[VA Sox Fan]

absolutely not.

 

 

Just giving you s*** bro.....:harhar:

[seabeachfred]

Romero was a malcontent his last year in Minnesota and they were glad to get rid of him. Last year he was a disappointment with the Angels and Scioscia lost confidence in him. That's two bad years in a row for a player that has had attitude problems in his career. I'm not all that confident having a guy like that in there when the game is on the line. It is one thing to be a discontent in the Twin Cities but it has been rare when this has happened in Anaheim. To be honest I am very leery of Romero. I hope he can come through for us and get his career back on line but I'm not counting on it. Besides, I'm not enamored with someone who has more than his share of troubles with the Yankees. That's the team we have to beat.

[riverside sluggers]

Fred considering his best use is to be a lefty specialist, he shouldnt be on the mound really late in the games when its "on the line"

[ORS]

Fred seems to be rewriting history too. Romero has not had two bad years in a row, not statistically he hasn't. I think his usefulness against lefties is more relevant than his history against the Yankees, too. Even in his bad years he holds lefties down to a .220/.300/.320 like line. That Yankee lineup is very left-handed: Damon, Abreu, Giambi, Cano, Matsui, Eye-chart. That's 6 out of 9 starters, and their bench doesn't have a bat that causes me any worry against him.

[jacksonianmarch]

If Romero comes in to face Monkeybitch, you can expect to see Melky or Phelps. But yeah, 5 of the lineup will not be pinch hit for, then again, Matsui hits better against lefties and the others hit lefties rather well aside from Giambi. He is the only lefty (from memory) who is dismal against lefties out of the bunch.

[VA Sox Fan]

Pirates v. Red Sox-1:05pm

 

Lugo (ss)

Youk (1b)

Papi (dh)

Manny (lf)

Drew (rf)

Tek ©

Mikey (3b)

Coco (cf)

Dusty (ha ha) (2b)

 

Gabbard (p)

[ORS]

Gameday

[schillingouttheks]

Is today the first time they're fielding their real starting lineup?

[ORS]

No, they had them all in against the Yankees. Although, with Wake pitching, Belli was in there. So, technically, that was the real lineup.

[VA Sox Fan]

Observation, not a concern. A pattern of too many men LOB, except when the non-roster guys are in.

[redsoxrules]

everybody is swinging at the first pitch on both side

[VA Sox Fan]

Gabbard is having a good outing so far. 1 hit, 3 k's.

[ORS]

everybody is swinging at the first pitch on both side

And all K's are 3-pitches, all walks 4-pitches. They don't track pitches during ST.

[VA Sox Fan]

Tavarez w/ a 1, 2, 3 inning.