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so just have the mcdonalds manager do coras job then, right? cuz hes just a message relayer? Thats absurd.

Because they thought that top brass showing face would mean something to devers. JH thought his direct involvement would be seen as "wow, the owner is here, I guess I am important" by Devers. And it would help. BUt Devers wasnt about to start sniffing farts like higher ups usually expect.

Cora was at the meeting between JH and Devers. Red Sox are weird about stepping in and doing other peoples jobs, cant blame Cora. Just like how now Henry is calling rival GMs not Breslow and nobody knows why.

So you think Coras job is to relay breslows decisions to the players? Im not so sure that Cora saw it that way. Im sure Breslow the dictator does. When Breslow asked to fire Cora, Im surprised they let him.

When the comment that was made that Devers interpreted as put your glove away, Casas was the plan at 1b. Cora said BS on Devers being told to put his glove away but because they hadnt yet given up on him playing 3b, that had nothing to do with 1b. The timeline is key here. 1. Red Sox sign Bregman 2. Nothing is communicated to Devers 3. That weird interview happens when Devers repeatedly refers to himself as a third baseman, not a DH or any other position....People start getting nervous that we have the ingredients for a fall-out 4. Insiders report that the plan is for Bregman to play 2b and Devers to play 3b and this was always the plan. However, for ST, Devers will DH because his shoulder is still healing. 5. Everyone but Moon and Notin are happy. THey want Devers at 1b because theyve decided it would be good for team and have been howling at the moon for it for 3+ years. I disagree and personally think the best hitter on your team should usually DH and they are your most important asset and defense is overrated (except for CF, SS). I also disagreed that Raffy makes too much to DH and was a neg contrct. But most people are just happy that it appears things are getting better in the clubhouse. 6. Devers shoulder continues to not heal enough, so they open the season with Bregman at 3b and KC at 2b. KC opens the season very hot. Bregman opens the season very well at 3b. Neither are looking like they are going anywhere, so where does Raffy play? Is he going to remain a DH this year? Starting to look like it. For that reason.... 7. Its communicated to Raffy at this point that his shoulder is still not healing. And he will be the DH until he can play in the field, and with Breg/KC/Casas, it may make sense to just remain the DH this year. And we dont want to lose your bat and that shoulder is still scary. While true the shoulder isnt healed 100%, its also extremely convenient. Everyone can see that. Theres just no place to put Raffy in the field. 8. KC shits the bed and Casas gets seriously hurt for the year. Suddenly there are vacancies in the infield. 9. Captain can make any situation worse (Breslow) approaches Devers to play 1b. I dont think it made sense and I am not sure how Cora felt. Yes he said around this time he did not ask Devers to play 1b, but we dont know how he felt about it. It wasnt the obvious decision here some think. Personally, I thought it was a bad idea. Hes mashing at DH at this point, hes not complianing. We are winning. Just leave it there. I said make Roman the 1b. 10. Of course the situation goes worse. Always does whenever Bresbot talks to anyone cuz he doesnt human well. But Devers isnt blameless either, and is coming off as a stubborn defiant child. 11. There is a meeting with Henry, Cora, and Devers only. Bresbot was asked not to attend cuz he makes everything worse. It sounds like a meeting that went nowhere but with positive spin. "Both sides got a chance to voice their side of things and thats always good, but we still dont know who will play where" 12. Raffy continues to carry our offense and we are hot. 13. Bresbot trades Raffy out of nowhere because Raffy had the balls to not immediately say "yes sir" to Bres the dick-tator. So Bresbot came around and traded him months left because revenge is a dish best served cold and Breslow is petty. Breslow also made plenty of other situations worse too, not just Devers including: ruining relationships with his scouting team, Bregman, Cora, Whitlock, Story, Varitek. But Breslow is difficult and so is Devers, and they both contributed to a blow up. But there was only a small point in time when Devers was considered for 1b and it had didnt have much to do with the saga. It was just like chapter 8 in a 10 chapter book of how to expose yourself as a bad baseball CBO. And this is why even Theo said Bresbot cant human. But winning cures everything, and we are winning right now, so maybe Breslow escapes with his job intact after this year. He should already be fired though.

As the main piece in getting Pena, a 5 WAR SS, with 1.5 yrs left modest AAV on his deal. Thats pretty good value for Mayer. I just dont want to trade him to trade him. There is a decent chance he is a good MLB player at some point, if maybe, not as good as we once thought. Theres also a chance he turns into a core player for whatever team he happens to be on. Hes lost some shine, and Im not trading him for very little. BUt Id trade him for significant value.

I think Id make that deal.

If getting top prospect value , sure.

how much trade value though? Better bet might be to just try again next year with him. Byron Buxton struggled into he didnt. I consider moving Mayer, but he has options , right? Im more keen to send him down.

he doesnt hit well enough to fill one of those spots though. At least not if we want to be a serious threat to reach playoffs and be competitive once there.

The plan (until Casas got hurt) was to see how Devers shoulder healed. Once Casas was long term hurt, the plan changed, but again, that was in the fourth quarter of the saga, not the first.

It wasnt the plan.

It was real, it was mediocre though - we have much better pizza here in RI.

Do you know about other sports? Wondering if the trend extends to hockey and basketball. Just curious.

i had landed on pizza, but this would have been great.

I dont know but its orange outside cuz of the candian wild fires.

well now that youve solved that maybe you can figure out what I want for dinner

Devers was moved from 3b to dh 100% because of his shoulder, 0% because the team thought it was the better defensive alignment. So when they asked him to play 1b, when they had just told him hes a 3b who needs to dh while his shoulder heals.... But a lot of people here were convinced that they were going to move him to 1b because those same posters had been screaming for it for 3 years, so when the rs do it, of course, those posters are going to perceive it as validation, but it really was never the plan here for devers to be moved to 1b to better align the defense. Even if someone pulls up an article saying they saw him as an eventual DH/1b and maybe they considered that. But thats just every contract for a position player that takes them past age 32.

The original plan was Devers-3b, Breggie-2b, Casas-1b Devers had hurt his shoulder year prior, and they were already a little concerned about its healing, and they liked that Breggie could also play 3b and even 1b and even of, but the plan was to keep him at 2b. Devers shoulder continued to heal alarmingly slow, and so the plan was to start the season with Devers at DH while he recovered. Breggie slid over to 3b. Eventually, for no reason, things got escalated and wires got crossed and mountains were made about molehills, that all happened prior to Casas injury, so 1b wasnt considered. That was jsut people here oft repeating their preferred defensive alignments. But as soon as it kind of settled down and Devers accepted that his shoulder looked scary and its a when not an if he gets severely hurt 3b playing defense before the next offseason, and because breggie, it would make sense for devers to dh rest of season. This is when Casas got hurt Then they asked him to play 1b as if it would be the magical solution, but he saw himself as a 3b playing dh until his shoulder got ready. He never lost the job because of performance. That was never communicated to him. That was just assumptions from people here who thought it made too much sense to not do.

Jeremy Pena grew up in Providence, RI like me.

Casas.

The plan was for Bregman to play second, and Raffy to play 3b. But Raffy's shoulder was already showing issues in spring training, and it hadnt healed enough over the offseason, so Raffy was temporarily moved to DH and Bregman to 3b, and KC to 2b - but it was originally intended to be temporary. Then with Bregman playing well, it started to feel permanent.

feels too good to be true reece witherspoon and mayer for shea dange-ears

Exactamundo. Especially if he swings a biiiiig thumping bat. Its impossible to overpay for Jordan Walker.

I say go big, but target a guy who will be here beyond this year. A superstar and overpay if you have to.