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  1. It’s like….ya’ll are cheering for Sox failure and another 86 years of darkness
  2. Yeah, so theres one. Still it's rare. Harper did have a 28.7 Fwar at that time, that's pretty darn close to what Soto did.
  3. Al Bundy still talks about his 4 touchdowns in one game
  4. I mean ok, but it’s going to be really annoying really quick if that’s everyone’s go to for everything. Lou Merlin said it best on the section 10 podcast. Move on, f***ing up the Mookie Betts contract doesn’t mean the Sox can’t sign anyone good again. omelet if anyone has listened to it you should. It made me feel a lot better. I’m ready to move on again.
  5. When you read that last line you should think of Yoda
  6. The year is 2078, the Sox have just finished celebrating their 3rd intergalactic series win in a row. A an old fan was heard on his death bed “mooooooook ie….beh……tsssss”
  7. At the time of their free agency Soto just turned 26 Seager 28.5 almost 2.5 years older Soto to Seager FWar at the time of FA Seager 21.8 Soto 36.3 this isn’t a power ranking but the point is Seager is not Juan Soto. Even if Seager plays better than Soto for the next ten years,, he will never have been the once in a generational talent to hit free agency in his mid 20’s that Soto is.
  8. I did, further back I was the one who said Soto was a once in a generation free agent opportunity, in which MVP responded with a list of guys who were good and also become free agents the past several years. In which I responded that they were all older than Soto and less productive. Even when Seager hit free agency he had almost 1/2 the way Soto does. what Seager did 2 years after he signed an extension at 30 years old has zero bearing on the argument of who they were at the time of their free agency, which was the point. That point being the elite free agents in their mid 20’s very very seldom hit free agency.
  9. Ok but aren’t we comparing free agents? Soto is more than two years younger than Seager was when he signed a contract and at that point in time when they hit free agency Soto almost doubles Corey’s WAR. the argument was free agents like Soto do not come along often. The fact Corey Seager had a good year last year is 100% irrelevant
  10. Yeah, I mostly say this in jest, like…it’s funny to me. But honestly, I’m not 100% convinced either. People who are fired/let go if they have honor, or professionalism just won’t discuss certain things. Not saying I do believe it, but I guess what I’m really trying to say is I don’t care. it’s been 5 years, I’m moving on with my life. I’m ready to love again.
  11. I really don’t care. From these day forth I shall never talk of Mookie Betts being traded again. It’s been rehashed a billion times and obviously gets people going. i get it, he’s good and the Sox f***ed up. The hat was 5 years ago and it doesn’t mean they can’t go out and sign other good guys.
  12. I actually think DD might of been told to trade Mookie, maybe he was fired because he wouldn't. Would seem very DD like "you're crazy we're not trading Mookie, you will have to fire me John." But like.....what was your point if you agree Bloom was instructed to trade Mookie?
  13. I read this after I responded, we both made the same joke.
  14. A. it's pretty well established. If you think a guy can be hired as a new GM, trade away a HOF and not get fired for it if he wasn't directed to do it I have a bag of air I'd like to sell you. B. I don't give a s***, it has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. C. It can both be true that Bloom was told to trade Betts and he was a horrible GM. I choose C.
  15. I haven't seen anyone call Fitts a potential mid rotation starter, not saying they haven't. But it certainly sounds like Priester is the one with a better ceiling.
  16. Boston is not Tampa north. hiring a guy from Tampa doesn’t make you Tampa. The same way that hiring someone from India doesn’t turn you into an Indian. If there was an ounce of truth to this the payroll would be down around $100 million. They’ve had five years to shed payroll now and they’ve not. Sure, the moves they have made have sucked, but making s***** free agent signings doesn’t mean you just ignore that money spent and say “see…..Tampa north” lol
  17. Results doesn't reflect talent, yes results 100% matter and is ultimately only what matters but consider this. You can have two pitchers with the exact same results but one could have the potential to be much better than the others based on their stuff. Priester has much much better stuff, that's indisputable and teams dream on upside. Priester has higher value to more teams.
  18. Hiring Bloom had nothing to do with it, Henry directed him to trade Mookie. Just because Bloom came from Tampa means nothing, the guy in charge of the DOdgers was poached from Tampa so that argument is just wrong.
  19. What does that have to do with them not turning into Tampa North because they outspend them on payroll 2:1? Facts, they outspend and out revenue Tampa. That's my argument and it's 100% backed up by fact. If you want to say they have spent their money poorly and chose to not resign franchise players fine, no disagreement from me there whatsoever. I can't argue against that, but from a pure dollars and cents perspective Boston is not Tampa Bay North and there's no evidence they're turning into them. I think our arguments got mixed up here at some point.
  20. Even if Revenue was the same thing as payroll. Which it's not. THe Sox are still not Tampa North https://www.statista.com/statistics/193645/revenue-of-major-league-baseball-teams-in-2010/
  21. There's a direct relationship between payroll and wins/losses. Not nearly as strong as revenue. YOu can lose 100 games and still turn a profit as a company. To me revenue is 100% irrelevant here. When fans say "Boston is become Tampa North" they're talking about payroll. They're talking 100% about the money spent on the players on the field, they're talking about investing in the team. Boston has consistently outspent Tampa 2:1 They're not Tampa North, they've just normally sucked.
  22. I get that Fitts had a nice stretch in Boston, but I'm not convinced by that 20 IP sample size after showing very mediocre stuff all year in AAA. He very well could end up turning out more MLB value, but I think Priester has a much higher ceiling. For that his trade value could be higher.
  23. Ohtani 29 Judge 31 Semien 30 Seager 28 Freeman 32 SOTO will be 26 years old when he starts the season. This is a different animal here, we are talking about one of the best players in the game reaching free agency at the beginning of his prime and not at an age when guys can start to slow down. The closest guy on your list is Seager, who is not only 2 years older but at that time had accumulated a 21.8 WAR where Soto has a career War of 36.3 Juan Soto type free agents just do not come around very often. They just don't.
  24. That's an entirely different thing. Payroll is directly effected by which players you trade and sign for. I honestly don't think a single fan could care less about whether revenue is down or up as long as the club is winning
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