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7/28 Cleveland @ SOX 7:10PM ET
notin replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
The Giants (14), Padres (12), Mets (6) and Rays (4) are not exactly watching their DHs launch HR after HR as they fight for postseason spots. The Mets did acquire Dan Vogelbach a couple weeks back, but JD is a definite improvement… -
If Barnes had been able to recover from a 10 IP stretch that ended 2021, how would a bullpen of All Star Form Barnes, Houck, Whitlock, Taylor, Brasier, Sawamura, Davis, Strahm, Diekman strike you?
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Clearly you’ve never seen that play…
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And then Perez’ inevitable second half collapse would have made us regret that decision…
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I heard buzz the Sox were only interested in Khalil Lee because they wanted to flip h to the Mets, who apparently lusted after him like Pepe LePew after a black cat with graffiti on it….
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I do think at best he’s only the second best of the Closing Tanners. Regardless of last night, he’s a bullpen arm. If you get someone better to close over him, fine. But he’s not a starter and he is someone I want influencing multiple games per week…
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Except I was being silly…
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Even Bogaerts?
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I have no love for Montas. He knows why. I’m thinking mild selling along side buying for 2023…
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Thinking the Sox need to do some buying. The following SP are all reportedly available and more desirable than Eovaldi Luis Castillo Pablo Lopez Jose Urquidy Zac Plesac Aaron Civale All are controlled for 2023, a year in which the Sox rotation would look to have: Chris Sale James Paxton Josh Winckowski Kutter Crawford ??? One ? as of today, and Paxton is not exactly Mr. Durability. And of course, Sale is only averaging 16IP per season on his new contract. At least one more SP is essential. And locking up Devers and/or Bogaerts will only negatively impact the available cash for a free agent acquisition…
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2020 was a 60 game season. A lot of players had inflated or deflated stats. His 2021-2022 ISO is basically the same, so his drop in SLG is based on fewer singles. He’s hitting fewer line drives, but in that lineup he’s being pitched around…
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I’m thinking $125/5 but I think it will take $150/6. It’s hard to say because Camp Bogaerts has not released any figures…
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How involved do people think these “plans” are? I thought last off-season, the OF plan was “upgrade the defense.” Was it more than that in anyone’s eyes?
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That doesn’t mean he can’t Unless you’re using “can’t” to mean “not allowed to” whereas I’m assuming it to mean “not physically able to”…
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Can I get Eovaldi’s money? Heck I’ll settle for Rich Hill’s…
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And they haven’t won a title since…
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I am back to considering Duran a trade chip. He won’t get Soto, but a Duran-Civale deal would make me happier…
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Cleveland will reportedly listen on Plesac and Civale, both of whom are better options than Eovaldi. But they presumably will also be more difficult to acquire. Per BTV, Civale and Plesac combined have the same surplus value as Jarren Duran. This actually isn’t so surprising as both starters are entering arbitration eligibility and going to get more expensive, whereas Duran will continue to both flyballs rather cheaply for a couple more years. Obviously Cleveland isn’t making this trade, but there may be framework involving Duran and one of these SPs…
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Jacko only acknowledges two strategies for non-Yankee teams. “All in” where you empty the farm for a grandiose postseason run, and “complete tear down” where you deal away any and every marketable asset in order to build for the long term future. Teams rarely if ever do either one…
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They also gain fans every year. Keeping or losing Bogaerts isn’t the life or death of the franchise decision a lot of people are making it out to be…
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No. Keep Bogaerts. Re-open negotiations. He might go for a 5 year $125 mill deal, which is really just a 2 year extension (albeit a pricey one at $65mill). Deal Eovaldi, JD and Hill and/or Wacha. And any reliever not named Houck or Whitlock should be available. Schreiber should be expensive so if someone wants to pay up for him, it’s worth considering. The rest, especially Barnes and Diekman, just take whatever…
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His UZR is also up.
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And if he’d looked at Bogaerts’ 3.9 fWAR, it was obvious whose having the better year. But his devil’s advocacy centered around HRs and RBI…
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LOL Are you pretending the “take top offer no matter what” list is about anything more than replacing frustratingplayets with other frustrating players? Exactly what elite prospects do you think Hill and Strahm will return? If the Sox were to actually rebuild, Schreiber is an actual worthwhile trade piece. Bullpen needs are rampant and with fewer sellers he might be the best available name. That he’s clearly having the best year doesn’t hurt. But if you’re giving up 2023, why keep Schreiber? He is having a career year, better than any since A ball. He’s 29, so not likely part of a rebuild. So other than he’s not frustrating today, why keep him? You have younger players than him (and Refsnyder) like Irdero and Dalbec that you’re ready to throw in the towel on…
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And the guy the Sox signed who would “never be able to replace Bogaerts” had those numbers by the end of June…
