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It’s all relative. Who is underperforming? Is it the middle of the order SS? Or the CFer you expected to bat 9th? And who’s getting injured? A middle reliever? Or the guy you expected to be your ace? With this team it’s highly debatable. Regardless, those two things combined (under performance and injury) are by far and large the difference maker between last year and this year.

So should we strive to be more like the Yankees? Would you say they’ve been more or less successful than the Red Sox I’m the John Henry era?

It’s also worth noting many key players who have remained healthy have underperformed as well

So there’s one. So it’s possible. Now, is that the norm? Or would you say teams that sustain significant injuries have a harder time competing? And last time I checked the Sox aren’t out of the wild card race so, while we’re not the 2019 Yankees, we are competitive

The greater argument is injury Impacts record. More injuries, and better players effect it more. If you think you can lose your ACE, lose a lead off hitter, or lose a middle of the order bat and be fine, then work that in reverse. Why do you need to acquire those guys? Seriously no point in getting a RF/CF this off-season let’s just get a bunch of back ups. Starting pitching???? Excuses we got plenty of guys in AAA who can start? Extend Bogaerts? Blahhhh just thrown downs in there.

Was that over 100 million?

You would think any fan would pause at that an day, huh…how come major trades aren’t made earlier? It’s not like some teams are doing it and other aren’t but rather it simply doesn’t happen. You would think there’s a reason for that, even if you couldn’t under why it would be basic human instinct to recognize that pattern. When people hate someone, they will find any reason to criticize and critique them. Just because we see the fallacy in their arguments and the absurdity of it all doesn’t mean we think Bloom is perfect or should t come without criticism. But then again….only Sith deal with absolutes.

When? When did the Yankees have over $100 million on the DL and remained competitive

No I’m not, I literally never said “all the problems are on the starting rotation” I explicitly laid out position players who have been injured as well. But again, you fail to address that point, and answer my other question about major trades happening in May and early June. These are all facts, you can still assign some blame to bloom it’s a feee country. But you can’t deny the facts. When do major trades happen in May? How many other teams in MLB history have had over 100 million on the DL and reached the playoffs?

How many teams could lose almost their entire rotation and still compete?

Did they ever lose more than 1/2 their rotation, a starting CF, 2nd middle of the order bat at the same time? Did they have over 100 million in payroll on the DL? And did they win the World Series any of those years? FTR we are not a sub .500 team, we are a .500 team. If we win tonight we will be above a .500 team. With an unprecedented number of key injuries.

Name game? Did I call you a name? Read my comment again. I also noticed how you couldn’t answer a simple question.

And this whole “not building a bench” fallacy falls flat too. Your bench is not going to be as good as your starters. If you had someone to match Chris Sales production he wouldn’t be starting in AAA, if you had someone as good as Story ready to take over 2nd you’d have switched his position or likely traded him for a need elsewhere. You can have good backups, that can perform for a short period of time, but bench guys are bench guys for a reason. And to think the Sox should have a plan for when 1/2 their payroll goes down is just unreasonable. The rebuttal I could care less about but for anyone else listening this might be a fun trivia ideal. What’s the most cash a MLB team has ever had on the DL in an MLB season. The Sox have had well over 100 million this year, more than some other MLB teams entire payrolls. That has to be a record or close to it.

Why does everyone else always wait for the trade deadline? If Bloom is so dumb for doing so where is the plethora of big names moving in May and June every year? You’re getting mad for Bloom not doing what’s obviously not done for a reason. No other GM is looking to trade.

And how come moves like this don’t happen all across baseball? Didn’t anyone stop and ask themselves why the other 29 teams don’t do this either?

You have this duality. You keep on arguing about how horrible this team is and no excuses for being in last place. But you wanted upgrades made to the team at the deadline. This is like having $15,000 to put towards your car and wanting buy a new engine and transmission for your beat up 1994 dodge neon with 250,000 miles on it, and it’s 2018 and you think you should fix up the old car instead of just buying a new one. This team can’t be too poorly constructed to compete, and yet only a deadline move or two away from competing. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Weren’t Kike and Dalbec really good at the end of last year too? When GMs sign guys they should make sure they’re going to be good every year, not just sometimes. If you can’t predict future outcomes and injuries you’re just a small market ray.

So what you’re saying is the team, not injured on opening day is the team Bloom is at fault for? The one that effectively took you two games within a World Series? So KIKE sucked, bad Bloom, how many people have him strife for that pick up last year. Good players and good teams get off to slow starts, bad teams and bad players go through stretches were they perform above their means. That’s what happens in a 162 baseball season. Imagine if the Yankees flip flopped their first month with their last month? They’d have been worse than us to start off the season yet look where they are now. You have to look at the season as a whole and the BIG PICTURE. Hard to not have tunnel vision while consumed by hate. I get it, we always need someone to blame. I don’t t debate this team comes without criticism. Trading for JBJ was pretty dumb, but it’s undeniable that this team caught the injury bug worse than any other MLB team, if you don’t think key injuries have had an affect then I suppose you believe just any pitcher can replace Chris Sale, or a jar of peanuts could have replaced KIkE in center, because injuries don’t have an effect on a team…that’s just a silly little excuse.

It’s not an excuse it’s a reality. The Sox had over $100 million per annum on the DL. More than any other team in MLB. Blame that on whoever you want, but no one can deny that the Sox have had worse injury luck than any other team this year. FWIW the Sox wouldn’t be last in any other division in MLB.

Almost the same exact team was two wins away from a WS last year. That ALCS caliber team got decimated by injuries this year. If the Sox had key players not injured, do we think they’d still be in the cellar? Or do we think we’d have a wild card spot right? I’d bet on the later.

Welll, 2020 changed a lot. It turned this team into a team that mandated a payroll reset. That's what Bloom was brought in to do. Get under the cap and rebuild the farm.

But, John Henry was still the owner then right?\ EDIT: Did you just unknowingly and inadvertently defend Bloom for this albatross of a team? I think weeeeeee diiiiiiid.

Looks like JH has invest more moeny in this team than 27 out of 32 owners. I think that's a guy who's trying to win.

I think the question would be, WHERE are they signing him to play. You need 180 guys in your organization, and that doesn't include IL and unassigned players.

For the most part, every single free agent who is signed is going to the highest bidder. That means every time you sign a guy to play CF, RF, SS, P, RP, are wherever you're paying more for him than any other team who tried to sign that guy. That number is almost NEVER going to line up with what most fans want to pay for that player. There seems to be a disconnect here at times where fans often have this duality of wanting to sign quality free agents to improve the team but want them to sign for what is likely going to be below their market value.