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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Well that's my point, if he hurts the team because of the money then how does that help the team by paying him to play somewhere else? That's like saying this pizza is hurting my diet, I can get rid of it by laying on the couch all day doing nothing. I'm still fat at the end of week. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I'd say by judging this board that fans are not optimistic, optimistic people are optimistic and pessimistic people are pessimistic. They both think they're realists. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Nothing. So what? irrelevant. What does a guy not on this roster have to do with players on it growing and improving? The following players on the 2015 Red Sox came back in 2016 and improved their war by Mookie Betts +2.6 David Ortiz +1.7 Rick Porcello +4 Dustin Pedroia +1.6 Hanley Ramirez +4 Stephen Wright +3 Sandy Leon +2.6 None of that was free agency or offseason moves. My statement was 100% about this team having the talent on it to grow and bounce back better than 81 wins. And let me reiterate, just so there's no confusion. I don't think they can compete for a world series WITHOUT making significant upgrades to the roster. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I think the team should be better next year with the core they have and have coming up. I think the team could be MUCH better if they add quality pitching via free agency and trade. I'm optimistic on the first statement, and pessimistic on the second. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I think signing a front line starter and a closer gets this team better, not subtracting from the bottom of the roster. At the end of the day, if Masa is ever healthy and can play a full season he be a 1 WAR guy who can hit off the bench and play LF when needed (which hopefully isn't often). He's not hurting the team Of course one has to wonder if he gets hurt and can only start 100 games or so, in which case there will be another roster spot open up anyways Perhaps there's a bench bat out there that will take the Sox from 81 wins to 90 wins. If there's a 9 WAR bench player.......I'd sure like to meet him. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
All I know is if the Red Sox trade Masa they will win 100 games. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
That's an extremely pessimistic view. So you guys must think very little of all the young talent on the team. Casas/Bello/Crawford/Duran/Hamilton/Abreu. Sure maybe Duran had a career year but you must think very little of all the talent on this team to think the aggregate doesn't have the capacity to grow. If you truly believe that then you must think that this team is years away from contention because baseball is a team sport. Do we also think very little of the crop coming up in Teel/Anthony/Mayer/Campbell. The big 4? when is the last time the Sox had 4 guys top 25 all on the cusp of the major leagues. Even if 3 of those guys busted and one became a star that improves the team by more than ONE game. Here's some food for thought. The 2016 Boston Red Sox who went from last place to first place was almost EXACTLY the same team. They had a young core that got better and other players who had a bounce back year. This 2025 could be that team, and if they go out and sign a starter and closer, guys like Burnes and Scott they could be world series contenders. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I get the point you're trying to make, but typically you make a move to get better. You're not getting better by trading Yoshida, and he doesn't exactly hurt you as your 4th 5th outfielder/ part time DH bench bat. If we trade Yoshida we will have to do one of the following. A.) Give up a very valuable piece to get a team to eat his salary B.) Eat all or most of his salary to get back something of value. With A, you're not really doing much to make the team better only shedding salary and he's not taking up a starting position. I get you could have roster flexibility without him, but the team has on it's roster and guys on their way up that can start and provide positional flexibility. Also, Yoshida can hit, he doesn't have negative value. I think the most important thing to consider about scenario A. Is, even if you wanted to trade a high value prospect to shed his salary, you still need to find a team that 1.) wants Yoshida on their roster and B.) and can take on the payroll. Also, how many teams are in that scenario and also willing to open up two spots on their 40 man. This is all very unlikely. with B. You're paying him to play elsewhere, and I don't think you're going to get back anything of significant value even if you eat all his salary. I think you can get a good prospect, but I don't know if you could get a top 10 guy, maybe someone who would be in the 10-20 range. It all seems just so unrealistic compared to trading for an ACE in terms of constructing a winner out of this roster. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Peoples obsession with getting Yoshida off this roster is starting to make me really want Yoshida to stay. Which of course, is almost a guarantee to happen so I'll be rooting hard for him next year, may he be a great bench bat. -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
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It's going to be awfully hard to argue otherwise if they don't spend this offseason. -
The fact that Dave Dombrowski was fired was very telling. Not always, but typically when you are very high up the corporate ladder you're fired behind closed doors and offered the chance to retire/step down/move on etc etc. To me this suggests, he had strong feelings towards John Henry's demands for budgetary restriction. Oh to be a fly on some walls back in 2019. Some of the conversations that may have transpired that will never come to light would be truly interesting to hear. I'd like to imagine this one happened. "Dave, he won't sign a team friendly deal, and it's going to put us under budget, you need to find the best deal for Mookie Betts you can" "John, you're crazy, no one in their right mind would try to trade Mookie Betts without honestly trying to reach an agreement first. I'm not going to trade you, you're going to have to fire me"
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This is my exact point, this story was followed with scrutiny in which I've never seen before, so we have nothing to compare it to. Here's what I do know, I know what it's like to hire someone, I own a business and I hire people all the time. I put out an ad and people apply. In my experience when people apply for a job, they're typically interested in accepting it, although I have offered people a position who have ultimately declined, it happens. I would imagine, that if I went out and offered a position to people who already had a job, I'm going to get a lot more no's. I'm going to run into people who are happy where they are. I would imagine that if I'm asking people to move their entire families to the other side of the country when they already have a job, I'm going to run into a lot more no's. Imagine you're in a sales position. I'd imagine you end up closing a lot more deals where people COME TO YOU, rather than going out and trying to solicit business. It's the nature of the beast, there are only 30 of these jobs on planet earth so of course you're going to have a wish list of guys you want, and I think it's natural that some are going to decline you if you're soliciting them. Think about this, was there ever a time when the open search for a GM/POBO was ever covered like this? When LA/NY/KC/DET/MIA/HOUS/MINN etc etc. went out and hired a new front office executive over the last couple decades were countless stories put out about every person they talked to and offered an interview to and was declined? I can't think of one, we have zero clue how normal what transpired was. But the media certainly had a narrative, and I don't think they really know either......so I didn't buy it.
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I'm not disagreeing he fired multiple CBO's. I'm disagreeing that nobody wnated the job. I think that narrative is BS and madeup by sox nation. Think about it, what template do we have to compare that circus to? none. we don't know.
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I actually still don't believe that narrative, there were plenty of people interested in the job, the media just made a whole nothing burger about the people who didn't want it. Easy to make a story and pile it on when you don't like someone.
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Yes, but that was the following year, the team that went from last place to first place was all built from guys before DD, he just added the sprinkles on top to take them from a first place team to a world series winner. My point was, he didn't make a last place team a first place team, that team was already in place.
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Oh, he apparently has no shame in it. At this point, if he fired Breslow after a year or two and blamed him for the team after a few more years of no big moves....who bites?
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And GM's should be nitpicked, but also not blamed for what's not their fault at the same time. But that won't happen in it's entirety ever, much like politics the current GM/POBO will always get credit/blame for the current team no matter how much of it was built by them. Dave was good...BUT. Mookie Betts/Xander Bogaerts/Jackie Bradley JR/Dustin Pedrioa/David Ortiz/Rick Porcello/David Price/Stephen Wright/Hanley Ramirez. Those were the top 10 performers in 2016, Dave was only responsible for Price, who vastly underperformed his contract. To say he came in and is responsible for turning a last place team into a first place team when 9 of their top 10 performers were already there is a gross manipulation of the truth.
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Casas has put up a .772 OPS vs. lhp and might even improve so if he's healthy we're not losing much in the infield, we might even better vs. LHP than RHP if Campbell excels and Story stays healthy. It's hard to bank on Rookie, but Roman Anthony shows promise, despite being a left handed hitter facing left handed pitching does not phase him one bit. In 2023 he put up a .902/1.092 OPS vs. LHP in Greenville then Portland and in 2024 he put up a .893/.915 OPS vs. LHP in Portland and then Worcester. If he's elite, and it looks like he could be, you have to throw the lefty righty thing out the window. Sometimes really good hitters just hit pitchers....weird I know. That might be enough if you can fill in the gaps with righty bench bats, guys like Refsnyder, and maybe another piece. Here's a consideration, the Sox as a team put up a .728 OPS vs. LHP compared to a .747 OPS vs. RHP. Yeah, pitching is priority.
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I'm a very new member of the Tanner Scott bandwagon, he would look good in red.
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I would agree a lot of the Sox misfortune in recent years can be drawn up to bad luck, but we can't ignore how much of it has also been due to incompetence and poor roster construction.
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No luxury tax limit and penalties back then. Yes the Yankees spend, but they had young infused talent on those teams as well.
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Over the last 29 years, 20 of 29 teams had a top 10 payroll who won the world series. The lowest 3 payrolls who won: The 2017 Astros who were 17th, and they spent big to stay on top and win again. Then the 2015 royals, who did not spend big and did not stay on top. the 2003 Marlins, who did not spend and fell apart and haven't done anything since. Aside from 3 2nd place finishes, one of which was the covid year, and another with a losing record.
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True, but the first 8 years since 92 were much better than the proceeding 24. They've been good and competitive, but besides 09 they have very little to show for their winning the last couple decades. A lot can change if they win it all this year. I will absolutely hate it if they get bragging rights. Lets go Cleveland!!!!
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The Phillies certainly have had more to cheer about than the Red Sox have over the last several years, but their window may be closing soon with nothing to show for it other than one world series loss. Harper/Wheeler/Turner/Nola are all in their 30's and lock up for many more years. They will have $201 million dollars locked up into players who are over 30 next year. I'm sure Phillies fans aren't sad right now, and none of them will be complaining if they win the world series next year, but at some point over the next few years they're going to fall off fast. Then again, great franchises find a way to stay good, and don't get bumped down to the basement for too long (are you paying attention John Henry) so it will be interesting to see what the future holds for them.
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