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Fried sounds like the perfect guy to add depth to Boston's rotation... of rehabbing IL pitchers. Just to be on the safe side, the Sox should wait until he has that second surgery, then pay him to rest, recuperate and come back as good as a new name hanging in a clubhouse locker. When he suits up, said Sam Kennedy next summer -- referring to two summers from now -- he'll be better than any trade deadline acquisition we can find (especially since he'll be all paid for... well, except for what we'll owe him for player options he can exercise while not throwing most of the next half decade).
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
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I knew it, from the moment they first started pumping those plastic dumbbells in his honor! I thought to myself, Even I can lift air... -
Here's where Tom Warner should step into the negotiations: Roki's a young guy, Boston's a college town -- what could be more appealing than all those co-eds in attendance at Fenway Park, taking advantage of all those special student discount tickets?!?!
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It's time to pretend you're the GM of the Red Sox!
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Why not? As notin points out, the Red Sox are so rich, they can easily add all three of Fried, Roki and Crokie... ... if John Henry wants. The rest of the Nation certainly wants -- as opposed to another wrong winter of lowering the gross irrational product. -
It's time to pretend you're the GM of the Red Sox!
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And don't forget, after they trade for Crochet, it's going to cost another $20M once they extend him; $100M for 5 years? (... using the Phillies' 2020 comp for Dan Wheeler -- 5 for $118M -- at age 29. Wheeler was an innings eater for the Mets but not yet a star or Cy candidate). -
Ya, and 30 years later, any rotation contrast of righties and/or lefties might only affect a couple of at bats per batter per series, since starters are lucky to last five innings. Nowadays, it's much more important to have a tough southpaw reliever available late in the game to get lefty hitters out with low-breaking sliders or sweepers. Up and in gas can also do the job, just don't miss down and in... (this whole post is another plea to sign Tanner Scott, who may have more bidders than Soto and Sasaki).
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I thought of him, but he went back to the pen and became an All-Star reliever. -
So... about the same chances as actually signing Roki.
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Yup, about the same chances of Brez being allowed to sign any pitcher more costly than maybe Manaea... and that even includes Buehler, who doesn't have a Qualifying Offer.
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He wouldn't pay market prices to keep the Red Sox best all-around player in modern history. But only a few years later, he paid to keep a one-dimensional slugger. Yet John Henry doesn't seem impulsive, like most rich men at the top of their industries used to doing whatever they want and not having to pay the consequences. Henry remains calculated. He knows the Red Sox need talent at the top of the starting rotation, but is also surely aware the Dodgers just won the World Series using an opener and bullpen game. If JH thinks Soto will be a better longterm business decision, he may be inclined to make the investment (instead of spending big on pitchers, whose entire careers hang by the thread of an elbow ligament). Just look at all the other sports and tangents he's spent on post-Mookie.
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As long as he hits 40 homers a year and walks a million times, fans will tolerate his D, the way they did Manny's. The young outfield core of Ceddanne, Roman and Wilyer can cover center and right -- and they're all better defenders than Johnny Damon, who the Sox won a title with, next to Manny being Manny out there. (Duran will be dealt for a starting pitcher... and he still might, if they sign Teoscar instead of Juan).
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I was perplexed they risked letting him opt out if he had a good year. But your research shows they weren't worried. Now even if he has great year in '25, his two-year stint averages out to mediocrity... ... unless evaluated by the same scale as math test scores; in that case, 100 + 0 divided by 2 = 50 (still a failing grade, especially for a combined $38.5 million -- but if Boston really likes Giolito, they can keep him for another $19 mil or so for '26).
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It would also drive Cora insane to have to load up one end of the batting order with all tough lefties, and the other with weak righties. It's why he often hit Ref and Romy in the middle of the line-up last year... But if the Sox sign Fried and Buehler, and trade for Crochet, then I'm all in on Soto playing in front of the Monster for the next decade.
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Everything, every team, flows from the top of the rotation. It doesn't matter if you're trying to advance in the postseason or trying to advance out of last place; it all starts with starters. That's why it's baffling whenever someone posts -- in any year -- "this isn't the right time to add an ace pitcher" or "we don't want to waste him." It's always the right time, and he's never wasted. The only thing wasted is the fans' time watching a group of #3s and #4s all year instead... That's also why when the Red Sox acquired Schilling to pair with Martinez, who fronted Wakefield, Lowe, and Arroyo, it formed the starting rotation for the best Boston second-place team this century.
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We're not saying Giolito can't be good again, but my point from the day of his signing is that he didn't just have a bad month or two at the end of 2023. He had overall bad stats for two straight years -- 2022 and 2023. And the worst part for the Red Sox -- who have recruited and paid starting pitchers for less than market prices for over half a decade now -- is that they gave Giolito a top rate to sign... and didn't even get what they paid for.
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5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
The word on MLB Sirius is that Hoffman -- All-Star reliever -- wants to be a starter in '25, and go the route of Crochet, Eflin, Hicks, Lopez, Whitlock ad nauseum... Would Barnum and Bailey recruit him for their circus? -
Those 4 HRs (you meant to type 1990, his last year in the minors) is why Lou Gorman should've consulted his farm directors and scouts, who knew Bagwell's potential. That season he led the Eastern League in hits, doubles, triples, total bases, and was second in OBP, OPS and BA -- .333, one point behind a guy with over 100 less PA. Jeff's 4 HR were second to team-leader Eric Wedge's 5... don't know if you've ever been to the "old" Beehive Stadium, but back then the bees themselves had to be on steroids to fly from home plate over the fence. At the time, I think the all-time NB season record was held by Ellis Burks -- who hit 14 total. Mo Vaughn, who was from Connecticut, led the club one year with 8.
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Just like the same divorce/changing team excuses last winter, posters again conveniently ignore Giolito's bad 2022 when he had a 4.90 ERA for just Chicago, gave up more hits in less innings than '23 and had a worse overall WHIP. At least Lucas didn't lead the league in home runs allowed, like he did in '23 -- hey, when he finally joins Boston's rotation this season, we'll have two starters wearing HR crowns from the past two years!
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Both Abreu and Crochet will be 26 in June. With the surplus of young position players, the Red Sox have to be willing to swap Wilyer for an All-Star lefty starting pitcher. 2024 Abreu: 3.5 WAR 15 HR 58 RBI 125 Ks .253 BA .781 OPS Here's another young outfielder Boston recently traded, with age 26 batting stats in the year he also won a Gold Glove... 2016 Benintendi: 2.6 WAR 17 HR 73 RBI 97 Ks .276 BA ,766 OPS Here's one more BoSox farmhand who was once traded for a pitcher (except the arm was attached to a 37-year old), and his age 26 Gold Glove season... 1994 Bagwell: 8.2 WAR 39 HR 116 RBI 65 Ks .368 BA 1.201 OPS Moral of the Post: trade Wilyer Benintendi for Crochet... but don't trade any Bagwells.
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At least he didn't say the whole front office mantra: "I think we have to be open for business to improving our team profit margin." So the student discount tickets for cold Spring weeknights vs. loser opponents should be safe.
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Good thing for stats -- otherwise, the world only got to see Mookie run fast and make great plays in the postseason.
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Rumor: Garrett Crochet to the Red Sox?
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
The White Sox only owe Robert $19 million. Would it be worth it to a rebuilding team shedding payroll to exchange him for Rafaela, who is under contract for $44 million? They might prefer instead a top prospect making MLB minimum wage. -
There's also the factor that Juan Soto is a great hitter. Mookie Betts is only a great all-around baseball player in every aspect of the game.
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Top 7 free agent relievers per Keith Law
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I'd be surprised if Breslow and Bailey don't focus upgrading the pen or at least stockpiling depth. Both are former MLB relievers, so they know 1). successful back-end pitchers are year-to-year (even Paxton, a starter, said this, recently); and 2). successful comebacks from injury by Hendriks, Fulmer and Whitlock are not guaranteed. Whitlock's best season is still his rookie year, and 2021 seems like half a decade ago. The plan seriously can't be to make a run with two healthy arms, especially one entering his sophomore season, and the other with undefined/multi-functional roles. Now if you told me the plan was to make a run with a mediocre rotation, backed by a lights-out bullpen, I'd believe it. LA just won rings conceding a loss by using an opener and resting its best relievers. -
Top 7 free agent relievers per Keith Law
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
The Sox need two legit back-enders to replace Jansen and Martin. Scott will make the most money in a bidding war with big-market playoff teams, so Boston should move fast on Yates and Estevez -- although this is a Dombrowski strategy, so don't rule him out in striking first. Robertson has been suggested as a veteran presence in the pen -- and where would we be without another old buck at risk to pull a calf muscle jumping out of bed in the middle of the night on the way to the bathroom?

