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Relief pitchers are always a crapshoot, besides the best of the best. Robles was acquired for Schraffts who is currently laying eggs in AA. Robles was also pretty good for the Sox down the stretch last year including the playoffs. He served his purpose……perhaps a little too long.

The other teams who are already much better than us are also getting better. The season is lost, time to build for next year. I’d be fine if the Sox were buyers if they would go after players with multiple years of control. That’s fine, but this is not the year to be buying rentals.

Why would we trade for a rental 1B in a year we have almost no shot of winning the WS? Why waste assets that could be spent plugging holes at SP and OF? especially with Casas coming to town. Mancini would be the ideal move if the Sox had a much better July.

Valdez is #12 on BAs list. Definitely the better prospect of the deal.

Maybe Phem goes to LF, they try Verdugo back in Center, and the team dumps JBJ next. As horrible as JBJ is someone would give something for a replacement CF for the PS, even if it’s just eating some of the money.

I fully expect the Red Sox to fix things and turn the team around next year. We can argue all day in what that entails. Firing bloom? Trusting blooms process? Whatever. But if you’re upset at selling off expiring contracts then you’d have been the people who died on the titanic. Wake up and smell the coffee.

He’s also a FA at years end and the team isn’t going anywhere this year so who cares? You can always sign him back, or even upgrade the position and sign Wilson Contreras in the off-season.

Someone has to DH and back up the outfield when the trade JDM

It’s insane what this guy will complain about. I’m convinced if JDM was out of the lineup he’d be all hot and bothered by that saying that he should be on display to increase his trade value. Some people just like to complain, or maybe cry who knows. I suspect his keyboard is lubricated with salty tears.

What’s your point? Oh yeah you dont have one, you just throw insults in place of making an actual point. Surprise surprise!!!!

Lol, so is it standard to display trade assets or have them ride the bench? What do other GMs do? I didn’t ask what armchair GM Stork would do but rather what other MLB general managers do? I’ll wait…..

He’s not defending the trade, he’s merely pointing out that Hunter Renfroe on this team doesn’t change its reality that they’re flawed and not a playoff team right now. You keep on changing the argument to fit your little temper tantrum. We get it, bloom make bad trade

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At this point you’re just complaining about everything and anything to complain about everything and anything. It’s pretty standard to put players on the trading block on display, and when they perform their stock can go up. Has JDMs value gone up today? It certainly hasn’t gone down.

Now that’s ultimately cherry picking, and narrowing in my argument. That’s a months worth of baseball, great teams get off to poor starts all the time. Sox started to play excellent in June before they got hit with the injury bug. So yes, you can blame it on injuries partially, but be fair to my OP in which I also credited the teams performance to player underperformance. Aside from Devers, I believe every regular is having a career worse or at least a below average career year. But still, that team got hot before the injuries started piling up and they became an AAA team. That’s been the season so far in a nutshell

JD has a .813 OPS this year, that’s well above average, he’s still a good hitter. Yes, not as elite in years past but there’s probably a lot of teams that believe he will be at least the .800 guy down the stretch with a chance of getting hot. That’s a sought after commodity at the deadline, not going to fetch a teams top prospect but there are going to be teams willing to give up some talent for that.

Those are just the facts

At what point is something excuses or reasons? Which is fair? The Sox have been playing games and fielding teams where they have more guys who started the year in AAA and less guys who are MLBers. All teams deal with injuries, and the better systems have depth, or can trade to fill in the gaps, but almost no one can account for losing as much as the Sox have. Is that Blooms fault? Or JH or Cora’s? IDK, maybe, that’s not what I’m here for. But let’s try to imagine for second this team with a reasonable bill of health right now. That team probably commands the first WC spot right now. Anyones AAA team would get crushed against MLB teams

That’s also a great argument for how bad this team would still be even if they kept him.

I suspect he gets challenged at some point and has to make an adjustment, and that may take some time. I suspect his development will slow down at some point, and don’t think he’s an option to this team until 2025 for that reason (maybe mid season 2024). The thing I like about Rafeala, is he has a high floor, I think it’s very plausible he doesn’t make anything more than modest adjustments but he becomes a super utility player. Not the sexiest profile, but you need those guys on your roster too.

If you’re odds of winning the World Series are .1% you at least sell expiring contracts

I think it’s important to put things into perspective as well. This is effectively Blooms 3rd season with the Sox. 2020 - he walked into a train wreck, even if they kept Price they were down 3 starting pitchers with no depth. They were also starring down a 1/3 of a season that wasn’t even guaranteed to have a post season so I think all and every GM in baseball would have sold off assets in that position. 2021 - the depth he added largely contributed to a team that was two wins away from a WS. We can debate this all day, how much of the team was his and how lucky they were (all valid points) but I’d also like to point out that as the naysayers say he’s the GM and responsible for the product on the field. If that’s true in bad times it’s also true in the good times. 2022 - it gets a little hard to defend Bloom here, but people are acting like his entire track record is horrible because if one bad season. The Mookie trade didn’t cause 1/2 the team to underperform and over $100 million per annum in assets to go on the DL. You read that right, the Sox have over $100 million In per annual money sitting on the sidelines right now. The Sox have three rookies in their rotation right now and there best hitter on the DL, add in a power outage from Bogaerts, regression from Dalbec and they’ve dug a hole that would be too big for anyone to overcome. It’s not an excuse, it’s just a reality. Bloom didn’t put Sale and 1/2 the team on the DL. He has more payroll flexibility, and a much deeper farm to pull and trade from heading into 2023, I fully expect this team to recover, and I’d they don’t I might be ready to jump on the fire Bloom bandwagon, but right now it’s premature and IMO very shortsighted. It’s a projection of one’s own despair of their favorite team being bad. It’s what it’s I suppose.

Lol, I don’t even know why Im lowering myself here but I’ll bite. Duran is the 3rd MAYBE 2nd guy in a 3-4 prospect package to get you an ACE last spring, now maybe he’s the 4th guy. Let’s go by real world examples and not sports talk. Talk is easy, talk is cheap. When did a guy of Durans prospect ranking every headline a trade for a 1A starting pitcher? I gave you a specific real world example of a pitcher the likes of your desired caliber commanding a MUCH higher cost, I expect the same in return. Again…..I’ll wait but not expecting much.

Just another example of why BTV is garbage. Well not completely garbage, but garbage.

Stork. “By all accounts Duran gets you a 1A pitcher” That’s the biggest made up load of garbage I’ve ever heard. Here’s a challenge, fine ONE account, just one where Duran could have landed you an ACE? The Sox traded 4 legit prospects to land Sale. Two of them being ranked much higher than Duran and one of them being ranked #1 overall. That would be Kopech and Moncada. I checked my work…..now show me yours.