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When TedYazPapi calls you a horse the first time, you say "Im not a horse man". When TedYazPapi calls you a horse a second time you hit back a little bit something like Actually, Trevor Story led the team in errors last season with 19, which was ten more than number two on that list. Abreu came in at eighth overall with five. Kristian Campbell ranked ahead of him though, with seven. When TedYazPapi calls you horse a third time, its time to accept fact and eat some hay. Im sorry, Alan.

I agree, and Im not against speculating what those trades might be when we are closer to the deadline , just wanted to point out that so much can change and there are many unresolved questions already. Short of bringing in an absolute stud if one is available, I think we are best served with a little patience. If we are rounding into June and making up no ground, maybe then we start getting itchy. But the team is starting to come around and we're winning games at enough of a clip to warrant just waiting on more info from like Durbin, Mayer, catchers, health, Roman (just the arm)....

Get off the they cant move Duran, its nonsense. There are 29 teams interested in Duran. Not everyone who someone considers moving, and doesnt get moved, is pulled from the trade block because the player is not moveable.

Looks like you are just going to have to change your name to Alan, Alex

Theres too many potential scenarios right now to talk about trading Duran. Versatility is good , as it allows us to have our best 9 hitters on the field without being a trainwreck defensively. Which is the goal. Not ideal defensive optimization. Lets let our catchers heat up before we decide that Roman to first is not a possibility this year. Lets let Durbin and Mayer heat up before we decide to keep them up all year. RA at 1b/Contreras at C Cedanne at 2b/SS (mayer in AAA) Cedanne at 2b/ss (durbin getting the vaughn grissom) RA being wactastic all year with the arm and having to play DH I dont want to rush into a trade that cant be undone with so much unsettled. I can see multiple different combinations/positional alignment by playoffs. And thats even assuming full health. When we factor in who could get hurt, plus how things could shake out with our 5-6 question marks - there are just so many ways that logjams work themselves out. And we're playing better now that I think we can buy ourselves a little time. Im fine moving around deck chairs and position swapping and even swapping around in batting order because that can all be undone. Im fine sending down someone with options becasue that can be undone. But trading Duran (or even Cedanne right now)....What if Roman still cant throw, Durbin is Vaughn Grissom 2.0, Mayer is still hitting .200 in June, Story is an error machine, Abreu is hurt, and Narvaez is slumping hard But youve traded Duran and Masa and now you are just terrible. We have too many question marks and too much versatility in my opinion to be stressing about how who could have and didnt subtract.

What if we divorced the 2? Would you be open to moving Story off of SS if it was someone else to take over?

This is the first post that Ive seen in this thread, from Alex, that I would consider to have "an agenda"

No! Every single problem the Red Sox have had since 2019 is squarely the fault of the fans! How dare you

This is a good point, and I dont mean to fully argue against it. Just illustrating why I think guys like this are underrated. A good example of a guy who : "if johan got in a guy like this would have a stronger case than he deserves" is Jacob DeGromm. Dominant but not enough consistent longevity/availability. So maybe I should have never brought in HOF. Because I do think that 10-20 years from now - DeGromm will be underrated because people will look at his career WAR and put guys who were not nearly as good as getting hitters out above him because they played longer. IF you were never a top 7 pitcher in your era, I put Johan and DeGromm above them, but some of em may have higher WAR. My main point is that I tend to think guys like Johan and DeGromm are underrated, not really that they deserve to be in the hall of fame.

In most cases, yes. And btw , I lean yes on Saberhagen too. But Johans 5 year stretch might be the best ever 5 year stretch for a pitcher not in HOF. And someone has to have that, i get that. If Johan were to be in, there would be another guy who had the best 5 year stretch of all pitchers not in hall. But Johan had finished in top 5 cy young voting , 5 years running and was heading for a sixth when career ruining injuries started. Saberhagen had close to as many dominant years but they were spread out and he had the benefit of not getting so hurt so young. I understand the danger of scaling for health and luck. But I do think that sometimes , in rare cases, you have to contextualize it. If A dude came up at 22, and was the best pitcher until age 29 and died in a plane crash, he'd prob get in. In rare cases, I am willing to consider what a pitcher/player did over a span even if the longevity isnt there. And for some of those guys, I tend to think they are underrated. Only the ones who were dominant in that stretch but something happened outside of their control that zapped their career short. I would prefer an A++ player for 8 years than an A- player for 20 years. I would consider a guy like Johan underrated in my eyes but that doesnt mean I think hes a no doubt HOF'er. I just get more jazzed about peak upside/dominance than longevity. But not as much as I use to. I have recently started givng more props to the dudes who were very good for very long because thats just as hard to do as be completely dominant in a short window.

Love Greinke. Another guy who I feel gets underrated by the historians is Johan Santana. I understand his career was cut short by injury but man did he dominate in that window. I dont even think hes in MLB HOF.

Glavine is a good comp. Some differences (Glavine was a 2-seam primary vs 4-seam for Early) but both very fluid, lefty, good secondaries, lack of 100 mph, control, poise. Im not sure if Early can field like Glavine did but Im not sure they even teach pitchers to field these days.

Yes, the tone of that post was not 100% serious.

I think the only pitcher who I would comfortably say was clearly better than Kershaw is Maddux. I think that you can make very storng arguments for RJ, Pedro, Steve Carlton and Seaver. Maybe 1-2 others. I would rank Kershaw like top 10 all time, but back half. I think Kershaw was better than Nolan Ryan, Verlander, Doc Halladay, Glavine

I would give Walter Johnson a "too far back, disqualified" just because I just dont have the apatite to try to force a comparison between two pitchers from such different eras spread so far apart. And I would take Kershaw firmly over the rest. Gibson has a career 127 ERA+ and 3 top 5 cy young finishes and Kershaw has a career 154 ERA+ and like 7 top 5 cy young finishes. I would take Gibson firmly over Bob because even though I love my some heater from Van Meter, he was famous for being awesome yet incredibly wild and he was. I think he led the league in strikeouts and walks and HBP like 8 years in a row. I lean Gibson over Koufax but thats a lot because Koufax retired at 30 years old after 2 cy youngs in a row. Not sure why exactly (injury or jsut going out on top)

I find that at a team level, runs scored is very correlated to RBI's. Hmmmm HAHA I was trying to think of the ways of ways to score a run without an RBI with a budy recently. I know that if bases loaded no outs, and you hit into a double play with a run scored = no RBI I feel quite confident that if you are at bat and there is a wild pitch or passed ball resulting in a runner scoring = no rbi. I feel you would get it drawing a walk or even getting plunked with bases loaded. I feel like it can get a bit murky with errors and it would depend on the error. So if I hit a single with a slow runner on second, but there is an error on the play. Lets say I was going to be safe at first anyways (so its a hit) but the throw to first sails into the dugout (the error allows me to advance to second) and the runner scores and he probably still would have scored without the ball sailing into the dugout but its impossible to know for sure.......I assume it would give the hitter the benefit of the doubt RBI because its a hit. Maybe not though if the scoring runner was full stopped at third and then the throw to first sails into the dugout and the full stopped runner on third is granted home cuz ball out of play, maybe no RBI in that case? So maybe it becomes a judgement call in this rare example.

For my money, Kershaw is the best pitcher since RJ.

I think this closes the book on the great OBP vs SLG debate. Our OBP perspective, we are like 16....From a slg perspective we are 26th.....From an overall runs scoring perspective.....hey look, smack dab in the middle. Maybe there is something to this OPS thing.

Im not going to hold my breath. Seems like this dude has a lot to figure out.

I assure you, he was not pitching in major league games like they were AAA untethered to results. If he has an ERA of 2.1 vs 4.1 and hes in arbitration the difference is 1 mil vs 5 mil and he wasnt rich at the time.

When Crochet was the closer in CWS, he was the best one in MLB. So, Im not really understanding this argument about being free to throw what he needs to work on. Its not what happened. He was an awesome closer. The whole notion that there isnt pressure, I cant get behind. He now makes millions upon millions of dollars more than he would have , if he stunk. Whether or not Tolle gets called up to pitch in relief this year will likely depend on 2026 variables, not looking way far into the future. I actually think being in a ML pen is BETTER for Tolles development of secondaries than being in AAA. He'd be around major leaguers and major league coaches and could potentially pick something up. Like learn circle change or something FROM A MAJOR LEAGUER And if he wants to test out a new sweeper or change or curve, he can ask his teammates to pick up a bat. You dont have to be in AAA to learn new pitches or practice them. Personally, I wouldnt call him to pitch in relief yet. But Im not like dead set against it happening at some point. And I do not think it would like stint him or set his development back or anything like that. I think playing in games is overrated for development. You can work on your swing, pitching mechanics all that stuff outside of a game.

That escalated quickly.

To start the year, yes. I thought he would get less than 40% PA's.

I think you missed his point 2x. I think he was sarcastic when saying he was happy Masa was getting run and its a plan coming together. I also think he meant that Raf and Abreu will be benched one at a time, next 2 games, not bench both this game and next.