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  1. I don't think he will eclipse that but you can easily be correct. I was crucified months ago for suggesting he might even get $50, but he could easily be looking at at least $60 million plus. I'd be very surprised if he got below $50
  2. Younger, with 3 more years of team control. I would could just stop there. History of a starter, Crochet is a converted reliever who threw a record 140 innings and with a history of injury I'd be concerned his next is right around the corner. It's not even close. Woo is the type of guy you want, not someone who's entering arby years, has a higher risk of going down, and you gotta pay to extend anyway.
  3. I was exaggerating. But I'll not be surprised if he's getting something in the 50-60 million range.
  4. Even then, Manny's age 22-25 season he put up 13.5 Bwar 13.6 Fwar. Juan Soto put up 26 Bwar 24.6 Fwar I think we should just stop trying to comp Soto. #want
  5. Fair, especially if getting one back from the guy we all knew would get a QO, reject and sign a massive contract Nick Pivetta.
  6. This whole thing started because we were comparing elite players WHEN they hit free agency, that's what makes Soto so unique. Manny was 29 when his contract with the Sox started.
  7. They make zero sense, I just don't understand why they extended Bello/Rafaela and gave them the money they did. I really really really like both those guys too, but you already controlled them for so long and I'm not sure how much upside is there to justify not taking advantage of their control years. But I think Devers was fine.
  8. Sean Manaea? He had a good season. 3.47 ERA in 181 innings. 1.084 WHIP 6.6 H/9 and 9.1 SO/9. I would certainly not waste a pick on him and sign him long term however.
  9. This would make a lot more sense for me than Casas for Crochet.
  10. I really don't think anyone is going to think they're "back" until they actually sign someone. We know it, they know it, and then know we know it. And I know that they know that we know it. No one is buying the bull s***. I will say this. The team has repeated the mantra over the years that they would spend when they have a talented young core to build around. For the past 5 years they've gone from bloated aging payroll with zero farm, to s***** team with zero farm, to s***** team with a good farm, to .500 ball club loaded with budding young talent, more on the way and payroll space. Even when they signed Devers, they said "this is the type of guy we want to sign" after failing to retain Bogaerts. "type of guy" is young. They have a young team and the opportunity to go after Soto, I think it's real and the crazy thing is if they do go out and spend this year, technically they will of ended up doing exactly what they've said they would do all along. The only thing is, even if they're 100% for real and ready to spend and build this team into a winner again. That doesn't make them the favorite, at best that puts them on par with NY/NY/LA. So even then I'd say their odds to land Soto are 25% at best.
  11. Yeah, I wasn't the one who made that comp, I think the comp was made in that being a good player reaching fa when he was young. Not my first choice, but even then if you did sign Arod starting at his age 26 season and used him as a comp. But I'll roll with the Arod comp just because someone threw it out there. ARod gave you 7 elite seasons, not just really good but elite. Followed by 4 above average and put up 68.7 FWar his next 11 seasons. Even his last full season he put up a 2.5 at age 39, when they finally just DH'd him more because before that injury was really starting to get to him. That's also starting at his age 26 season, which was actually 2 years before he got paid, you're getting 2 more years of Soto in his prime and by all accounts is 10X the human being Arod is.
  12. This is exactly why I said Pivetta could get a QO and then why I said he’d decline. Pitching costs $$$ even mediocre pitchers are making bank.
  13. Love it, this is pretty much where I see things going. I think there could be a different bullpen name or two. Love adding Soto and adding a good catcher. I do think there's a very good chance a rookie starting.
  14. I'm find with it, I wouldn't hate a guy on a mutli year deal. Maybe a team likes Wongs bat behind the plate enough for a trade, not necessarily this offseason but maybe at the deadline, if Teel is ready room may need to be made and it would be optimal to have a guy on the roster who you can rely on but also help Teel continue to develop. I'm not sure Wong is that guy.
  15. The best fit on the FA market, might be Elias Diaz. If you could carry a defense only guy, I'd love some Austin Hedges, but I'd be more interested in him as a back up if we had a solid starting catcher. Diaz is more of a complete defensive catcher and while he can't really hit he's nowhere near the black hole in a lineup that Hedges has been.
  16. What I'm curious about is Connor Wong, is he a good catcher or a bad catcher? because he looked decent at one point but he looked awful last year as the year went on. Is that because he was overplayed there? if that's true, then getting a good back up catcher who can defend might make Wong better as well. I think they need someone who can easily catch 100 games for them, and if it's more around 60 or so, then fine whatever. But I think they need someone who is good enough to pair with a good young catcher for a few years (Teel) if Wong isn't it. That transaction can pair very well with building up the pitching staff.
  17. Good read, and summary of the state of the Sox. From what we've been hearing to WHERE we've been hearing it from it certainly seems like this offseason is actually going to be different. Yet, there's really no good argument against those who want to say "yeah, I'll believe it when I see it" I will say this, Sox nation is never happy. If the Sox spend money on big name free agents, people will be upset that they spent money or they spent too much, or they spent it on the wrong guy. If they trade for assets people will be upset that they traded away prospects and future stars yada yada yada. Winning cures a lot and dulls the symptoms in many others.
  18. If they sign Soto it’s because they’re expanding the budget. I believe if they sign someone like Soto, they’re going out and getting pitching too.
  19. Honestly, why not just do 675/15? Get the AVV down to 45, and he’s likely going to have an opt out around year 4-5 anyways.
  20. And for the first 5 years after he arrived in NY he was the best player in the game with 3 MVPs and two more elite seasons. He was fine for 8 years. Arod was also 2 years older when he started playing in NY, you’d be getting more of Soto in his prime. hes going to get an opt out and only be somewhere for 3-5 years anyways so who cares. If Arod sucked when he was 37
  21. And LA and NY will stay over the luxury tax threshold too for 12-14 years?
  22. Well at that point he’s either opted out or the Sox have traded him. Sox aren’t signing Soto then packing it up and being frugal with him here
  23. You can expect several more losses to the 40 man before the offseason is thru
  24. What better way to start showing the fan base you’re back, break them out of the fog of not expecting big things, and turning into contender than going out and signing Juan Soto? probably the biggest no brainer we’ve had in here in years.
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