Hugh2
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That's what Stork thinks Soto is worth, and if the Sox do sign Soto he will be in here moaning about the price tag. Those are just the facts people and the facts are not up for debate.
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That’s it, that’s your offseason. No other moves will be made. Get mad, let’s get crazy
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Your batting line in T-Ball????
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
Hugh2 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Soto had a .966 OPS vs LHP last year, who cares about a RHB. If you have an opportunity to sign a once in a generation talent you take it. Pivot to pitching after that. -
I mean, the #4 #5 starter on most teams isn't that great.
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30 mlb teams?
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No but he has more team control
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I don’t think Montgomery is going. But I can see a slight upgrade from Gonzalez in the piece. if Casas/Houck/The big 4/ Montgomery are involved I want no part of it.
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What BTV doesn’t tell us is how CHW values these guys internally. If they like Abreu….they like Abreu. Who knows
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Perhaps, I built that trade around the rumor that they like Abreu as a headliner. I'm not going to get hung up who the 2nd or 3rd guy in that trade will be.
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BTV accepts. Hey, this all plays into the fact that we don't know how teams internally evaluate players. Wilyer put up a 3.1 WAR as pretty much a platoon player and that's insane. If they think he can mature into a guy who can hit LHP better they think he's a potential superstar. Then again, the report that the White Sox would accept Wilyer as the headliner could be erroneous but if we take it at face value that's a fair trade.
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Aren't they already an AAA team?
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WIlyer Abreu/Franklin Arias/Wikelman Gonzelz for Garret Crochet. Then go out and sign Soto/Fried/Scott. 2025 world series champions.
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The problem with this post is you're taking todays top 10(ish) and then just taking the top prospects in other years. in 2013 Betts was ranked 10th and Vasz 13th? The guy who is ranked 23rd in our system right now could be the future #1 and a perennial all star for all we know. You almost have to consider perceived value at that time because that's the value they had at that point. Moncada wasn't a great prospect in hindsight but the reality was he gave us an ACE so that was his value. It's a tough experiment either way, but this is easily among one of the strongest systems the Sox have ever had maybe the best. Now, may some of these top guys disappoint? perhaps.
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They do, followed by Baltimore and Oakland.
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So then is my prediction he gets over 60 million not BOLD? or is only between 50-60 not bold?
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Before his extension Tyler Glasnow avg 1.25 WAR per year and got paid 28.5. Teams don't just look at stats on fangraphs and weight a certain number of years there's many other various factors will. Durability, potential, age, and of course every team has their own internal evaluations of guys. A team could see two 2.0 WAR pitchers completely different and might pay double for one. Pivetta misses bats, that usually gets a big premium in FA, it's the equivalent to HR on the hitting side. There are teams out there who probably look at Nick and see a guy who is a pitch or an adjustment away from being much better than what he's been. He's getting money, take that to the bank.
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Wait and see. ADD: if I had to legit guess I'd say he's getting closer to 50, I firmly believe he's going to get a lot more than people think he is. I'm set on that, but this is a BOLD prediction thread. If anything.....that's not BOLD enough.
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Another BOLD prediction. Pivetta will get over $60 million dollars.
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Changing an approach and being going from a free swinger to a guy who takes walks is probably the hardest thing in sports. You have less than a second to make a decision, you're literally trying to re-wire your brain. One can hope he continues to develop elite contact skills and can maintain a decent average, occasional power, speed on the bases and elite defense. I think he will be good if he will do that but he's never going to be great. Which is why his extension really perplexed me.
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ROKI is going to cost you team control for 6 years. He should have zero bearing on being able to go out and sign other guys. No reason to not sign him and Fried/Buehler.
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That's fair, but if he takes his BB% up to something more reasonable like lets say.......4% I think he gets partial credit.
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That's why he's not making bank, and that's why I won't him as the second starting pitching acquisition and not the primary one. That's interesting, admittedly I'm not too familiar with his injury. Did it take that long to recover? or did he have set backs? or ancillary injuries along the way?
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Has a player ever increased his BB rate (full season to full season) 4 fold? I'm guessing very little if ever. But, it's certainly a BOLD take so I gotta respect it.
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I think he does too. If he's the guy who showed up in the playoffs and he's succesfully recovered from TJ then he could be one of the best pitchers in baseball for the next several years. And he'll cost you a fraction of what Fried/Burnes will.
