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Rumor: The Red Sox Plan On Spending This Winter
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
'72 was a tough one, but a fun year. '74 is maybe the most underrated Red Sox choke of that era: first place on August 23rd by 7 1/2 games... and they finished freaking third. Lowlight of '74 was losing a Labor Day doubleheader in Baltimore by identical, excruciating 1-0 scores. Tiant and Lee pitched great in 8-inning complete games, but Grimsley and Cuellar were better in 9s (if the internet existed back then, it might still be extinct after Sox Nation blew it to Kingdom Dumb). -
For a sec, thought you were paraphrasing "Helter Skelter" -- I almost scrambled for the blow-torch in the tool shed.
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Season-ticket holders should have opt outs. If the team doesn't spend to upgrade during the offseason, or either buy or sell at the deadline, season-ticket holders should be able to opt out of the second half and get refunds. And while we're at it, regular guys should have opt-outs from the draft beers they buy at Fenway. If the beer gets warm in the plastic cups before half-empty, they get to dump them at the door of the president's office. If the beer stays cold, however, the drinker can opt in, and get his cup topped off at the tap.
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"Giving away Bagwell while a prospect was bad enough, but the Red Sox had a HOFer about to enter his prime... and couldn't keep him."
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Breslow is way ahead of you. He already recruited a high-ranking Rays' front office guy, Taylor Smith, to "assist" the other John Henry loyalists upstairs. After a full year, Brez looked at all the recent big money "investments" -- Story, Yoshida, Devers, Giolito -- and said, "Wait, I signed that last guy... we need help -- call TAMPA!"
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I think he meant these were two separate mistakes, because Bloom pretty much sucked at the majority of his moves and non-moves. Nothing against the guy; he's young enough to learn, and I'll bet his tenure in St. Louis turns out better (though I cannot and will not give a GM/CBO credit for selecting any best player available in any draft, because that's his job). As for Mookie, I can't say this better, four years later (from the Pay Mookie Thread!): "Boston losing Betts can't be as bad as losing Babe Ruth, but I fear it will be the biggest Red Sox mistake since -- one that media and rival fans will haunt our sons with for a long time... especially, if the BoSox blow much of their savings on free agent busts filling unavoidable voids, trying to win back fans."
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Except for Raffy -- who we all thought they were forced to extend -- all the others you listed were "stealth" signings by our clever conglomerate of good ole boy lifers in the front office. The Assistant Vice Presidents get together each offseason to cleverly outbid themselves for a free agent that no other club could give a market value to...
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Andrew’s 2025 Payroll Blueprint: Making the Sox better
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Andrew's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Never mind the proposed additions. What struck me, looking at salaries, is that Yoshida will get paid more money this season than Duran, Casas, Abreu, Rafaela, Wong, Refsnyder and Hamilton combined. And Story -- the Sale of position players -- will get $4 million more than Masa. And of the returning starting pitchers, Giolito -- who still hasn't thrown a pitch in an official Red Sox game yet -- will get paid more than Houck, Bello, Crawford, Whitlock and Criswell combined. Even if the MLB payscale game is structured such, there always has to be some hard feelings (unsaid mostly, but existing) with such inequities on a roster of highly competitive pro athletes. -
Is this really a time for a fancy new car? Looks and runs great, but the old water boiler is starting to rust, and with winter coming, heat and hot water may be more of a priority. If the pipes freeze and crack, damages could also include new walls, furniture, and carpet. Plus, there's a bus stop right on the corner, and the train station is a block away. So do we really need a Maserati? Or even a Felger?
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When the Big Three was called up to Worcester, Mayer was the leading hitter in the Eastern League, Teel was second, and Anthony led in extra-base hits. The point is, if these guys have serious holes to be exploited, what hope is there for all the other minor league batters who weren't as good? In early Portland games I attended, all three guys took humungous swings and misses, but Mayer was the most consistent line drive machine. In later Worcester games I attended, Anthony and Teel both made better contact by going to the opposite field more. Campbell, by the time he joined them in the summer, just crushed everything everywhere. The weight shift was exaggerated, but so were the pitches that jumped off his barrel. It will interesting if that success sustains itself at the top level.
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Because Story is a five-tool player in the National League, a guy who averaged 4.5 WAR per season in 6 years in the NL West... instead of the 4 WAR he's earned total in 3 years in the AL East?
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I like your breakdowns on these moves, and am intrigued by Vlad -- because if Boston misses out on Soto (which, face it, we all expect), then the Red Sox surely have all that Soto money to sign another masher in his prime, plus considerable other funds to spend on arms. Trading Casas and replacing him with Vlad also goes a lonnnnnnnggg way in achieving Breslow's stated goal of balancing out the batting order.
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Here's a quote from the "Pay Mookie!" thread, now almost four years old: "I feel Mookie's career and contract will be defined by his performance over the next half decade, during which time I fully expect him to produce another 30 WAR and lead his new club to at least 450 wins. If he helps win another World Series, it will be worth it to that franchise and its fan base." Man, was I ever off on that one -- Betts only has 27.4 WAR since joining LA... although, since he led all of baseball with 3.6 WAR in 55 games in 2020, maybe he would've earned another 3 WAR or so if that season lasted another hundred games. Meanwhile, the Dodgers have won 458 in the Mookie Era, plus 31 more in the postseasons (while the Red Sox won 359 total).
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Soto could break down in his 30s and become another Pujols. But the difference for the next half decade is this: Albert didn't start playing on his new contract with the Angels until he was age 32. Whoever signs Soto gets Juan in his prime years at age 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31. Through his age 25 season, Pujols actually had a better start to his career than Soto (37.7 WAR vs. 36.4 WAR), In his next six years Albert had 49 WAR... if Juan averages 8 WAR through the next half dozen campaigns -- with another couple World Series appearances -- can his club live with albatross seasons in the back end of his contract? Btw: as bad as Pujols was at the end, here are 162-game averages through his age 32-37 seasons: 2.4 WAR, but 31 doubles, 31 homers, 110 RBIs.
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Except that Mookie was here -- and wanted to stay here. He must have expected to agree on some extension in Boston, since he and his wife were house-hunting the same winter he got traded. But we only have HIS word to go on -- unlike reporters and agents blabbing about Soto.
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This looks decent, and if the first three guys comeback to previous performances it could get you through a playoff round. A more reliable addition like Tanner Scott makes it legit. I liked what I saw from Guerrero, and Penrod's stuff. I did notice Hammy and Wink were previous Bloom targets, but he said he'd only accept Josh in trade if we put him on the IL first. When I suggested he expand the deal -- Story for Sonny Gray -- Chaim stammered, and (you know what's coming), stared off into space until August.
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i bet if you upper case your entire trade proposal and send it to chaim bloom, he'd be all over it: two minor major leaguers for only one all-star closer (just don't wait until the trade deadline next summer)
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Someone in the White Sox org recently said they intentionally capped Crochet's starts at 4 innings in the second-half so he wouldn't burn out from overuse. He didn't say "so he wouldn't burn out... or get injured and lower his trade value." But I thought it. What say the Chicago baseball reporters?
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An All-Star closer for a couple of guys who did time in Worcester last year? Cy me up!
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Doesn't your post really belong on the Soto thread? He was the one big reason the Yankees were so much better and went so much further in the postseason... ... and if Juan's stats alone weren't enough, his biggest effect may have been just for wearing the crap out of pitchers in his at bats, and turning them into rag-arms vs. the rest of the line-up -- especially the very next batter, who not coincidentally had the greatest season of his career, pulverizing all those mistake pitches. Think Soto can do that for Raffy next year? Or Teoscar? Or Vlad Jr.? Or Polar Bear? Or Roman Anthony for the next decade?
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Such commitment could already be a verbal agreement from the meeting, with maybe even some of Boras' other clients as targeted acquisitions. Soto did ask about the team going forward and their player evaluation process. I'm not saying promises to improve the pitching staff were made, but it's also doubtful AC said they could use openers and still win, as long as Juan's in the line-up every night.
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Agood one. Asplendid time is guaranteed for all.
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It would be cool for FOX to have to show pics of a young Juan Soto wearing a Red Sox cap, to compliment/insult past pics of Yankee youths Cole and Volpe. But we know they won't be able to stomach it. They always have to leave room on promos to show vids of Bucky, Buckner and Boone... ... to fill in for the missing footage of Brock Holt's cycle at the Stadium, and Eovaldi beating NY in two different postseasons; lowlights which apparently never existed in the history of this century.
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Mike Greenwell, lifetime .303 hitter... Troy O'Leary, all-time playoff home run hero... -
Big Papi told Bradford he was with Soto's mother and brother last night; they live in the same building. Juan grew up a Red Sox fan. Fellow Dominican legends Ortiz, Ramirez and Martinez may still be big influences. (Julian Tavarez -- maybe not so much...)
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